Does anyone with AFIB NOT take blood thinners?

Posted by yorlik @yorlik, Thu, Feb 14 7:48am

cow aorta valve replacement 11/2018. Afib started 2 days after; stayed 1 month then gone – until now. day 4 of off an on afib now. I do NOT want to be put back on blood thinner! Heading to ER now but will watch for replies here… thanks.

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@sal70

I took Xarelto for 6 mo after ablation doe. After 6 mo due to muscle pain, severe, the doctor installed a Linc in my chest (outpatient) to monitor for afib. So far no problems. Works well and no meds!!!!

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Cool!

https://www.medtronic.com/us-en/patients/treatments-therapies/heart-monitors/our-monitors/reveal-linq-icm.html

I suppose it is hard for many people to tell they are in Afib or not. I do not see why a monitor should be required as I believe I can tell when it starts and stops. Any easy confirmation is checking pulse @ wrist for the non steady rythm AND watch my heart beat on my phone (Samsung – has heart monitor built in – same red light detect hospital uses for heart monitor).

@yorlik

OK, But how do you know you have not had another bout?

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I guess if it was a brief one I could have and don't know it. But my heart beats slower than it ever has with the metoprolol and ive had some skipped beats but nothing like what I had that first time.

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@jlbyrd975

I guess if it was a brief one I could have and don't know it. But my heart beats slower than it ever has with the metoprolol and ive had some skipped beats but nothing like what I had that first time.

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Good point! If one has a short afib then maybe don't know it… So question for experts: HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR A harmful CLOT TO DEVELOP? If we have a SHORT (10 minute? 1 hour? 4 hour?) bout once every 3 weeks, do we NEED a blood thinner? If harmful clot takes 2 days to develop, then these short afib sessions are ok and do not require blood thinners? If not replies, I think I will make THIS a new topic…

@sal70

I took Xarelto for 6 mo after ablation doe. After 6 mo due to muscle pain, severe, the doctor installed a Linc in my chest (outpatient) to monitor for afib. So far no problems. Works well and no meds!!!!

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What is a Linc?

@yorlik

OK, But how do you know you have not had another bout?

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The link implanted in my chest(outpatient procedure) has a monitor right By the bed and it monitors 24 seven. I was told sometimes you can have a fib and not be aware of it. So this monitors me. If I’m away from home I have a device I carry in my purse, looks like a small small cell phone, and it is to be held to your chest if you think you’re in a fib and it monitors you then. I have had it for a month and no signs yet. The device alerts doctors as well.

sal70, thanks for the reply. So now that you have that monitor, you have been off blood thinners for a long time… So the plan would seem to be if the monitor alerts the Dr you begin AFIB, they will "do something."

My question is: what is their "do something" plan? have they shared that with you?

– If they see 2 minutes of AFIB, will they call you and say get to ER right away?
– Will they call you and say get to drug store and pick up Xarelto ASAP and begin taking it?
– will they call you next Thursday and say make an appointment with your cardiologist at your convenience?

I have asked "how long does it take for a dangerous blood clot to develop after AFIB begins?" I have heard no replies. Seems to me these monitors cannot get INSTANT blood thinners into our bodies when a bout of AFIB starts unexpectedly…

So if Dr.s are happy with MONITORS like this to tell them AFIB is happening and I ASSUME contact you and say make a Dr.s appointment next week, that those of us with OCCASIONAL AFIB should be able to stop taking this $ 500/mo blood thinner and resume only when the occasional AFIB kicks in!

Meanwhile my lifestyle is hampered with worry of cutting myself, knowing for the next 3 months I don't have an AFIB attack! BeRGRSD##@!!$%%#!!

What do ya'll think?

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@yorlik

Good point! If one has a short afib then maybe don't know it… So question for experts: HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR A harmful CLOT TO DEVELOP? If we have a SHORT (10 minute? 1 hour? 4 hour?) bout once every 3 weeks, do we NEED a blood thinner? If harmful clot takes 2 days to develop, then these short afib sessions are ok and do not require blood thinners? If not replies, I think I will make THIS a new topic…

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I have often wondered the same things. Hope someone answers you.

Any one?

@yorlik

Good point! If one has a short afib then maybe don't know it… So question for experts: HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR A harmful CLOT TO DEVELOP? If we have a SHORT (10 minute? 1 hour? 4 hour?) bout once every 3 weeks, do we NEED a blood thinner? If harmful clot takes 2 days to develop, then these short afib sessions are ok and do not require blood thinners? If not replies, I think I will make THIS a new topic…

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I was recently dx with A fib and the questions you present are the same as mine…

Perhaps no one knows how long these expensive blood thinners take to begin thinning blood? Scary thought…

I will start a new post on this subject…

@yorlik

Perhaps no one knows how long these expensive blood thinners take to begin thinning blood? Scary thought…

I will start a new post on this subject…

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……re blood thinners, if you google “How long does it take for a blood thinner to work”, you will have enough information to keep you reading for a long time….not saying it will make a decision for you….but does provide knowledge about drug actions and so forth. Like you, I don’t want to be on the medication unless it is a life saving issue. I am also trying to get enough information to make the decision.

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