CBD Oil

Posted by suemer @suemer, Sep 11, 2018

Has anyone tried this for pain? My daughter-in-law is waiting for steroid injections as she has 2 buldging disks in her back and a torn ligament. Her doctors prescribed Tylenol and Tylenol 3. Did not work. CBD Oil has made a difference. She swears by it! Anyone else tried it?

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@tikigod18

"At low doses, kratom acts as a stimulant, making users feel more energetic. At higher doses, it reduces pain and may bring on euphoria. At very high doses, it acts as a sedative, making users quiet and perhaps sleepy. Some people who practice Asian traditional medicine consider kratom to be a substitute for opium." HOGWASH. TOTALLY wrong. I have NEVER felt euphoria, never felt stimulated, nor felt like I was using "opium".....this person who wrote this has no idea about Kratom and is trying to keep a good, cheap pain reliever from the consumer, so pharma companies can continue to rake in the $$.

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titgod18: You have figured out that we can't just assume the government is there to protect the general population. Major industries have powerful voices, more motivating to congress than the general public. They need campaign contributions and exotic vacation trips. I have been a victim of our governments purposefully ignoring the health dangers of what is sold to the public. Is it a conspiracy by the industries selling it using their lobby groups to manipulate congress. Yes there is no doubt that this takes place. Many of the chemicals allowed in our clothing, furniture, grooming products, cleaning products and so on have been banned in many European countries for years. Our government allows what they call, "tolerable" amount of poison. This is based on the fact that only 5% or less of the population will be affected by it or so they say. In reality it's based on the industries that want to continue selling it. In my case I am always the 1% that has side effects. So I have learned to do my own research on what goes in and onto my body. With the internet we have the information we need to become informed. Many aspects of my health are dramatically improved now that these toxins have been removed.
My knee pain issue is purely based on my physical structure. I can't blame the government for this pain like I can for all the allergies I developed, but I am aware that I can't count on them for the best way to manage the pain.
You have looked into a medication that the government has not approved. As I have pointed out just because it is approved doesn't mean it's safe. You are deciding for yourself- not being influenced by Bayer, Dow Chemical Company, Reynolds Tobacco, or a liqueur lobby about what is safe. None of you in this blogging group would be taking Kratom unless there was a serious need. If as a byproduct of taking this drug you may have the side effect of euphoria or feeling more energised, that side effect would be preferred to me over the physical consequences from most legal drugs. Heck, alcohol is a legal drug many use to self medicate, many find it relaxes them and it has many documented side effects. Tobacco is a a legal drug many find it temporarily gives them pleasurable feelings and it is no doubt legal poison. Nsaids which worked amazingly well in blocking my pain, have seriously affected my blood pressure and dangerous for me to continue to take and legal. I know that life with constant pain forces us to search for relief. I know first hand the meaning of unbearable pain which was based on my allergies which are under control, Right now my issues in my knees are just tolerable, the pain level is not to the point that I will experiment with Kratom, yet I believe in a year or 2 I will be ready and thank you for making me aware of this option. I have to think "outside the box" and not count on our government to think for me.

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@gardeningjunkie

titgod18: You have figured out that we can't just assume the government is there to protect the general population. Major industries have powerful voices, more motivating to congress than the general public. They need campaign contributions and exotic vacation trips. I have been a victim of our governments purposefully ignoring the health dangers of what is sold to the public. Is it a conspiracy by the industries selling it using their lobby groups to manipulate congress. Yes there is no doubt that this takes place. Many of the chemicals allowed in our clothing, furniture, grooming products, cleaning products and so on have been banned in many European countries for years. Our government allows what they call, "tolerable" amount of poison. This is based on the fact that only 5% or less of the population will be affected by it or so they say. In reality it's based on the industries that want to continue selling it. In my case I am always the 1% that has side effects. So I have learned to do my own research on what goes in and onto my body. With the internet we have the information we need to become informed. Many aspects of my health are dramatically improved now that these toxins have been removed.
My knee pain issue is purely based on my physical structure. I can't blame the government for this pain like I can for all the allergies I developed, but I am aware that I can't count on them for the best way to manage the pain.
You have looked into a medication that the government has not approved. As I have pointed out just because it is approved doesn't mean it's safe. You are deciding for yourself- not being influenced by Bayer, Dow Chemical Company, Reynolds Tobacco, or a liqueur lobby about what is safe. None of you in this blogging group would be taking Kratom unless there was a serious need. If as a byproduct of taking this drug you may have the side effect of euphoria or feeling more energised, that side effect would be preferred to me over the physical consequences from most legal drugs. Heck, alcohol is a legal drug many use to self medicate, many find it relaxes them and it has many documented side effects. Tobacco is a a legal drug many find it temporarily gives them pleasurable feelings and it is no doubt legal poison. Nsaids which worked amazingly well in blocking my pain, have seriously affected my blood pressure and dangerous for me to continue to take and legal. I know that life with constant pain forces us to search for relief. I know first hand the meaning of unbearable pain which was based on my allergies which are under control, Right now my issues in my knees are just tolerable, the pain level is not to the point that I will experiment with Kratom, yet I believe in a year or 2 I will be ready and thank you for making me aware of this option. I have to think "outside the box" and not count on our government to think for me.

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couldn't have said it better. I am almost 69, and can either sit home in pain and cry, lay on a railroad track, (which I actually thought about) or consume a plant that will NEVER get FDA approval because no one can make a profit on it. I use it carefully, know where I buy it, know the quality since I use the same vendors, and have done hundreds of hours of research on Kratom.

I know MANY people who were addicted to opiates, mostly accidentally due to free flowing prescriptions handed out for everything that hurt, who are no longer taking opiates due to Kratom. Does it affect the pain center of your brain? Sure. Am I risking something unknown by using it? Sure. But do smokers, drinkers, obese people also take health risks? Absolutely. I do not drink, smoke, am 108 lbs. and workout 3-4 times a week. I can do that because my pain is REDUCED, not completely eliminated. But pain reduction can make life worth living, not just existing.

I will continue to take the risk, and the Kratom Association has so many members now that they have become a powerful lobby in Washington. We shall see how it all plays out.

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@tikigod18

couldn't have said it better. I am almost 69, and can either sit home in pain and cry, lay on a railroad track, (which I actually thought about) or consume a plant that will NEVER get FDA approval because no one can make a profit on it. I use it carefully, know where I buy it, know the quality since I use the same vendors, and have done hundreds of hours of research on Kratom.

I know MANY people who were addicted to opiates, mostly accidentally due to free flowing prescriptions handed out for everything that hurt, who are no longer taking opiates due to Kratom. Does it affect the pain center of your brain? Sure. Am I risking something unknown by using it? Sure. But do smokers, drinkers, obese people also take health risks? Absolutely. I do not drink, smoke, am 108 lbs. and workout 3-4 times a week. I can do that because my pain is REDUCED, not completely eliminated. But pain reduction can make life worth living, not just existing.

I will continue to take the risk, and the Kratom Association has so many members now that they have become a powerful lobby in Washington. We shall see how it all plays out.

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I truly understand your need to get pain relief. My long nights of laying it bed, trying to figure out the least painful and yet cleanest (no blood for my husband to clean up)method to kill myself have been over for a year. I believe you outdid me thinking about laying on a train track. I have a right to get a chuckle at your courage and a very good idea yet that is one method I don't believe I could have followed though with. I have been in your shoes, laying in bed and waiting for morning and not wanting another day. As I have shared before I would have sold my soul to the devil to get just 15 minutes of being pain free. I had lost my memory of what that felt like. I am very glad you have diminished your pain and found joy again. What a blessing this Kratom is for you and may be for me someday. I do find it interesting that there are so many using it, as I had never even heard of it.

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@robinsonbeth

I recently took myself off of prescription meds( gavepentins) not cool, definitely withdrawal...so I've been using CBD oil....it most definitely helps w anxiety and restless leg craps at night....But I'm interested in Kratom as well...?

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Have used kratom, bone on bone hip, it works, lifts mood enough to complete chores, better than Tylenol for pain, CBD did not help me so perhaps each person responds differently, I have No trust in FDA, wish I knew what vendors to trust for Kratom

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@marthaellen

Have used kratom, bone on bone hip, it works, lifts mood enough to complete chores, better than Tylenol for pain, CBD did not help me so perhaps each person responds differently, I have No trust in FDA, wish I knew what vendors to trust for Kratom

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Sorry, forgot to say in my post about Kratom, when I first began taking the powder, and had no idea how much to take, I did double the amount, after about 15 minutes of waiting for effect, and Vomited it all up, which is the advice I was given in warning, for taking "too much". What that says to me is there is mechanism for avoiding "overdose", natural protection.

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@marthaellen: Yes indeed. I would caution ANYONE to do a LOT of research before you use it. Again many of the Facebook groups have a LOT of people who are willing to provide assistance, as will many vendors. Always better to start with 1 gram or 2, and move up, rather than to start large. It tastes so bad, I can't imagine vomiting it....UGH

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@tikigod18

@marthaellen: Yes indeed. I would caution ANYONE to do a LOT of research before you use it. Again many of the Facebook groups have a LOT of people who are willing to provide assistance, as will many vendors. Always better to start with 1 gram or 2, and move up, rather than to start large. It tastes so bad, I can't imagine vomiting it....UGH

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Re: Kratom taste. Another reason for ignoring all the negative hype, it does taste pretty bad, like kelp powder, no one takes it without some preparation, and trepidation, not a "kid friendly" item, but No denying many people have been helped, some even clarifying further, that Kratom saved their lives. thanks Martha

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@marthaellen: Yes, indeed, it saved mine. There were many days when I not only had the suicide thought but the plan.

The plan was to lay on a RR track. I am small, thin, and would not even cause a blip as the train ended my life, nor would passengers be hurt, so, yes, it saved my life, but not without a lot of research, work, and effort.

I now workout with SOME pain, can manage my house, my yard care, laundry, shopping, etc., use pain patches frequently, do a lot of stretching, etc. but can live a full and fairly happy life. Some days are worse than others, but never a day anymore where I want to die.

It is not for kids. Not enough studies, nor will there be since it benefits no pharmaceutical company or lobby other than the AKA which is funded by people like me who give small donations. I am almost 69, so I am willing to take some risk of "long term effects" to have splendid days and not be a burden to my children.

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I am reposting my response in part here - "I have not found that CBD oil is much help at all, at least in a dosage that I can afford – which is the real problem with it as a real help to anyone in my view." To elaborate, for chronic pain that I know, 5 mg. hardly touches it, which is expensive enough. Buying locally from a shop will cost you nearly $100 or more for a more powerful CBD dose. Yes, I can buy it online for less, but the cost is still prohibitive - not even considering that CBD is still not legal in some states for some. A solution needs to be effective and affordable.

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@marthaellen

Re: Kratom taste. Another reason for ignoring all the negative hype, it does taste pretty bad, like kelp powder, no one takes it without some preparation, and trepidation, not a "kid friendly" item, but No denying many people have been helped, some even clarifying further, that Kratom saved their lives. thanks Martha

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I noticed that earlier this year, the news media had a good time running kratom down, alongside the feds desire to squelch anyone's desire for it. When suppliers were having issues with safety earlier this year, we had a "public health crisis". Personally, I'm uncertain whether it is effective and safe for chronic pain or not. I knew nothing about kratom until the "public health crisis".

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