CBD Oil

Posted by suemer @suemer, Sep 11, 2018

Has anyone tried this for pain? My daughter-in-law is waiting for steroid injections as she has 2 buldging disks in her back and a torn ligament. Her doctors prescribed Tylenol and Tylenol 3. Did not work. CBD Oil has made a difference. She swears by it! Anyone else tried it?

@lioness

@gardenjunkie. You are so right I try to use naturel cleaners mainly vinegar ,baking soda ,salt when our son was born right away we found he was allergic to dyes ,oerservtives they put in food so we put in Garden and I canned everything I still can something s Im 75 .

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How is your son doing today? Did he develop more allergies as he grew up? I understand changing our lifestyle to help a helpless child. Unlike your son's chemical allergies, my youngest had such severe food allergies the only thing he could safely eat from about 6 months of age for several years was meat or chicken, pure protein. I gave him vitamins but feared his growth would be stunted. Of course I would try to add other foods like rice and vegetables and gradually he improved, but with serious relapses. They didn't call it allergies then, they told me he didn't make digestive juices to digest food other than protein. The doctors also told me most kids would outgrown this in time. Of course your sons chemical allergies will only get worse with each exposure, his allergies are chronic like mine. I feared my son would never be able to go to school because of his explosive diarrhea. Below the age of 3 if eating the wrong foods, diarrhea every 15 minutes. My husband would say we should have bought stock in the company that made Desitin bottom ointment as we bought a jar every week because of his issues and must have made them rich. Yet at age 4 he began improving and by school age was in good shape, not perfect but he could control his bowels 99% of the time. He grew to be 6'3", high school championship water polo goalie with a full tuition scholarship to a CA university. Still no dairy today, but at age 45, other than greater than average gas issues if he cheats on food he is fine. He has blessed me with 5 grandchildren! I'm writing this to encourage other food allergy suffers that they can lead a normal life if they work at it. Believe me everything I gave him was made from scratch!

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@gardeningjunkie

How is your son doing today? Did he develop more allergies as he grew up? I understand changing our lifestyle to help a helpless child. Unlike your son's chemical allergies, my youngest had such severe food allergies the only thing he could safely eat from about 6 months of age for several years was meat or chicken, pure protein. I gave him vitamins but feared his growth would be stunted. Of course I would try to add other foods like rice and vegetables and gradually he improved, but with serious relapses. They didn't call it allergies then, they told me he didn't make digestive juices to digest food other than protein. The doctors also told me most kids would outgrown this in time. Of course your sons chemical allergies will only get worse with each exposure, his allergies are chronic like mine. I feared my son would never be able to go to school because of his explosive diarrhea. Below the age of 3 if eating the wrong foods, diarrhea every 15 minutes. My husband would say we should have bought stock in the company that made Desitin bottom ointment as we bought a jar every week because of his issues and must have made them rich. Yet at age 4 he began improving and by school age was in good shape, not perfect but he could control his bowels 99% of the time. He grew to be 6'3", high school championship water polo goalie with a full tuition scholarship to a CA university. Still no dairy today, but at age 45, other than greater than average gas issues if he cheats on food he is fine. He has blessed me with 5 grandchildren! I'm writing this to encourage other food allergy suffers that they can lead a normal life if they work at it. Believe me everything I gave him was made from scratch!

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Gardeningjunkie hi glad your son outgrew them Mine did too,to a certain extent the dyes are still with him ,just recently he had a piece of red candy never thinking ,his wife had to take him to Dr for Benedryl shot but now he watches and is a vegetarian she cooks from scratch, as your son, Howie is now Director of Development at Cal State so Im proud of him as I know you are of your son.What Mothers go through, right

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@jennie74

How to sensibly buy LEGAL cbd oil? Because I got a letter saying customs has confiscated my package two times already and I’m pissed.

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Where did you order it from? State?

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@tikigod18

Have you tried Kratom? I was on opiates for years due to degenerative disc issues. Then boom, no more. I was NOT paying for rehab, for methadone, for money grubbing counselors that have a huge recidivism rate because they just don't get it. Kratom allowed me to withdraw with minor annoyance and discomfort. I now feel SO PROUD that I did it myself, with the help of a natural plant that the FDA is trying to hard to ban. Pharmaceutical companies, rehab centers, all will lose customers if people begin to take charge of their lives THEMSELVES. Facebook has about 8 different Kraton groups that are closed, meaning private from everyone but the group. You can join one and learn so much about taking control of your pain.

Kratom relieves pain, period. CBD oil does help, but not enough. I am a wimp about chronic pain!

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I recently took myself off of prescription meds( gavepentins) not cool, definitely withdrawal…so I've been using CBD oil….it most definitely helps w anxiety and restless leg craps at night….But I'm interested in Kratom as well…?

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IF you are interested in Kratom, join some Facebook groups. They are FULL of information, suggestions, etc. There is even a group Ladies of Kratom, and Kratom for Dummies:) There is sooo much to know, but it is worth it. The red strains are best for pain, but tons of vendors and different types of Reds. Any questions, I am always available to ask. Don't always catch everything right away, but I will always answer. CBD oil is very limited IMO on how much it can do.

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Like all supplements, medications, or natural remedies, Kratom should be taken with caution as well. Here is some additional information on what is and isn't know about kratom if you are considering this as a potential choice, https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/consumer-health/in-depth/kratom/art-20402171.

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Of course that is posted by the Mayo Clinic. Doctors, pharmaceutical companies, rehab centers, methadone centers are all losing patients because they are listening or just wanting to listen to junk science. It is obviously a personal choice, but I choose to be in less or no pain, and opiates are no longer an option. Here is the real science.https://www.americankratom.org/science

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Days when I am not in pain, which are few and far between, I actually don't use Kratom. There IS no addiction, unless you are a stupid kid trying to get high which will fail. You do not get high, you get pain relief. Some people use it for depression and anxiety. I don't even go there; only need it for PAIN. Hard to want to sit in front of a train and wait; then find Kratom and believe I might want to live instead.

IF, in fact, Kratom was so bad and dangerous, does anyone think Jeff Sessions, Scott Gottlieb or others would not ban it IMMEDIATELY? Instead they try to flood news organizations with stories of death due to Kratom. Follow up is that the victim was full of meth, heroin, or cocaine.

The ONLY way you could die from Kratom, is by inhaling and choking on it. Never heard of that of course.

You DO need to buy from a vetted vendor who tests product for salmonella, etc. and documents their tests. Is this all easy? NOPE. But neither is living in pain.

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"At low doses, kratom acts as a stimulant, making users feel more energetic. At higher doses, it reduces pain and may bring on euphoria. At very high doses, it acts as a sedative, making users quiet and perhaps sleepy. Some people who practice Asian traditional medicine consider kratom to be a substitute for opium." HOGWASH. TOTALLY wrong. I have NEVER felt euphoria, never felt stimulated, nor felt like I was using "opium"…..this person who wrote this has no idea about Kratom and is trying to keep a good, cheap pain reliever from the consumer, so pharma companies can continue to rake in the $$.

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What is CBD Oil And purpose to use it

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@tikigod18

Days when I am not in pain, which are few and far between, I actually don't use Kratom. There IS no addiction, unless you are a stupid kid trying to get high which will fail. You do not get high, you get pain relief. Some people use it for depression and anxiety. I don't even go there; only need it for PAIN. Hard to want to sit in front of a train and wait; then find Kratom and believe I might want to live instead.

IF, in fact, Kratom was so bad and dangerous, does anyone think Jeff Sessions, Scott Gottlieb or others would not ban it IMMEDIATELY? Instead they try to flood news organizations with stories of death due to Kratom. Follow up is that the victim was full of meth, heroin, or cocaine.

The ONLY way you could die from Kratom, is by inhaling and choking on it. Never heard of that of course.

You DO need to buy from a vetted vendor who tests product for salmonella, etc. and documents their tests. Is this all easy? NOPE. But neither is living in pain.

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@tikigod18, I am in no way trying to discredit your experience with kratom or how it works for you. Like with all supplements and medications, each person is affected differently, and some people are more likely than others to have addictive personalities. Caution should be used by any individual starting a new medication or supplement and it is wise to inform your medical provider of anything you are taking because of the way medications and supplements affect one-another.

On Connect, members are encouraged to share evidence-based information from reputable sources. This gives members reliable information to do their research and make informed decisions suited to them. Kratom is a natural product that requires more research and is not FDA regulated. Please refer to this post for more information https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/chronic-pain-alternative-treatment/?pg=3#comment-70399

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@tikigod18

"At low doses, kratom acts as a stimulant, making users feel more energetic. At higher doses, it reduces pain and may bring on euphoria. At very high doses, it acts as a sedative, making users quiet and perhaps sleepy. Some people who practice Asian traditional medicine consider kratom to be a substitute for opium." HOGWASH. TOTALLY wrong. I have NEVER felt euphoria, never felt stimulated, nor felt like I was using "opium"…..this person who wrote this has no idea about Kratom and is trying to keep a good, cheap pain reliever from the consumer, so pharma companies can continue to rake in the $$.

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titgod18: You have figured out that we can't just assume the government is there to protect the general population. Major industries have powerful voices, more motivating to congress than the general public. They need campaign contributions and exotic vacation trips. I have been a victim of our governments purposefully ignoring the health dangers of what is sold to the public. Is it a conspiracy by the industries selling it using their lobby groups to manipulate congress. Yes there is no doubt that this takes place. Many of the chemicals allowed in our clothing, furniture, grooming products, cleaning products and so on have been banned in many European countries for years. Our government allows what they call, "tolerable" amount of poison. This is based on the fact that only 5% or less of the population will be affected by it or so they say. In reality it's based on the industries that want to continue selling it. In my case I am always the 1% that has side effects. So I have learned to do my own research on what goes in and onto my body. With the internet we have the information we need to become informed. Many aspects of my health are dramatically improved now that these toxins have been removed.
My knee pain issue is purely based on my physical structure. I can't blame the government for this pain like I can for all the allergies I developed, but I am aware that I can't count on them for the best way to manage the pain.
You have looked into a medication that the government has not approved. As I have pointed out just because it is approved doesn't mean it's safe. You are deciding for yourself- not being influenced by Bayer, Dow Chemical Company, Reynolds Tobacco, or a liqueur lobby about what is safe. None of you in this blogging group would be taking Kratom unless there was a serious need. If as a byproduct of taking this drug you may have the side effect of euphoria or feeling more energised, that side effect would be preferred to me over the physical consequences from most legal drugs. Heck, alcohol is a legal drug many use to self medicate, many find it relaxes them and it has many documented side effects. Tobacco is a a legal drug many find it temporarily gives them pleasurable feelings and it is no doubt legal poison. Nsaids which worked amazingly well in blocking my pain, have seriously affected my blood pressure and dangerous for me to continue to take and legal. I know that life with constant pain forces us to search for relief. I know first hand the meaning of unbearable pain which was based on my allergies which are under control, Right now my issues in my knees are just tolerable, the pain level is not to the point that I will experiment with Kratom, yet I believe in a year or 2 I will be ready and thank you for making me aware of this option. I have to think "outside the box" and not count on our government to think for me.

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@gardeningjunkie

titgod18: You have figured out that we can't just assume the government is there to protect the general population. Major industries have powerful voices, more motivating to congress than the general public. They need campaign contributions and exotic vacation trips. I have been a victim of our governments purposefully ignoring the health dangers of what is sold to the public. Is it a conspiracy by the industries selling it using their lobby groups to manipulate congress. Yes there is no doubt that this takes place. Many of the chemicals allowed in our clothing, furniture, grooming products, cleaning products and so on have been banned in many European countries for years. Our government allows what they call, "tolerable" amount of poison. This is based on the fact that only 5% or less of the population will be affected by it or so they say. In reality it's based on the industries that want to continue selling it. In my case I am always the 1% that has side effects. So I have learned to do my own research on what goes in and onto my body. With the internet we have the information we need to become informed. Many aspects of my health are dramatically improved now that these toxins have been removed.
My knee pain issue is purely based on my physical structure. I can't blame the government for this pain like I can for all the allergies I developed, but I am aware that I can't count on them for the best way to manage the pain.
You have looked into a medication that the government has not approved. As I have pointed out just because it is approved doesn't mean it's safe. You are deciding for yourself- not being influenced by Bayer, Dow Chemical Company, Reynolds Tobacco, or a liqueur lobby about what is safe. None of you in this blogging group would be taking Kratom unless there was a serious need. If as a byproduct of taking this drug you may have the side effect of euphoria or feeling more energised, that side effect would be preferred to me over the physical consequences from most legal drugs. Heck, alcohol is a legal drug many use to self medicate, many find it relaxes them and it has many documented side effects. Tobacco is a a legal drug many find it temporarily gives them pleasurable feelings and it is no doubt legal poison. Nsaids which worked amazingly well in blocking my pain, have seriously affected my blood pressure and dangerous for me to continue to take and legal. I know that life with constant pain forces us to search for relief. I know first hand the meaning of unbearable pain which was based on my allergies which are under control, Right now my issues in my knees are just tolerable, the pain level is not to the point that I will experiment with Kratom, yet I believe in a year or 2 I will be ready and thank you for making me aware of this option. I have to think "outside the box" and not count on our government to think for me.

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couldn't have said it better. I am almost 69, and can either sit home in pain and cry, lay on a railroad track, (which I actually thought about) or consume a plant that will NEVER get FDA approval because no one can make a profit on it. I use it carefully, know where I buy it, know the quality since I use the same vendors, and have done hundreds of hours of research on Kratom.

I know MANY people who were addicted to opiates, mostly accidentally due to free flowing prescriptions handed out for everything that hurt, who are no longer taking opiates due to Kratom. Does it affect the pain center of your brain? Sure. Am I risking something unknown by using it? Sure. But do smokers, drinkers, obese people also take health risks? Absolutely. I do not drink, smoke, am 108 lbs. and workout 3-4 times a week. I can do that because my pain is REDUCED, not completely eliminated. But pain reduction can make life worth living, not just existing.

I will continue to take the risk, and the Kratom Association has so many members now that they have become a powerful lobby in Washington. We shall see how it all plays out.

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@tikigod18

couldn't have said it better. I am almost 69, and can either sit home in pain and cry, lay on a railroad track, (which I actually thought about) or consume a plant that will NEVER get FDA approval because no one can make a profit on it. I use it carefully, know where I buy it, know the quality since I use the same vendors, and have done hundreds of hours of research on Kratom.

I know MANY people who were addicted to opiates, mostly accidentally due to free flowing prescriptions handed out for everything that hurt, who are no longer taking opiates due to Kratom. Does it affect the pain center of your brain? Sure. Am I risking something unknown by using it? Sure. But do smokers, drinkers, obese people also take health risks? Absolutely. I do not drink, smoke, am 108 lbs. and workout 3-4 times a week. I can do that because my pain is REDUCED, not completely eliminated. But pain reduction can make life worth living, not just existing.

I will continue to take the risk, and the Kratom Association has so many members now that they have become a powerful lobby in Washington. We shall see how it all plays out.

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I truly understand your need to get pain relief. My long nights of laying it bed, trying to figure out the least painful and yet cleanest (no blood for my husband to clean up)method to kill myself have been over for a year. I believe you outdid me thinking about laying on a train track. I have a right to get a chuckle at your courage and a very good idea yet that is one method I don't believe I could have followed though with. I have been in your shoes, laying in bed and waiting for morning and not wanting another day. As I have shared before I would have sold my soul to the devil to get just 15 minutes of being pain free. I had lost my memory of what that felt like. I am very glad you have diminished your pain and found joy again. What a blessing this Kratom is for you and may be for me someday. I do find it interesting that there are so many using it, as I had never even heard of it.

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@robinsonbeth

I recently took myself off of prescription meds( gavepentins) not cool, definitely withdrawal…so I've been using CBD oil….it most definitely helps w anxiety and restless leg craps at night….But I'm interested in Kratom as well…?

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Have used kratom, bone on bone hip, it works, lifts mood enough to complete chores, better than Tylenol for pain, CBD did not help me so perhaps each person responds differently, I have No trust in FDA, wish I knew what vendors to trust for Kratom

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