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Kidney stones

Posted by Gary, Alumni Mentor @gman007, Mar 9, 2018

I am usually trying to help folks understand their symptoms, but need some myself now. I have chronic pancreatitis and have had it long enough that the way that pain manifests itself is pretty familiar. I have been experiencing a pain that is about an 8 on the typical 1-10 scale, but is more in my flank and lower than where my pancreas pain is. It is also very tender to the touch and if I move in any way that involves my torso the pain screams at me. I take pretty stri=ong opiates for my pancreatitis, so the pain is not being affected by those meds or if it is, I would be crying without them. Anyone have any thoughts? I already have had a urinalysis and it is not an infection in kidneys, bladder, or urinary tract. I am thinking kidney stone, but have never had the pleasure, so that is simply a guess.

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ella2000 | @ella2000 | Mar 13, 2018

@gman007, I remember my mmm experience with kidney stones like it happened yesterday. For me I remember watching a movie and then suddenly felt ill. I went to lay down and that's when I had symptoms. I was sweating profusely, at times I did not know if I had to use the bathroom or throw up. That was a back and forth deal almost every 5 minutes. The pain was intense. Pain worse than going through labor. I also remember feeling almost in a dazed and so confused. The pain was so sharp and excruciating. I was so taken back and not knowing what was going on after an hour and a half I knew something wasn't right. I got my daughter and her boyfriend and rushed to the ER. I drove. I don't know how I did it. They saw me and said I looked grey in the face. They said kidney stones asap. Ct scan confirmed. I had 2 one on each side both over 7 mm. To me the pain was worse than child birth. The pain is unforgiving and i think this type of pain one would know something isn't right asap. It's no joke. If you are worried go to the ER. Get a scan. I pray that you don't have one. Best of luck

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ella2000 | @ella2000 | Mar 13, 2018
In reply to @kanaazpereira "Hi Gary @gman007, My daughter also has kidney stones – she actually has cystinuria, which is..." + (show)
@kanaazpereira

Hi Gary @gman007,

My daughter also has kidney stones – she actually has cystinuria, which is a genetic disorder, that causes stones made of amino acid (cystine) to form in the kidneys and ureters. She was also diagnosed because she had blood in her urine, and excruciating pain on her side, back, below her ribs. An ultrasound and an abdominal CT scan confirmed the diagnosis. A few years ago she passed one stone, but I remember that it was unbearable – the pain was coming in waves, and we had to take her to the ER to manage the pain.

If you have a kidney stone, you might not notice anything is amiss until the stone moves into your ureter; my daughter's pain often starts suddenly, (she has another stone in her left kidney), and as the stone moves, the location and intensity of pain changes. I agree with Colleen, that an ultrasound or CT scan should be able to detect a stone.

Besides the discussion Colleen noted, here are two other conversations about flank pain in Kidney & Bladder:
– https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/i-am-being-treated-at-mayo-for-membranous-glomerulonephritis-over-the-last/
– https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/flank-pain/

Please let me know if I can help answer any more questions, Gary.

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If the pain passes I doubt it is a kidney stone. The pain is continuous and is unforgiving.

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Colleen Young, Connect Director | @colleenyoung | Mar 13, 2018
In reply to @kanaazpereira "Hi Gary @gman007, My daughter also has kidney stones – she actually has cystinuria, which is..." + (show)
@kanaazpereira

Hi Gary @gman007,

My daughter also has kidney stones – she actually has cystinuria, which is a genetic disorder, that causes stones made of amino acid (cystine) to form in the kidneys and ureters. She was also diagnosed because she had blood in her urine, and excruciating pain on her side, back, below her ribs. An ultrasound and an abdominal CT scan confirmed the diagnosis. A few years ago she passed one stone, but I remember that it was unbearable – the pain was coming in waves, and we had to take her to the ER to manage the pain.

If you have a kidney stone, you might not notice anything is amiss until the stone moves into your ureter; my daughter's pain often starts suddenly, (she has another stone in her left kidney), and as the stone moves, the location and intensity of pain changes. I agree with Colleen, that an ultrasound or CT scan should be able to detect a stone.

Besides the discussion Colleen noted, here are two other conversations about flank pain in Kidney & Bladder:
– https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/i-am-being-treated-at-mayo-for-membranous-glomerulonephritis-over-the-last/
– https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/flank-pain/

Please let me know if I can help answer any more questions, Gary.

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Ella, for me the pain from the kidney stone was not constant. It was only really intense when trying to get through the turns of the ureter. It sounds odd, but with the sensations that I had, I could almost track its progress.

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wendyw | @wendyw | Apr 9, 2018

The pain of kidney stones is known to radiate from loin to groin. My son also gets severe back pain. But pancreatitis is so serious in itself I would want to know either way ASAP.

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jmaclachlan1 | @jmaclachlan1 | Apr 14, 2018

I'm new to this I went to hospital for kidney stone and it moved from my kidney to my ureter Benn bout week and now I am getting sharp pains in lower back that radiate to stomach almost like when it was moving from kidney but it is coming and going could I have infection that is only symptoms I have can u help me and I'm taking flomax

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wendyw | @wendyw | Apr 15, 2018
In reply to @kanaazpereira "Hi Gary @gman007, My daughter also has kidney stones – she actually has cystinuria, which is..." + (show)
@kanaazpereira

Hi Gary @gman007,

My daughter also has kidney stones – she actually has cystinuria, which is a genetic disorder, that causes stones made of amino acid (cystine) to form in the kidneys and ureters. She was also diagnosed because she had blood in her urine, and excruciating pain on her side, back, below her ribs. An ultrasound and an abdominal CT scan confirmed the diagnosis. A few years ago she passed one stone, but I remember that it was unbearable – the pain was coming in waves, and we had to take her to the ER to manage the pain.

If you have a kidney stone, you might not notice anything is amiss until the stone moves into your ureter; my daughter's pain often starts suddenly, (she has another stone in her left kidney), and as the stone moves, the location and intensity of pain changes. I agree with Colleen, that an ultrasound or CT scan should be able to detect a stone.

Besides the discussion Colleen noted, here are two other conversations about flank pain in Kidney & Bladder:
– https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/i-am-being-treated-at-mayo-for-membranous-glomerulonephritis-over-the-last/
– https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/flank-pain/

Please let me know if I can help answer any more questions, Gary.

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The loin to groin pain is very typical of kidney stones

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Jamie Olson | @jamienolson | Apr 15, 2018
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@jmaclachlan1

I'm new to this I went to hospital for kidney stone and it moved from my kidney to my ureter Benn bout week and now I am getting sharp pains in lower back that radiate to stomach almost like when it was moving from kidney but it is coming and going could I have infection that is only symptoms I have can u help me and I'm taking flomax

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Hi @jmaclachlan1, Welcome to the group.

Have you made another appointment with your physician to be tested for infection? How are you have you been dealing with your pain? Have you found anything that helps subside it?

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Kanaaz Pereira, Connect Moderator | @kanaazpereira | Apr 21, 2018

Hi @jmaclachlan1,

I wanted to follow up, and hope you are feeling better?

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caont10 | @caont10 | May 27, 2018

i have had stones for years. i just got out of the hospital for sepsis due to a stone the size of a golf ball. has anyone had surgery? i was told i need it.

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Bill | @waterboy | May 27, 2018

I had adominal surgery at Mayo Clinic, Rochester, on Halloween 2016 for a dumbell shaped stone.... one end in my bladder the other in my prostate.... BOTH ENDS WERE ALMOST 1 IN DIA. I also had a 1 in bladder stone remove during my TURP in 7 5015

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