~Toilet Time~

Posted by Gratia @gratia, Sep 19 2:53pm

Greetings to all- wishing you a peaceful weekend 🤗
Wondering if anyone has experienced this type of scenario… your loved one says they have to go #2 & seem constipated. They keep getting on and off toilet and fixate on the ‘stuck’ situation. They do go, but then they forget they went and this cycle continues for a while. After the toilet drama is over, loved one is happy as a clam and when I ask how she feels. it’s as though it never happened! 😝

Meanwhile, she clogged toilet with too much stuff and then I nearly lost it as I had to plunge it into oblivion- I literally sprung a gasket and got an ocular migraine! I was laughing and crying while plunging furiously and wondering what my life has become🤣 Im sorry if this post is TMI, but I just had to share because there is something hilarious about the scene. Have to keep a sense of humor.
Hoping to bring a moment of levity to someone out there. 🤗❤️

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@barbary Yes, they tried having her take colace regularly, but it caused a problem in the opposite direction. So, she takes it as needed. She has had to go to the ER for an enema because she hadn’t had a bowel movement for six days. She has always had a tendency towards constipation and sometimes the stool softeners work and sometimes they don’t.

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@dedhambeth half a capful of Miralax daily in her morning drink might be worth a try too. That can work when regular stool softeners don't.

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@gratia I don't know if this is even a good suggestion and one by the readers the may sound ludicrous, but in reading your "toilet time" post, I couldn't help but wonder if one of those large plastic inserts the doctor or hospital gives us to fit inside the toilet rim when we take a stool specimen, would be appropriate when she goes to the bathroom. This way, her stool doesn't clog up the toilet, and when she uses toilet paper, she stuffs that in the plastic insert piece along with the poop OR you give her a plastic trash bag to put the toilet paper inside (if she remembers to do it). Then you can dump it however you see fit. It will stop clogging up the toilet. May appear to be an extra step, but plunging away with a migrane becomes many extra steps and a lot of work to toilet overload.
Best, Karla

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@kjc48 What a great idea to try! My husband has clogged up the toilet more than once with his excessive use of toilet paper. He goes through one roll in three days. But he also uses it to blow his nose while he's on the pot but that goes into the toilet too. So far I have just been monitoring how much paper he leaves in the toilet and making sure that it is flushed after every use.

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I'm sure toilet issues are no laughing matter when they are happening. @gratia, thank you for the levity in these messy and real life caregiving realities.

You are not alone. Here are some other toiletting related discussions:
- 2 things, plugging toilet and sitting in bathroom for way too long. https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/2-things-plugging-toilet-and-sitting-in-bathroom-for-way-too-long/
- Forgotten how to use the toilet https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/forgotten-how-to-use-the-toilet/
- Can't find toilet, nighttime wandering https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/cant-find-toilet-nighttime-wandering/
- Pooping and spot checking https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/pooping-and-spot-checking/
- Not Incontinence but bathroom messes and clothes soiling https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/not-incontinence-but-bathroom-messes-and-clothes-soiling/

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I'm sure toilet issues are no laughing matter when they are happening. @gratia, thank you for the levity in these messy and real life caregiving realities.

You are not alone. Here are some other toiletting related discussions:
- 2 things, plugging toilet and sitting in bathroom for way too long. https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/2-things-plugging-toilet-and-sitting-in-bathroom-for-way-too-long/
- Forgotten how to use the toilet https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/forgotten-how-to-use-the-toilet/
- Can't find toilet, nighttime wandering https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/cant-find-toilet-nighttime-wandering/
- Pooping and spot checking https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/pooping-and-spot-checking/
- Not Incontinence but bathroom messes and clothes soiling https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/not-incontinence-but-bathroom-messes-and-clothes-soiling/

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@colleenyoung Hi Colleen, thank you so much for these links. I will check them out. Fortunately, this is not recurring too frequently at the moment, but I’m worried about how it will evolve along with the other dementia processes. It’s such a difficult condition to navigate. This site is a respite in itself. My apologies if I’ve posted too frequently! I feel for everyone here. Having a place to share or vent with one another is very helpful.

Thank you!
🤗❤️

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@dedhambeth
Severe constipation is often followed by massive amounts of loose stool. So a smaller dose of colace every day or just colace stool softener might work.
Will she drink an adequate amount of fluids? about 6-8 (8 glasses) daily No caffeine? Fluids are essential.
Have you tried 6 prunes or a large glass of warm Pune juice?
Linzess 145 mg 1/2 hr before eating is what is recommended for IBS-C and helps a lot.

Ensure a bowel movement occurs daily.

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@gilkesl Metamucil has been tried. It helped some but not a lot. When I stay with them she drinks enough water. Not sure she does regularly. I am only there for a few days a couple of times a month as I live 2 1/2 hours away and I am a teacher. I was there more during the summer and could monitor it more. She is up 2-3 times per night to urinate so the home nurse suggested no water after 6pm. Being up that much is soooo hard on my father. It’s hard on me when I stay there but he is 84 and I am only 60! Prunes and oatmeal are often their breakfast and it does help. The Parkinsonism and the Lewy Body are the culprits. I do not like them. 🩷🩷

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@colleenyoung Hi Colleen, thank you so much for these links. I will check them out. Fortunately, this is not recurring too frequently at the moment, but I’m worried about how it will evolve along with the other dementia processes. It’s such a difficult condition to navigate. This site is a respite in itself. My apologies if I’ve posted too frequently! I feel for everyone here. Having a place to share or vent with one another is very helpful.

Thank you!
🤗❤️

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@gratia
No apologies necessary.
When we are all going through this we absolutely need counsel. If you need to post 5 times a day, do it. If this resource is helping, keep utilizing it and folks will chime in as able.
Keep doing what you're doing in order to manage your challenging situation. We all depend on each other; no worries. 🫂

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My mother has Lewy Body and Parkinsonism. This is the usual at my parents’ home. She is constipated for days. Then she “has to go,” but it takes 4-5 trips to the bathroom for it to actually happen. Each time she needs help
getting out of her chair into her wheelchair, wheeled to the bathroom. Then helped out of her wheelchair, onto the commode over the toilet to make it easier for her to sit and get up. She then needs help with cleaning herself after she finally is able to go. Then reverse this back to her chair. My father keeps a stick outside that he has to use to break up the “deposit” each time so it will flush. Not TMI. It’s real life for a lot of us.

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@dedhambeth My Mom got to the point where she had to go to the bathroom often. It was easier for every body to put the commode chair right next to her bed. That way all she had to do or all you have to do is help her stand up, turn around and sit on the commode. What ever comes out is then emptied into the toilet, broken up if necessary. No wheelchair involved, no plugged toilet. Hope this helps.

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More toilet news. Today my husband leaves the bathroom on one side of the house, pauses briefly in the common area, and then moves to the other bathroom on the otherside of the house. Not sure if he is urinating or other but of course he doesn't want to share what is happening. No memory of this being his 5h or 6th visit to the throne. He also takes a diuretic but that med doesn't usually create this behavior. My head is on a swivel.

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More toilet news. Today my husband leaves the bathroom on one side of the house, pauses briefly in the common area, and then moves to the other bathroom on the otherside of the house. Not sure if he is urinating or other but of course he doesn't want to share what is happening. No memory of this being his 5h or 6th visit to the throne. He also takes a diuretic but that med doesn't usually create this behavior. My head is on a swivel.

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@jenniferkr Jennifer,
Thank you for sharing this personal experience. It’s relatable, and it also made me laugh, because of the oddities of these situations. Thankfully he visits the throne versus other options! 🤗❤️

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