Spinal fusion w/pelvic fixation (T-3-pelvis), having trouble. Ideas?
Had spinal cord damage thoracic T-3 ,4, 5. Also spondylitis, spondylitis, foraminal, osteocytes . All spine issues were taken care of with fusion( 4 rods , 32 screws). Legs just will not work properly. Nerves , muscles not on same page. I can walk but not much else. Leg nerve tests showed nerves strong. My quads feel like half frozen chicken thighs. Hams and quads fighting each other. Front of legs feel like I have catchers gear on. Trying to get back to playing sports. Shins feel like bees under skin. Numb front of legs but not back of legs.
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I echo Karen's response. I am 18 months out and would do it again in a heartbeat T12-S2 but I work at it every day to stretch and strengthen. It simply takes time for full fusion and to get back little by little to your new normal life. I had a set back of my own making with a bicycling accident. Luckily my spine was ok. I can stand in line, stand to cook, walk 4 miles plus, rode my bike 75 miles this week! But it is a journey and step by step. Good luck and reach out for support. I set my house up room to room so I could reach things on my own. Raised my W/D. Pick up sticks in every room and car. Love my $35 swivel seat to use in my car and dining room table from Amazon. I had a stool riser and an secure bed grip and a squirt bottle for water while recouping was really handy. Tamra
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4 Reactions@glassart Thank you! It’s a big fear of mine as well (that the surgery won’t bring the desired result)… let’s that isn’t the case!
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3 Reactions@karenoharmon
Hello Karen, Really well-stated and, as a fellow spinal fusion patient, I totally agree.
Best Wishes!
Nadine
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3 Reactions@karenoharmon
Hi Karen! I have been off this site for a few months because other things going on in life, but I’ve been thinking about you and wondering how you are healing😊
What you said here is absolutely perfect! It says it all.
I am now 20 months postop and finally making good headway on the skin nerve pain. I think the last time I updated you, my physical therapist was starting to break apart the scar tissue and it was helping. She isn’t trained in myofascial release, but doing a lot of similar work as I first learned from @jenniferhunter
The past couple months, she has been working deeper along the incision line where the surgery scar tissue grew, and it is releasing pressure on the nerves across my back. She starts out with ultrasound treatment, and then goes into the muscle/scar work.
So yay! Great news that pants don’t hurt my back and that I can use the back scrub brush in the shower without it hurting. And the numbness is completely gone. And of course, none of it compared to the pain that I had before surgery. All of that is gone and it’s so wonderful to be able to work on the ranch and hike and ride bikes and have a normal life again!
So how are you doing? Are you making progress with your skin nerve pain?
I recently saw a couple people post the same symptoms on a Facebook spine surgery group, and I’ve tried to share my experience with them too. It doesn’t sound like it’s that common, but has more to do with the fact that our bodies grow a lot of scar tissue.
Wishing you the very best!
Sherry
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7 Reactions@sherrym25 It sounds like you’re doing great! I agree that loosening scar tissue helps so much. I work on my own physical issues with scar tissue. I broke my ankle 6 years ago and to keep the joint moving correctly, I need to loosen scars from the surgery. It used to cause my ankle to collapse in pain until I figured out that scar tissue was causing the joint to get tight and compressed together. I work on my neck too to work out muscle tightness and stretch.
I’m glad to hear from you.
Jennifer
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3 Reactions@sherrym25 so great to hear from you!!! You are my goal! It sounds like your life is returning to normal and I so love that for you! Yay for pants – and I'm trusting you are back in your jeans?
I would say that as for movement and mobility, I am right on target. That nerve pain though~. It is so frustrating! My pt and I decided to wait until after I had the next scans before he started the myofascial release. He tried a couple of months ago and I was in tears – and he was afraid of getting hit;-). So, not making the progress I would like. The sensitive area is not quite as large as it was. Certain fabrics, the shower, the back of chairs – even my husband can fire off those nerves in a very unpleasant way. The surgeon and the pt both said that their thought is the lack of muscle and fat contribute to the nerves being closer to the surface. I was mostly a pescatarian prior to surgery and they both encouraged me to add more protein to my diet. I'm not sure if this has helped in reducing the breadth of the sensitivity or was it just time?
I would be curious your thoughts on waiting to work on the tissue, and if anyone else has experience and knowledge. Also, in thinking about pt, I "graduated" if you will, as I had met the goals the surgeon had desired for mobility, and continue to work out on my own most days. Did you go outside the prescribed pt, or is this something that your doctor ordered?
I'm so happy for you and so encouraged by you! Thanks so much for checking in! Blessings, k
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3 Reactions@karenoharmon
Oh Karen, it’s so great to hear from you too!
Please remind me how many months postop you are? Truly, I regret not starting to have my PT break free my scar tissue sooner.
I was healing fast from the surgery and then things went downhill in the opposite direction. My PT told me that scar tissue is critical for healing, but then it can also do the opposite and create issues. The wonderful thing is that it can be fixed. Even if you wait a long time and suffer like we have, it can be fixed by breaking it free.
I will have to look back at my notes but I would say for sure that by the one year point, I wish I would’ve had her digging in deeper along the incision line. You can do a lot of superficial skin rolling, etc. but the root of the problem is the scar tissue that grows from cutting the muscles, etc., to access our spine and put the rods and screws in.
And when I say digging, I only mean using her fingers to push into the muscles to each side of the spine. These were stretched and pulled and cut and that’s where the scar tissue is created. To your question about staying within the guidelines of flexibility, etc., I have been over the top careful about not bending twisting, etc. I hinge at the hips and support myself with a hand on the knee if I need to bend over. It’s about keeping your back straight from your pelvic bone to your shoulders. I am way past the point of needing to worry about the fusion, but I am still cautious although every day I feel a little more relaxed.
Karen, the numbness and painful tingling across the skin on my back only improved after she did a deep tissue kind of massage along the surgery area. She even pushes on certain areas and holds it and you can feel it release. Yes, it hurts and I just do controlled breathing, but oh my goodness every single session shows improvement. It’s not something I can reach back and do myself so I encourage her to break things free while I’m there. It’s not going to hurt the fusion because she’s not doing anything with the rods or or attachment to the spine.
I also have two tennis balls taped together, and I put it on the wall behind me and slowly raise up in my tiptoes and then lower down, pushing against the wall. It really helps to break things free on my own in between my weekly PT sessions. I can send you a picture if that doesn’t make sense.
And yes, I have been back in jeans since late spring!
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Sherry😊
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2 Reactions@jenniferhunter
Thank you, Jennifer! You were the first person who welcomed me to this site a few years ago. I really appreciate your support and glad to hear you’re doing well. 😊
Sherry
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2 Reactions@sassytwo
So great to hear how you are doing, Tamra!
Sherry
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Hi Sherry,
Good to hear from you! And, I am so happy that you are progressing in your recovery so well.🙏
Glad your nerve is issue is much better.
It must feel wonderful to hike and bike ride. Congratulations!
I am 5 months behind you--still walking on smooth ground and I look forward to hiking. Prior to my Osteoporosis and surgery, bike riding was one of my favorite activities.
I am due for another DEXA next year, and I'll see how that goes.🤞
Sending you my Best wishes as you continue to improve.🙏😊🙏 Nadine
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