Can Coughing Increase Size and Risk of Aortic Anuerysm

Posted by mjm3 @mjm3, Jan 28, 2025

I am 67 years old with an ascending aortic aneurysm diagnosed last July at 4.1. I am scheduled for a six month CT angiogram next month to check for any growth – which I’m hoping there is none. However, over the last few weeks I’ve been battling a cold that turned into bronchitis that turned into mild pneumonia. Subsequently, I developed a cough that could be quite jarring at times. Late night googling found many different sources of contradictory information, but one stuck out that said “yes, coughing can be very dangerous for an ascending aortic aneurysm.” it did not specify how it was dangerous.
I have tried to contact my cardiologist twice about this and I must not be asking my question correctly because the nurse calls back with the reply that if I have questions about a cough, see my general practitioner. The GP said she’s not a cardiologist ask my cardiologist. It’s a vicious cycle. The urgent care doctor that prescribed antibiotics for the pneumonia had no idea about a cough correlating to a risk of aneurysm, but said to ask my cardiologist😵‍💫. Just wondering if anyone else had asked or spoken to their doctors about coughing, and if it causes the aneurysm to expand rapidly? I hope I don’t sound crazy, but I’m just really concerned about everything with this newly diagnosed issue. I want to be as safe as I can, but how do you prevent yourself from coughing when you’re sick. Cough medicine only goes so far. Thanks for any insight.

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Am so sorry they didn't feel like they could do it. Living with must feel like a ticking time bomb must be rather stressful; I know it would be for me. Let's just hope and pray it stays silent and doesn't create chaos due to a sudden ending.

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Profile picture for moonboy @moonboy

I’m not a doctor and I’m not giving medical advice, but I am a 10-year survivor of a complete and sudden aortic dissection, and I’ve spent a lot of time learning about aortic disease, navigating the medical system, and advocating for my own care.

ONE: You should also be getting a referral to a thoracic aortic surgeon as soon as possible. Cardiologists and primary care doctors play a role in monitoring an aneurysm, but they don’t fix them—surgeons do. A thoracic aortic surgeon is the only specialist truly qualified to assess the long-term risks, determine the best monitoring plan, and decide when (or if) intervention is needed. Many cardiologists, even very good ones, simply don’t have the expertise in aortic pathology to fully evaluate what’s going on beyond the standard “watch and wait” approach. Surgeons, on the other hand, spend their careers seeing how these aneurysms behave over time, understanding the subtleties of surgical timing, and weighing the risk of waiting versus intervening. Personally, I would not trust anyone but a surgeon who specializes in aortic disease to tell me whether I need surgery, how often I should be scanned, or what my true level of risk is. You don’t need to be scheduling surgery tomorrow, but you do need to establish a relationship with the specialist who will be responsible for making those calls down the road.

A 4.1 cm ascending thoracic aortic aneurysm falls into that gray area where it’s technically “mild,” but still something that requires monitoring. The real question isn’t just the size—it’s what else is going on with the aorta. Growth rate, family history, connective tissue disorders, blood pressure control, and valve function all play a role in risk assessment.

TWO: You’re absolutely right to push for a cardiologist. Aneurysms aren’t primary care medicine, and it’s frustrating when you meet resistance just trying to get in the right hands. A primary care doctor saying, “See you in 2-3 years” might be reasonable for a completely stable, slow-growing aneurysm, but it’s not a sufficient plan without deeper evaluation—especially if this was only diagnosed a few months ago. I get scanned every 12 months at a world class heart care center with state of the art CT with contrast, University of Minnesota - Minneapolis.

When you talk to your doctor on Monday , you might want to emphasize:

a. You want an aortic specialist or a cardiologist experienced in aortic disease. Not all cardiologists focus on aortic pathology, and a general cardiologist may not have the expertise to assess your long-term risk.
b. You need to know the growth rate. Did they compare this to any prior scans? Was it previously smaller, or is this a new finding?
c. You want a clear monitoring plan. Ask why they think 2-3 years is an appropriate timeline and if more frequent imaging (every 6-12 months) is warranted given your age and aneurysm location.

THREE: Exercise and Elevation
Again, not medical advice, but elevation and exercise are common concerns with aortic aneurysms. Some things to ask your doctor:
a. Blood pressure response at high altitudes – The body compensates for lower oxygen levels at high elevation by increasing heart rate and blood pressure, which can stress the aortic wall.
b. Valsalva maneuvers – Anything that causes sudden spikes in blood pressure (heavy lifting, straining, intense isometric exercise) can be risky for an aneurysm.
c. Cardio limits – Many doctors recommend low-to-moderate intensity exercise rather than pushing into high-intensity zones. Hiking is often fine, but with precautions.
d. Medication adjustments – Some people with aneurysms are put on beta-blockers or other medications to reduce stress on the aorta, especially if they are active.

FOUR: Coughing and Aortic Disease
A strong, uncontrolled cough can spike intrathoracic pressure and cause strain on the aortic wall. If you ever develop a chronic cough, shortness of breath, or any weird chest sensations, it’s worth bringing up. Some people with aneurysms (especially near the arch) have symptoms that can get dismissed as “normal” but are actually the aorta compressing nearby structures.

If you’re not getting the answers you need, keep pushing. Many of us with aortic disease have had to advocate hard to get the right specialist. Aneurysms are serious, even when they’re considered “mild,” and getting ahead of the game now can make all the difference later. Peace.

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@moonboy
Would a vascular surgeon give more complete answers and not ignore questions such as chronic coughing from someone with a TAA? From what I have read, vascular surgeons have more well-rounded responses and recommendations, not just surgery, for someone with an ascending aortic aneurysm. If you had a choice, and starting fresh, without any aortic dissection, would you seek out a vascular surgeon or a cardiothoracic surgeon if diagnosed with an aneurysm?

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Yes, I would very firmly demand a referral to a consult with a cardio thoracic surgeon with expertise and aortic aneurysm repair.

I watched a video on YouTube once of a medical conference on aortic dissection at the Cleveland clinic. Less than 2% of the people in the crowd composed of doctors and registered nurses could identify an aortic dissection and a false lumen from an image on the screen in front of them of a CT scan. That tells me that at least in that group, you had a 98% chance of dying if any given person in their group was your diagnostician that day. I’m not saying that medical providers are incompetent. But I am saying is that if they are not familiar with the problem in front of them, they’re not going to have sufficient time to learn about it before you are dead.

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I have a Cardio doctor and a thoracic surgeon, the thoracic surgeon is the doctor that is monitoring my aneurysms. Perhaps request to see a Thoracic Surgeon, they know a lot more and would answer your questions.

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It is maddening. And to make matters worse, I saw another cardiologist in the fall for a second opinion. Now when I went to ask my original cardiologist the cough related question-again today, I was met with a very snarky nurse that said "according to MyChart you already spoke with another doctors office so who are you working with?" Yikes.I guess there is no privacy, either. (Note I have been with my original cardiologist since 2008 when I developed mitral valve regurge. I sure was not expecting such a send off. )

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@mjm3 Apparently, when we sign the doctors' release forms, we waive our privacy, including other doctors being able to see what we are treated for. Same thing happened to me on My Chart. My (former) cardiologist was able to see another CT scan I had done for a 2nd opinion with another cardiologist. Embarrassing!

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I'm 62 years old and was diagnosed August 2024 with a "4.1 cm mild ascending thoracic aortic aneurysm".

Have had sonogram, CT scan, PET scan, and Echocardiogram.

The Echocardiogram was only a few days ago and produced what I thought was an amazing 79 measurements.

All I've heard back from the primary doctor is an email stating to be sure and schedule another echocardiogram in 2-3 years

I've put in request to hear from a cardiologist, their perspective on the 79 echocardiogram findings.

This request seems to be meeting with some resistance?

Have a phone call appointment with the primary doctor on Monday 2/3/24 about getting approved to speak with a cardiologist.

Your situation with coughing is a thought that hadn't occurred to me. Glad you mentioned it. I'll add that to my Monday 2/3 phone call appointment questions.

Among my questions is what is an acceptable level of cardio exercise, if any limits?

Is hiking above the 14,000 foot elevation a concern?

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@james4cm I am surprised that your primary care doctor will be able to interpret your Echocardiogram findings. I recently learned I have an ascending aortic aneurysm (4.6 cm) and immediately began a search for a cardiologist. This was the start of a frustrating learning experience........I assumed a cardiologist would know everything about the heart........how wrong! I needed either a cardiothoracic specialist or a vascular doctor. The cardiologist that was recommended to me was a "generalist" and only knew enough about aneurysms to recommend me to a thoracic surgeon. I am told it is hard to find a cardiologist specializing in aneurysms and that is why a lot of recommendations have been with thoracic surgeons. I was just looking for information on aneurysms. How to treat it and how to interpret the results of my multiple CT scans and Echocardiograms. So, if you a have a primary care doctor knowledgeable in Echocardiogram findings, you're lucky!

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My 4.4 reading was last June , 8 months ago. Just has a CT with. Contrast this am. Anxious to see the results .

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@glendamn

When I go to Mayo Clinic Jacksonville for the CT with contrast and echocardiograms etc., I have the results within a few hours.

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@mjm3 Apparently, when we sign the doctors' release forms, we waive our privacy, including other doctors being able to see what we are treated for. Same thing happened to me on My Chart. My (former) cardiologist was able to see another CT scan I had done for a 2nd opinion with another cardiologist. Embarrassing!

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@ewei6911 Don't get embarrassed, I'm pretty sure your doctor would also seek a second opinion for himself or a loved one. The main focus is for you to get the correct diagnosis or remedy for your issue.

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Profile picture for moonboy @moonboy

I’m not a doctor and I’m not giving medical advice, but I am a 10-year survivor of a complete and sudden aortic dissection, and I’ve spent a lot of time learning about aortic disease, navigating the medical system, and advocating for my own care.

ONE: You should also be getting a referral to a thoracic aortic surgeon as soon as possible. Cardiologists and primary care doctors play a role in monitoring an aneurysm, but they don’t fix them—surgeons do. A thoracic aortic surgeon is the only specialist truly qualified to assess the long-term risks, determine the best monitoring plan, and decide when (or if) intervention is needed. Many cardiologists, even very good ones, simply don’t have the expertise in aortic pathology to fully evaluate what’s going on beyond the standard “watch and wait” approach. Surgeons, on the other hand, spend their careers seeing how these aneurysms behave over time, understanding the subtleties of surgical timing, and weighing the risk of waiting versus intervening. Personally, I would not trust anyone but a surgeon who specializes in aortic disease to tell me whether I need surgery, how often I should be scanned, or what my true level of risk is. You don’t need to be scheduling surgery tomorrow, but you do need to establish a relationship with the specialist who will be responsible for making those calls down the road.

A 4.1 cm ascending thoracic aortic aneurysm falls into that gray area where it’s technically “mild,” but still something that requires monitoring. The real question isn’t just the size—it’s what else is going on with the aorta. Growth rate, family history, connective tissue disorders, blood pressure control, and valve function all play a role in risk assessment.

TWO: You’re absolutely right to push for a cardiologist. Aneurysms aren’t primary care medicine, and it’s frustrating when you meet resistance just trying to get in the right hands. A primary care doctor saying, “See you in 2-3 years” might be reasonable for a completely stable, slow-growing aneurysm, but it’s not a sufficient plan without deeper evaluation—especially if this was only diagnosed a few months ago. I get scanned every 12 months at a world class heart care center with state of the art CT with contrast, University of Minnesota - Minneapolis.

When you talk to your doctor on Monday , you might want to emphasize:

a. You want an aortic specialist or a cardiologist experienced in aortic disease. Not all cardiologists focus on aortic pathology, and a general cardiologist may not have the expertise to assess your long-term risk.
b. You need to know the growth rate. Did they compare this to any prior scans? Was it previously smaller, or is this a new finding?
c. You want a clear monitoring plan. Ask why they think 2-3 years is an appropriate timeline and if more frequent imaging (every 6-12 months) is warranted given your age and aneurysm location.

THREE: Exercise and Elevation
Again, not medical advice, but elevation and exercise are common concerns with aortic aneurysms. Some things to ask your doctor:
a. Blood pressure response at high altitudes – The body compensates for lower oxygen levels at high elevation by increasing heart rate and blood pressure, which can stress the aortic wall.
b. Valsalva maneuvers – Anything that causes sudden spikes in blood pressure (heavy lifting, straining, intense isometric exercise) can be risky for an aneurysm.
c. Cardio limits – Many doctors recommend low-to-moderate intensity exercise rather than pushing into high-intensity zones. Hiking is often fine, but with precautions.
d. Medication adjustments – Some people with aneurysms are put on beta-blockers or other medications to reduce stress on the aorta, especially if they are active.

FOUR: Coughing and Aortic Disease
A strong, uncontrolled cough can spike intrathoracic pressure and cause strain on the aortic wall. If you ever develop a chronic cough, shortness of breath, or any weird chest sensations, it’s worth bringing up. Some people with aneurysms (especially near the arch) have symptoms that can get dismissed as “normal” but are actually the aorta compressing nearby structures.

If you’re not getting the answers you need, keep pushing. Many of us with aortic disease have had to advocate hard to get the right specialist. Aneurysms are serious, even when they’re considered “mild,” and getting ahead of the game now can make all the difference later. Peace.

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@moonboy what about sneezing?
My husband sneezes hard about 10-15 times after he gets up in the morning?
That seems scary! His is 4.2

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I wouldn't lose sleep over sneezing. A 4.2 cm aorta is enlarged, but a sneeze is a very short burst of pressure. Doctors are much more concerned about chronic high blood pressure and heavy straining I think than about a morning sneezing fit. Ten to fifteen sneezes every morning sounds more like an allergy or sinus issue than an aortic issue. If anything, I'd focus on figuring out why he's sneezing so much. Of course, if he develops sudden severe chest pain, back pain, shortness of breath, or other concerning symptoms, that's a different story. But sneezing itself would not be high on my list of worries for someone with a stable 4.2 cm aorta. Peace

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