What to do when pulmonologist is passive?

Posted by sunnirivers @sunnirivers, 2 days ago

Thank you for this group. Recently diagnosed, again, I'll explain.
I am a 59 yo female, diagnosed with aspergillus (with removal) at 33. Wound up a NJH after repeated pneumonias. Sputum culture came back negative. Went on with my life.
40's was inflammation of joints, lots of them.
Early 50's breast cancer.
Past 7 months, lung infection after lung infection. Insisted on cat scan. Came back tree-in bud, both lower lobes, and ill defined solid clustering of nodules within left lower lobe, largest 7mm.
Saw local pulmonologist. I was a new patient. Walked in. Said I have bronchiectasis and suspects NTM. Said he wouldn't be able to get a clear diagnosis because 2 cultures have to come back positive and I have been on multiple antibiotics. My spirometry came back low but I don't even know what that means. He brushed it off. I asked him to please do a lung wash because 20yrs ago that made me feel better. He said it wasn't necessary. He prescribed alot of things. Something to go in nebulizer, (my pharmacy doesn't fill it), a flutter valve, (can only find on amazon), zurtek, advair, albuterol, and flonase. Said I would have a follow up cat scan in July. I see his nurse practitioner next week, thank goodness. I still can't breathe well. My chest feels tight, and restricted. Should I see another Dr? I am not a wealthy person and trying to find a specialist, in this field, in the South, will not be easy and most likely very costly. Any advise would be great. He also said he doesn't think its cancer again? He said thats the least likely.
I can't thank you enough for any words of wisdom you can share. I have been scrolling through all your boards and found out that I should buy my 7% from Amazon and not pharmacy. I would have never known that if it was not for all of you. So, again, my sincere gratitude from a new comer who know very little. I did watch the 40 minute video that Sue recommended from NJH.
Have the greatest day

Sunni

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@snoei I was not too diligent about replacing mine either, until about a year ago - I misplaced the old one, broke out the new one and the treatment felt "different." When the old one resurfaced a few days later as I unpacked, I tried them side-by-side, on the same setting. The new one required less effort to get the same vibration in my chest. So, now I am convinced that they are on to something. I don't know whether it is extended use or repeated sterilizing (I only do it once a week), but something changes the way the device works over time.

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@sueinmn Oh, that's very interesting. Thanks for your input. I sterilize in alcohol which probably does affect the materials they are made of. Thanks!

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@bronchiectasaurus I can't thank you enough for your encouragement and kind words. I called the closest clinic, which is about 3 hours east of me in Charleston, SC. They said my pulmonologist had to refer me. I think I will see if the PA will do that for me. I have literally seen the pulmonologist once, for about 20 minutes.
Have the best evening. And again, thank you for your kindness. It genuinely matters.

Sunni

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@sunnirivers You might like to also look into Dr. Colin Swenson in Atlanta, Ga...BE specialist associated with Emory....... and also as well at the suggestion of the UNC clinic in Chapel Hill.
I may be wrong but they are about the same distance from you, from Charleston, SC.

You may be able to refer yourself, but always best to get insurance approval. The Doctors office you choose to go to or the Center you decide on might be able to help with that approval from your insurance....unless you don't need pre approval by your insurance company.???
Barbara

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Thank you so much! Yes, Atlanta and Charleston are the same distance! I’m calling them both today. This information is so helpful. Without accepting my insurance, or getting prior authorization, I would not be able to see them because it would be unaffordable. So thank you for reminding me to ask that when trying to schedule!
Have the greatest day

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This is my first post but I may be able to help. I receive excellent care at the Bronchiectasis Care Center at UNC in Chapel Hill. We travel from Virginia, about 200 miles each way, a couple of times a year. The team is outstanding. Good Luck

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@mc78 I agree re: the Bronchiectasis Center at UNC. I have also heard good things about Emory in Atlanta. Good luck finding the right medical team.

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Thank you all so much. UNC requires dr referral. I made an appointment for Dr Colin Swanson at Emory….DECEMBER 31st, lol. I asked if I could be put on a cancellation list and they said ok, however unlikely.
So I’ll try to get referral next week from nurse practitioner at pulmonologist office, and also a prescription sent for an OPEP.
Y’all have literally saved me and I can’t thank you all enough

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Thank you all so much. UNC requires dr referral. I made an appointment for Dr Colin Swanson at Emory….DECEMBER 31st, lol. I asked if I could be put on a cancellation list and they said ok, however unlikely.
So I’ll try to get referral next week from nurse practitioner at pulmonologist office, and also a prescription sent for an OPEP.
Y’all have literally saved me and I can’t thank you all enough

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@sunnirivers
Call his office every week late in the day to inquire about cancellations etc. Sometimes their schedules change and things open up.

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@scoop It might not be "rare" in prevalence, but treatment knowledge and experience does not seem to be increasing as fast as one would hope.

Like you, I hope that "..."theoretically more pulmonologists will become familiar with the disease and include it in their differential diagnosis...'' I plan to talk to my pulmonologist about how she/we can help advance knowledge and recognition. With the use of diagnostic tools, there should be a way to get there.

But once recognized, the key is to be current with best practices & treatment protocols. My Fear is the recognition may be there, but the people with up-to-date skills will not.

Just to get a picture of totals, based on numbers from the Lung Association, the Asthma and Allergy Foundation, and bronchiectasisinfo.org:
Bronchiectasis 600,000 people (based on increasing awareness/diagnosis) or .18% of people,
COPD 11,100,000 or 3.3% of people, and Asthma 28,200,000 or 8% of people
That means the pulmonologist is 18 times more likely to see people with COPD and 450+ times more likely to see people with Asthma than people with Bronchiectasis.

Where will their treatment knowledge and expertise be the greatest?

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@sueinmn absolutely. It is incredible how few pulmonologists have the treatment knowledge and experience to treat BE well, even where they had the wherewithal to include in differential. The treating WELL part is really lagging. As someone who is part of a very large HMO, I had to go elsewhere for that expertise (and pay out of pocket) and I can tell you that the difference in expertise between my very large HMO and the designated care centers for BE/NTM (I have been to two) is significant! My experience has made me a huge advocate for the designated care centers.

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Thank you all so much. UNC requires dr referral. I made an appointment for Dr Colin Swanson at Emory….DECEMBER 31st, lol. I asked if I could be put on a cancellation list and they said ok, however unlikely.
So I’ll try to get referral next week from nurse practitioner at pulmonologist office, and also a prescription sent for an OPEP.
Y’all have literally saved me and I can’t thank you all enough

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@sunnirivers Dr. Swenson has a podcast on BE/NTM that is fabulous. NTMTalk. Honestly, he seems like the BEST. A 6 month wait at the designated care centers is pretty standard. I have gone to two (out west) and in both cases it was a 6 month wait for my initial appointment. Cancellations do happen, but are pretty rare. When you’ve waited 6 months for an appointment, you tend to make it, come hell or high water. Dr Swenson is speaking at next week’s NTM conference hosted by NTMir, which you can still sign up to attend virtually. (https://connect.ntminfo.org/events/event-description). If you can get in earlier at UNC, worth doing so, but honestly I think I would still see Dr Swenson, if only for another opinion ( if you can swing it). If he weren’t so far away from me (literally opposite coast) he would be top of my list.

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@sunnirivers Dr. Swenson has a podcast on BE/NTM that is fabulous. NTMTalk. Honestly, he seems like the BEST. A 6 month wait at the designated care centers is pretty standard. I have gone to two (out west) and in both cases it was a 6 month wait for my initial appointment. Cancellations do happen, but are pretty rare. When you’ve waited 6 months for an appointment, you tend to make it, come hell or high water. Dr Swenson is speaking at next week’s NTM conference hosted by NTMir, which you can still sign up to attend virtually. (https://connect.ntminfo.org/events/event-description). If you can get in earlier at UNC, worth doing so, but honestly I think I would still see Dr Swenson, if only for another opinion ( if you can swing it). If he weren’t so far away from me (literally opposite coast) he would be top of my list.

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@bayarea58 thank you so so much! I will absolutely take your advice! Thanks again
Have the greatest day!

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Thank you all so much. UNC requires dr referral. I made an appointment for Dr Colin Swanson at Emory….DECEMBER 31st, lol. I asked if I could be put on a cancellation list and they said ok, however unlikely.
So I’ll try to get referral next week from nurse practitioner at pulmonologist office, and also a prescription sent for an OPEP.
Y’all have literally saved me and I can’t thank you all enough

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@sunnirivers Dr Colin Swenson co-hosts (Wendy Drummond is the other host) a podcast called NTM Talk. You should take a listen-to all seasons. They just released a new season after a few years break. He is very well respected and seems to be very up to date and compassionate. I live to far away but would jump at a chance to have him as my treating doctor.

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