Can Coughing Increase Size and Risk of Aortic Anuerysm

Posted by mjm3 @mjm3, Jan 28, 2025

I am 67 years old with an ascending aortic aneurysm diagnosed last July at 4.1. I am scheduled for a six month CT angiogram next month to check for any growth – which I’m hoping there is none. However, over the last few weeks I’ve been battling a cold that turned into bronchitis that turned into mild pneumonia. Subsequently, I developed a cough that could be quite jarring at times. Late night googling found many different sources of contradictory information, but one stuck out that said “yes, coughing can be very dangerous for an ascending aortic aneurysm.” it did not specify how it was dangerous.
I have tried to contact my cardiologist twice about this and I must not be asking my question correctly because the nurse calls back with the reply that if I have questions about a cough, see my general practitioner. The GP said she’s not a cardiologist ask my cardiologist. It’s a vicious cycle. The urgent care doctor that prescribed antibiotics for the pneumonia had no idea about a cough correlating to a risk of aneurysm, but said to ask my cardiologist😵‍💫. Just wondering if anyone else had asked or spoken to their doctors about coughing, and if it causes the aneurysm to expand rapidly? I hope I don’t sound crazy, but I’m just really concerned about everything with this newly diagnosed issue. I want to be as safe as I can, but how do you prevent yourself from coughing when you’re sick. Cough medicine only goes so far. Thanks for any insight.

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anybody know the approximate mortality rate for surgery when you have an expert team working on you? also the experts seem hard to find besides traveling many miles? any information on how old the doctors don't want to do surgery? i realizes health would be a major issue. that's why many on this site wish the option was up to us?

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i would like to also add that i have already survived open heart surgery at 75. i would say it was pretty easy peasy for me. i am in pretty good shape and doctor was right i wouldn't need any cardiac rehab. now 78 and i say get it over with before my health goes downhill. i don't actual dwell on the situation very much but i'm sure in the last 13 years i have lifted too much and luckily i lived which i think most of you have been through also. good luck to all of us,

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Profile picture for donnawhite @donnawhite

My descending aortic aneurysm was at 3.6 c and my doctors have been watching it since 2019. It was growing 2 mm every 6 months. When it got to 5.5, my wonderful doctor at UCSF thought she should do surgery. The percentage of death, paralyses, or stroke was more than I was willing to risk. I have 4 children, and I did not want to be a hugh burden. But I sought a second opinion at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio. They are considered the gold level in aneurysms treatment. The doctor there said, go live your life, play tennis, golf and enjoy yourself. He said a surgery at my age would not likely have a good outcome. Well, I got my softball glove out and started fielding grounders. It was so fun. But with-in three months I could tell something was different. I had a ct scan ant it had grown 8 mm in three months. Well, I put my glove away and am still on the tennis court but not hitting balls, just walking around gathering them together for my grandson's lessons. Hiking up hills might be a strain on your aneurysm. Mine grew to 6.3 very quickly, but I will admit I loved every minute I was active. So, you choose things like that. Be careful, or go for it, you have to decide if it is worth it. I have always been active, just going slow is very hard. I have been given 6 months to live at this point. I am at peace with this. I know where I am going.

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@donnawhite I wish you would have said what the Cleveland Clinic thought was "at your age a surgery would not have a good outcome". I am amazed that C. Clinic would say that about a DESCENDING AORTIC ANEURYSM since only a minor groin incision is required and a stint fed up the aorta to the aneurysm. I am 89 but have an ascending thoracic aortic aneurysm which requires open heart surgery. I am otherwise in good health but am concerned that doctors would think my age is also a problem.

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Profile picture for pattytd @pattytd

I have the exact same situation. 4.1 and bronchitis. I was also concerned about the coughing.

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@pattytd I've been sick for a month and the doctors did not give me antibiotics to clear up the bronchitis. I went into copd exacderbation. Had to go to the er for treatment. when i coughed i thought my chest was on fire. hopefully it did not hurt my aneurysm. I"m at 4.1. heart dr. said that was small.

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Profile picture for gcgc @gcgc

@pattytd I've been sick for a month and the doctors did not give me antibiotics to clear up the bronchitis. I went into copd exacderbation. Had to go to the er for treatment. when i coughed i thought my chest was on fire. hopefully it did not hurt my aneurysm. I"m at 4.1. heart dr. said that was small.

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@gcgc I hope you all get better soon and stay healthy the rest of the winter. hugs

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Last summer was similar in that the cough was not allowing sleep, and my bp went high. Nebulizer helped except at night. My AAA just increased to 4.0 from 3.8.
5’2 and bmi 25.. yet bp up to lower , now 155/63 or more.
My six month scan is June.
Warm water w honey fresh lemon soothing.. but robitussen dm was most useful. What to do?

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@glendamn Just wondering how you're doing? any increase in the size of your aneurysm?

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@picturemanz hey thanks for checking in , I’m a little late in replying . I have a CT due next month . I’ve have different measurements from 4.1 . 4.2 4.3 and 4.4 . So I’ve asked for a gated CT . Not sure if the surgeon ordering the CT will comply . But seems like it’s staying in that range for now . Fingers crossed it stays put! Also still waiting on genetic testing. Everything is wait wait wait .

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It is maddening. And to make matters worse, I saw another cardiologist in the fall for a second opinion. Now when I went to ask my original cardiologist the cough related question-again today, I was met with a very snarky nurse that said "according to MyChart you already spoke with another doctors office so who are you working with?" Yikes.I guess there is no privacy, either. (Note I have been with my original cardiologist since 2008 when I developed mitral valve regurge. I sure was not expecting such a send off. )

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@mjm3
I have a 4.9 an asymptomatic ascending aortic aneurysm diagnosed a year ago that my cardiologist is content with monitoring every six months. The precursor for this comment however, is your mention of mitral valve regurge diagnosed in 2008. I was diagnosed with mitral valve regurge last month during an echocardiogram to check on my AAA (unchanged). Presently, I exercise regularly, but can tell that my endurance has decreased. Not sure if that's attributable to the mitral valve or age (I'm 70) or both. In any event, my cardiologist also wants to monitor my mitral valve situation. I'm concerned and if possible, would like to fix it while I'm still in relatively good health.
Are you doing anything to treat your mitral valve issues? Having lived with it for almost 18 years, I'm very interested in whether it has stabilized, improved or worsened(hopefully not). If you have previously shared information about it on Mayo Connect, please let me know and I'll find it. Thank you.

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Profile picture for moonboy @moonboy

I’m not a doctor and I’m not giving medical advice, but I am a 10-year survivor of a complete and sudden aortic dissection, and I’ve spent a lot of time learning about aortic disease, navigating the medical system, and advocating for my own care.

ONE: You should also be getting a referral to a thoracic aortic surgeon as soon as possible. Cardiologists and primary care doctors play a role in monitoring an aneurysm, but they don’t fix them—surgeons do. A thoracic aortic surgeon is the only specialist truly qualified to assess the long-term risks, determine the best monitoring plan, and decide when (or if) intervention is needed. Many cardiologists, even very good ones, simply don’t have the expertise in aortic pathology to fully evaluate what’s going on beyond the standard “watch and wait” approach. Surgeons, on the other hand, spend their careers seeing how these aneurysms behave over time, understanding the subtleties of surgical timing, and weighing the risk of waiting versus intervening. Personally, I would not trust anyone but a surgeon who specializes in aortic disease to tell me whether I need surgery, how often I should be scanned, or what my true level of risk is. You don’t need to be scheduling surgery tomorrow, but you do need to establish a relationship with the specialist who will be responsible for making those calls down the road.

A 4.1 cm ascending thoracic aortic aneurysm falls into that gray area where it’s technically “mild,” but still something that requires monitoring. The real question isn’t just the size—it’s what else is going on with the aorta. Growth rate, family history, connective tissue disorders, blood pressure control, and valve function all play a role in risk assessment.

TWO: You’re absolutely right to push for a cardiologist. Aneurysms aren’t primary care medicine, and it’s frustrating when you meet resistance just trying to get in the right hands. A primary care doctor saying, “See you in 2-3 years” might be reasonable for a completely stable, slow-growing aneurysm, but it’s not a sufficient plan without deeper evaluation—especially if this was only diagnosed a few months ago. I get scanned every 12 months at a world class heart care center with state of the art CT with contrast, University of Minnesota - Minneapolis.

When you talk to your doctor on Monday , you might want to emphasize:

a. You want an aortic specialist or a cardiologist experienced in aortic disease. Not all cardiologists focus on aortic pathology, and a general cardiologist may not have the expertise to assess your long-term risk.
b. You need to know the growth rate. Did they compare this to any prior scans? Was it previously smaller, or is this a new finding?
c. You want a clear monitoring plan. Ask why they think 2-3 years is an appropriate timeline and if more frequent imaging (every 6-12 months) is warranted given your age and aneurysm location.

THREE: Exercise and Elevation
Again, not medical advice, but elevation and exercise are common concerns with aortic aneurysms. Some things to ask your doctor:
a. Blood pressure response at high altitudes – The body compensates for lower oxygen levels at high elevation by increasing heart rate and blood pressure, which can stress the aortic wall.
b. Valsalva maneuvers – Anything that causes sudden spikes in blood pressure (heavy lifting, straining, intense isometric exercise) can be risky for an aneurysm.
c. Cardio limits – Many doctors recommend low-to-moderate intensity exercise rather than pushing into high-intensity zones. Hiking is often fine, but with precautions.
d. Medication adjustments – Some people with aneurysms are put on beta-blockers or other medications to reduce stress on the aorta, especially if they are active.

FOUR: Coughing and Aortic Disease
A strong, uncontrolled cough can spike intrathoracic pressure and cause strain on the aortic wall. If you ever develop a chronic cough, shortness of breath, or any weird chest sensations, it’s worth bringing up. Some people with aneurysms (especially near the arch) have symptoms that can get dismissed as “normal” but are actually the aorta compressing nearby structures.

If you’re not getting the answers you need, keep pushing. Many of us with aortic disease have had to advocate hard to get the right specialist. Aneurysms are serious, even when they’re considered “mild,” and getting ahead of the game now can make all the difference later. Peace.

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Ive been coughing since before Christas. I don't know what is causing it. I do have copd but I was fine until I had to have Orkin over here. Got sick right after. Took 3 covid tests and 3 flu tests. Not given any reslults. At first couldnt even get antibiotics for whatever it was. Got so bad had to go to hospital with copd exesberation. I am not on the nebulizer. I would like it. They put me on wixela and its a powder. Says not to use it if allergic to milk. I am and always have been. I use albuterol and a nose spray . I did have a ct scan on monday. they refused to do it because they couldn't tell if i was premedicated the last time since I did have an issue with a kidney dye 30 years ago. Now I need to start over. I don;t know if this is caused because of my heart or the copd. so confused.

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