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Aortic Flutter Test 98% prediction accuracy
Hi Everyone! I just found this forum today. There's such great information here!
I'm a 77 year old male with a 4.6 cm (CT last Oct.) ascending aortic aneurysm. The cardiologist didn't seem that concerned, and said let's check it again in a year... I'm scheduled for another CT this Oct. I'm in good health with no family history of heart disease. I don't smoke or drink...I play tennis 4 times a week...I live in Los Angeles.
I've come across something quite interesting and I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with it.
It's called the “flutter instability parameter” (FIP), the new metric (calculated with a single 4D flow MRI) predicted future aneurysm with 98% accuracy on average three years after the FIP was first measured.
It seems this would help in determining how dangerous an aneurysm is...
The research was done at Northwestern University. I've tried emailing the researcher, but I haven't gotten a reply. My cardiologist hadn't heard of it...
Here's a YouTube link:
Article link:
https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2023/12/unstable-fluttering-predicts-aortic-aneurysm/
Let's hope this will be a value...
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Welcome to the group. How did you happen upon this video? It's very interesting and I plan to share it with my cardiologist.
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1 ReactionThank you for sharing this information. I read the article and watched the video. Both were informative and interesting. I doubt this imaging is available at my health provider but I will check on it.
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1 ReactionThanks for the welcome! I really don't remember how I found this. Most likely I found the video first on YouTube.
I've watched most, if not all, the YouTube videos relating to ascending aortic aneurysms.
Another GREAT research source is the search app, Perplexity a.i. It's a free app and makes it very easy to find exactly the information you're looking for. It summarizes the answer with footnotes and shows links to the articles they're basing their answer on. You can then read the source material if you want.
It's also contextual. You don't need to rephrase the question. For example, "please rephrase your answer in less technical terms...
And, it suggests 6 or 7 additional related questions, you might not have thought of asking.
So much better than Google...
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1 ReactionIf this really is true, I would travel wherever it was available.
Knowing just the size of the aneurysm doesn't tell us how dangerous it is. Unfortunately, dissection or rupture can happen at any dilation.
Sure, on AVERAGE the larger the aneurysm, the more dangerous it is, but I would like to know more about my particular aneurysm. At 4.6 cm and very little flutter, I'm not so worried. But if there's a lot of instability (flutter) in the aortic wall, surgery could save my life.
Perhaps Northwestern could interpret flutter from an MRI done anywhere...
Of course, I'm not a cardiologist and I only know what I've read, but if there's a chance this is works, it could save a lot of lives...
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1 ReactionThanks for the welcome!
I most likely found it on Perplexity. If you haven't tried it, please do! It's free and a million times better than Google.
I presented this paper to my cardiologist. Although he hadn't heard of, he kind of dismissed it and handed the paper back to me... It was very disappointing.
I hope you have better luck with your cardiologist.
So with a 4.6 accending aneurysm. He didn't say stop playing tennis?
No...he didn't seem concerned. I am 77 years old and play with others the same age, but I do work up a sweat. I also go to the gym and do resistance training. Mostly 10 to 12 reps but not pushing it.
My next CT is in Oct. Depending on the results, it could change my exercise routine. If I'm near 5.0, I'd opt for intervention now...
Carl, what dilation are you, and what did your cardiologist recommend as far a exercise go?
Also, I didn't mention I'm 6'5", so my 4.6 cm isn't like a smaller person's 4.6 cm...
I'm 4.1 .73 years old I work weights 3 times and wal2 miles a day .cardiologist advised light weights ( I probably use more than I should). I was sort in a daze when I talk to him a bit taken back. But I do know I go on treadmill and walk faster the 3.6mph my bpm goes above 130 bpm.
From what I get from this site that is not good. So I can just imagine what it would be if I played tennis. Which I do enjoy.
I'm 6 foot 1 ich and 210 lbs