What Time in the Morning do you Take your Pred?
Here's the thing: I sleep fine on pred, lucky me. I take it around 7 AM, currently 11.25 mg. At this dose I have mild to moderate PMR shoulder stiffness/pain, and less often hip stiffness, upon rising around 7, which goes away as the afternoon wears on, so that by 4 PM I often have zero stiffness/pain. In the evening I get achy for other, mostly non-PMR reasons. Go to bed around 10.
So I often start to wake up around 4 (adjust cpap, pee) then go back to sleep. But more often that not lately, when I'm half awake, I realize I have no pain, no stiffness, no nothing. I wave my arms around and have full, easy range of motion. Which is weird, since by that time the pred has almost completely worn off, and even if my adrenal glands were producing cortisol, this is the cortisol down time. This has happened half a dozen or more times that I'm aware of in the past month. In fact I've occasionally awakened at 1 or 2 AM and realized I have the same lovely pain-free movement.
Has anyone else experienced this?
I think, wow, this great, and go back to sleep, dozing till 6 AM or so. By which time my shoulders are most often mildly to moderately stiff/sore (at this dose). Repeat.
I can actually feel the return of the mild stiffness, minute by minute, between 4 and 5ish AM.
I've read a few posts here that reference people taking their pred at 3 or 4 AM, but I haven't found a thread on the topic (apologies if I've missed it and am duplicating).
Anyway, I'm going to try it. I'll be curious to see if it makes a difference, or just shifts the times I mention above by a couple of hours. I should probably aim for 3 AM, to give the pred some time to work its magic; not sure I'll be able to convince myself to do that when push comes to shove. But we'll see.
But. my real question is, why is this happening? My previous experience with other musculoskeletal issues (when I haven't been on pred) has been that nights can be the worst. Maybe the MSM I'm now taking? But I take that in the morning too (it has a half life of 12 hrs). Or the protein I'm now obsessed with increasing?
I get it (thank you Mayo Connect!) that IL-6 and other proinflammatory cytokines are likely being released during that early morning period, when the pred is at it's lowest effectiveness, so I get why the stiffness returns then. But why do I feel at my best between 1 AM and 4 AM? Though as I write all this, I'm thinking, well, it's because the pred has done its work for the day, and the IL-6 is at low ebb, and you're having a "normal" refreshing sleep. Which hasn't been my experience in quite some time.
Thoughts?
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I searched for "timing of prednisone", and "what time to take prednisone", and found a couple of links -
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/timing-of-taking-prednisone/
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/conflict-with-rhumatologist-over-taking-prednisone-for-pmr-in-ampm/
I was on prednisone for 14 months, and I always took it as a single dose around 4 am. I was fortunate and never had any more symptoms of GCA or PMR once I started treatment (prednisone and Actemra).
Have you ever tried splitting your dose so that it lasts longer into the next day? Maybe take 3/4 like usual and 1/4 around noon or during the afternoon?
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3 Reactions@jeff97 "Have you ever tried splitting your dose so that it lasts longer into the next day? "
No, I haven't. I'm currently establishing my lowest effective dose. 12.5 mg pretty much eliminates all stiffness/pain; at 11.25 mg, the symptoms at their worst are only about 20% of the pre-pred symptoms. Don't want to change up too many variables at once. I'm happy with the process thus far.
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1 ReactionUpdate 1. The gods were kind: I awoke at 4 AM, took my 11.25 pred, and went back to sleep. Woke up at 7 with only the faintest of shoulder stiffness and no hip stiffness (which I haven't been having anyway). The morning has been as close to pain-free as I get; a significant improvement over most other 11.25 mornings.
One day is a small sample-size, of course, so I'm just enjoying feeling so fine.
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1 ReactionIn average people under average circumstances (ie., no jet lag, sleep at night, awake during the day, no acute illness) blood cortisol levels peak between 6 AM and 9 AM. (This is why doctors recommend checking the blood cortisol level at approximately 8 AM if they are checking for adrenal insufficiency.) Taking your dose of prednisone between 6 and 9 AM will minimize adrenal suppression.
Most likely, you would minimize adrenal suppression by taking a larger single dose of prednisone in the morning to control your symptoms in the afternoon, as compared to splitting up the dose. Best strategy would be to discuss this with your doctor. There are some people who have found that the split dose regimen is absolutely necessary to control symptoms.
Good luck with this and please let us know how you are doing.
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1 ReactionOriginally, my rheumy told me to take prednisone as early as possible. I was awake at 5 am, took it then, but I’d have troubles with my upper arms. Sometimes, they could not raise or lift anything. Then, I started taking it after my 'bathroom break' in the middle of the night. What a change. I am now on 10mg and when I awake, the pain is minimal. I am able to start right into my daily activities.
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1 ReactionI've always been worried about stomach upset with prednisone so I've been taking it with a full breakfast between nine or 10 AM. For those of you taking it in the middle of the night or very early morning do you take it with food or a glass of milk? Has there been any stomach issue?
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2 Reactions@wendypics I've only done 4 AM twice. I don't take it with anything, and have not had a problem. But I have an iron stomach, and have, I must confess, taken prescription meds on an empty stomach my whole life. Without ill effects to date. (This excludes calcium and any time of Omega 3 oil, both of which make me nauseous, so I take them in the evening.)
I am now semi-reformed, and when I take my regular meds and supplements a few hours later, I do it with a meal.
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1 Reaction@wendypics I always took prednisone with a light breakfast very early in the morning. My rheumatologist also recommended I take a small aspirin every day because I had vision problems with GCA. The prednisone and aspirin both bothered my stomach, so I have to take a PPI (pantoprazole) to deal with the stomach irritation.
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If you're using the small aspirin as a blood thinner, maybe something like eliquis would be better for you and help you eliminate the ppi. I take my prednisone with one piece of dry toast and that keeps my stomach irritation in check.
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I take mine (Only since 7/31/26), by 7:30-8am. I think I'm going to try earlier like 6:30am. I did today because I find it still affects the depth of my sleep in early AM hours.
I drink a big glass of water 1st thing every morning.
Then a small glass of A2/A2 Organic grass fed low fat Keifer, then a Greek yogurt with walnuts and blueberries. Then I take my Prednisone with another big glass of water. I searched re stomach issues/Prednisone/coffee and it suggests to wait 1 hour after Prednisone before drinking coffee due to the acid in coffee. I wait at least 1/2hr. So far I haven't had any stomach issues. I have GERD (but don't take Proton pump inhibitors and haven't for years due to side effects/possible osteoporosis), only use Tums if needed but I try to avoid foods that cause reflux. I don't suggest anyone do what I do regarding GERD, just reporting. It's my thought that dairy is a good way to help protect the stomach, but probably any good solid food will help. I've used milk in the past too, but when first took Prednisone noticed some pain so went to my Keifer/yogurt and plenty of water.
Hope you find what will help you avoid stomach issues from the Prednisone.
(I'm highly lactose intolerant but the A2/A2 keifer doesn't have the A1 casein beta protein that's problematic, and for some reason I can eat Trader Joe's low fat plain Greek yogurt with no problems).
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