Tips on minimising withdrawal symptoms from Effexor (aka Venlafaxine)

Posted by richyrich @richyrich, Nov 2, 2016

I have been taking Effexor/Venlafaxine for years and tried to get off it a few times but each time I try to give up the chemical withdrawal symptoms are a horror story and I give up giving up. Anyone got any tips or tried and tested strategies? Thank you

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I take either 25 or 50 mg seroquel for sleep depending on how many hours I can get. In other words I only take 50 if Im going to bed early or can sleep in. My problem with it is similar to what I experienced with ambien which is sleep internet shopping and sleep eating. But with ambien I did not gain weight. With seroquel since December I have gained 20 pounds and I can't blame it all on the extra food, its also a side effect of the med. @secretwhitepop have you gained? I take adderall which should help keep the weight off. I'm taking vraylar which makes all my muscles hurt making it harder to want to exercise (of course the extra 20 pounds doesn't help my body either). Its horrible because I've never struggled with my weight before and it adds to anxiety and depression for me. And it frustrates me because psychologically I'm doing much better than I was than being in wd and now its like my body won't cooperate! I'm also back down to 75 mg effexor and looking forward to eventually being off. I think the vraylar will take care of mood stabilization, so if I can do the prozac bridgewheb I reach 37 5 of effexor I'm hopeful I can stop. The good news is that I have a psychiatrist and a psychiatric NP who are both very helpful. It took a long time to find them.
I look back at how I was last summer and its honestly hard for me to see how I even survived those days. I was a comoletely different person then. My father put it well, he said that now its like Im waking up.

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@cp6401

At the risk of sounding obsessive

Has anyone used trazadone for sleep whilst withdrawing from Effexor? Although I’m over a 1.5months off Effexor XR I’ve been prescribed (and accepted) trazadone 50mg for sleep. Since this was originally an antidepressant at higher doses back in the day I’m concerned that it’s stunting or extending my overall withdrawal. So if it naturally takes me 3/6/12 months to get off, With no aid, I’m just resetting my tapering schedule to 0 every time I use it and that it’s going to be yet another drug I need to get off of and go through this whole process again.. aarrrgg ..because as we know, when you ask a doctor with help with symptoms, you get a drug. And I am trying to do this as holistically as possible. (Haven’t needed Ativan in over 5 days)…

Another thing that bugs me is that if I have a good day, it’s the drug, not “I’m finally starting to feel good and seeing light at the end of the tunnel.

Does this make any sense to anyone ?

Thanks for reading

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Makes much sense. How does one tell what is working and what isnt? Is one “healed” because they have accepted their current state, whatever that is?

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@ksad

Makes much sense. How does one tell what is working and what isnt? Is one “healed” because they have accepted their current state, whatever that is?

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well i think acceptance has alot to do with it. Especially with DP/DR.. it's everything actually.

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@sandij

I take either 25 or 50 mg seroquel for sleep depending on how many hours I can get. In other words I only take 50 if Im going to bed early or can sleep in. My problem with it is similar to what I experienced with ambien which is sleep internet shopping and sleep eating. But with ambien I did not gain weight. With seroquel since December I have gained 20 pounds and I can't blame it all on the extra food, its also a side effect of the med. @secretwhitepop have you gained? I take adderall which should help keep the weight off. I'm taking vraylar which makes all my muscles hurt making it harder to want to exercise (of course the extra 20 pounds doesn't help my body either). Its horrible because I've never struggled with my weight before and it adds to anxiety and depression for me. And it frustrates me because psychologically I'm doing much better than I was than being in wd and now its like my body won't cooperate! I'm also back down to 75 mg effexor and looking forward to eventually being off. I think the vraylar will take care of mood stabilization, so if I can do the prozac bridgewheb I reach 37 5 of effexor I'm hopeful I can stop. The good news is that I have a psychiatrist and a psychiatric NP who are both very helpful. It took a long time to find them.
I look back at how I was last summer and its honestly hard for me to see how I even survived those days. I was a comoletely different person then. My father put it well, he said that now its like Im waking up.

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Yes, I have gained weight on seroquel and Zoloft, however, during my 6 month stint med-free I had lost almost 20 pounds due to anxiety! I’m sure I put it all back on but I’m not feeling like weighing myself. What did NOT come back, however, was the slightly high BP. It hovered just a bit above normal and I’m the type that was always low… so now it’s back to low Normal.

I’m also “med-shy” so, while I upped my dose of zoloft to 100 mgs daily (which was necessary and is effective) I cut my Seroquel in half. Half a 25 mg dose. If I take the whole pill I’m groggy all day the next day. If I take less than half, by the third day my anxiety creeps up. I’m still feeling it out but this is seeming to work with me.

Ha! And happily (I know it sounds strange) I cried the other day. I truly thought that since going on zoloft nothing affected me much anymore – but I was wrong :). It’s not the depression, it was just a sad and stressful thing.

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Hello All,

I am so pleased to have found a site like this where I can read about other people going through the same experiences as myself, right now! This is my second stab at becoming free of Venlafaxine forever… and I am trying so hard but the side effects are unbearable for me too :-(.

I suffer from chronic migraine (managed with Propranolol and Tryptans) and have done since I was about 18 years old (I am now 44 years young); since then I have had depressive episodes intermittently over the years and have been successful with Citalopram to overcome the feelings. I have been lucky in that I have never had suicidal thoughts, self harmed or anything too serious… just felt down, angry, irritable, sad, had social phobia… that sort of thing. Taking Citalopram over a couple of years put me back on track until the next episode, but I could live with that and I didn't suffer terribly tapering up/down off the drug either, apart from a little anxiety. All in all, I knew a suffered from time to time, but life was kind to me.
5 years ago I lost my nana, my world, my everything… one of the most special people in my life in the most cruellest of ways and my world crumbled… I can't hold back the tears still as I type. I had a breakdown and totally withdrew from life. My GP put me on Venlafaxine 3 x 37.5mg per day and I took it gladly, knowing that I just needed a little helping hand while I came to terms with my situation, I would soon be feeling okay, back on track and then I could drop the drug.
Tapering up – hallucinations were the most disturbing thing for me. I felt rubbish anyway so I didn't complain, I told my GP at the time but he was not concerned. I heard voices regularly but it was the spiders… oh my the spiders, they were enormous!! Casually watching the television with my husband and they would appear, begin multiplying and dropping off the TV onto the floor… running around the walls etc… luckily I am not scared of spiders… but my husband is (lol). I began to realise it was all in my head and didn't vocalise when I saw them after a while (for the sake of my husband!).

Tapering down I have come to realise, is not nice at all! I read something similar a little further back, given we are in this awful situation where we have to isolate, I too am working from home. I thought what better time than to finally drop this this last 37.5mg? I must say that I went cold turkey about 2 years ago when I couldn't get hold of my prescription and I literally thought I was dying, Monday couldn't come soon enough for me to replenish and within a couple of hours of taking the drug I felt vaguely 'normal' again! That is when I realised I needed to get off this nastiness that is keeping me on an even keel, I didn't want to have to rely on a drug that could make me feel so bad if I didn't get it, it didn't feel right, I wanted out.
With support from my GP I have tapered since. I was at 37.5mg for about 6 months, I wanted out but I was scared because I knew what was coming. Nevertheless, this time is right and I am day 5 of no drug… whoop… I feel proud that I have gotten this far! The constant nausea, diarrhoea, fogginess; the scary brain zaps, lack of sleep and crying over the slightest of things (happy or sad) are becoming unbearable. I've worked out, based on the half life, how long it would take for the drug to be negligible in my blood plasma and the calculation tells me 3 days tops, it's not the reality though, and you guys have articulated that too clearly also… I think it's making me anxious at the thought.

I can't give up, I won't give up… I can do this (I keep telling myself)… I just hope these effects don't last months like some posts I have read. I have read elsewhere that Benadryl (antihistamine) helps with the symptoms, I looked up a scientific paper and read how it contradicts Venlafaxine, hence why you should never use it whilst taking the antidepressant… I'm going to give it a go, along with the vitamins and omega supplements mentioned earlier in the thread. Thank you so much for the release in words, it really helps. Good luck in your journey everyone, and stay safe xxx

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Again! Effexor should be taken completely off the market and doctors need to admit the harm they’ve done to people after prescribing this drug. The doctors are absolutely clueless as to how to successfully taper a patient off this. Yet they’re held accountable for NOTHING!

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@jolyall

Hello All,

I am so pleased to have found a site like this where I can read about other people going through the same experiences as myself, right now! This is my second stab at becoming free of Venlafaxine forever… and I am trying so hard but the side effects are unbearable for me too :-(.

I suffer from chronic migraine (managed with Propranolol and Tryptans) and have done since I was about 18 years old (I am now 44 years young); since then I have had depressive episodes intermittently over the years and have been successful with Citalopram to overcome the feelings. I have been lucky in that I have never had suicidal thoughts, self harmed or anything too serious… just felt down, angry, irritable, sad, had social phobia… that sort of thing. Taking Citalopram over a couple of years put me back on track until the next episode, but I could live with that and I didn't suffer terribly tapering up/down off the drug either, apart from a little anxiety. All in all, I knew a suffered from time to time, but life was kind to me.
5 years ago I lost my nana, my world, my everything… one of the most special people in my life in the most cruellest of ways and my world crumbled… I can't hold back the tears still as I type. I had a breakdown and totally withdrew from life. My GP put me on Venlafaxine 3 x 37.5mg per day and I took it gladly, knowing that I just needed a little helping hand while I came to terms with my situation, I would soon be feeling okay, back on track and then I could drop the drug.
Tapering up – hallucinations were the most disturbing thing for me. I felt rubbish anyway so I didn't complain, I told my GP at the time but he was not concerned. I heard voices regularly but it was the spiders… oh my the spiders, they were enormous!! Casually watching the television with my husband and they would appear, begin multiplying and dropping off the TV onto the floor… running around the walls etc… luckily I am not scared of spiders… but my husband is (lol). I began to realise it was all in my head and didn't vocalise when I saw them after a while (for the sake of my husband!).

Tapering down I have come to realise, is not nice at all! I read something similar a little further back, given we are in this awful situation where we have to isolate, I too am working from home. I thought what better time than to finally drop this this last 37.5mg? I must say that I went cold turkey about 2 years ago when I couldn't get hold of my prescription and I literally thought I was dying, Monday couldn't come soon enough for me to replenish and within a couple of hours of taking the drug I felt vaguely 'normal' again! That is when I realised I needed to get off this nastiness that is keeping me on an even keel, I didn't want to have to rely on a drug that could make me feel so bad if I didn't get it, it didn't feel right, I wanted out.
With support from my GP I have tapered since. I was at 37.5mg for about 6 months, I wanted out but I was scared because I knew what was coming. Nevertheless, this time is right and I am day 5 of no drug… whoop… I feel proud that I have gotten this far! The constant nausea, diarrhoea, fogginess; the scary brain zaps, lack of sleep and crying over the slightest of things (happy or sad) are becoming unbearable. I've worked out, based on the half life, how long it would take for the drug to be negligible in my blood plasma and the calculation tells me 3 days tops, it's not the reality though, and you guys have articulated that too clearly also… I think it's making me anxious at the thought.

I can't give up, I won't give up… I can do this (I keep telling myself)… I just hope these effects don't last months like some posts I have read. I have read elsewhere that Benadryl (antihistamine) helps with the symptoms, I looked up a scientific paper and read how it contradicts Venlafaxine, hence why you should never use it whilst taking the antidepressant… I'm going to give it a go, along with the vitamins and omega supplements mentioned earlier in the thread. Thank you so much for the release in words, it really helps. Good luck in your journey everyone, and stay safe xxx

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Hi and welcome.
Don’t give up, it may get a little worse before it gets better, you are doing great!

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@hwilson7

My bad test results a month ago indicated that my liver was suffering damage from medication and was triggering autoimmune hepatitis. I’ve been reducing my medications ever since. I take a series of supplements and vitamins to help me get off the 375mg Effexor XR I’ve been taking for 12 years. I would recommend that anyone following this protocol take the supplements and vitamins for a month before trying to reduce your Effexor; also, make sure you are doing so under a doctor’s supervision in case there are any reactions to the supplements. Lastly, this protocol has helped me avoid any physical symptoms of withdrawal. It is important to be aware of emotional symptoms when coming off antidepressants. If you start having intense emotional symptoms, contact your doctor immediately.

I have been reducing my Effexor by 75mg every 4-5days. It has always been beneficial for me to split my dose throughout the day. In other words, if I am taking 300mg, I take 150mg morning and night to keep the dose steady throughout the day. Now that I am taking 37.5mg, I am taking the dose only in the morning. I have only a few more days at 37.5mg before I come off the drug completely. I am also following the Paleo diet (recommended by my doctor for the autoimmune hepatitis) and exercise with cardio and weight training 4-5 times per week.

This is my daily medication protocol as of today:
Morning (taken first thing in the morning without food)
1 cap Vitamin D3 1000 UI
1 cap L-Tyrosine 750mg (to boost dopamine production in the brain)
2 cap probiotics (I take Dr. Tobias Deep Immune Probiotics, 4.4 billion)
1 cap Vitamin B6 100mg (to assist the L-Tyrosine)
1 cap Effexor 37.5mg

Night (taken at least one hour before bedtime)
1 cap L-Tryptophan 500mg (to boost serotonin production in the brain)
2 cap Omega 3 Fish Oil (I take Dr. Tobias Omega 3 2000mg Fish Oil w/ 1400mg Omega 3s – 800mg EPA, 600mg DHA)
2 cap Choline/Inositol 500mg/500mg (more a supplement for my Paleo diet, but I wanted to include it here as well)
1 cap Viatmin B6 100mg (to assist the L-Tryptophan)
1 cap multivitamin (I take Centrum Woman as it contains iodine for healthy thyroid support)

To assist with any anxiety, I have a prescription for 25mg Seroquel to use on an as-needed basis. I have only been needing the Seroquel rarely but when I do take it, I take it right before bedtime. I purchased all the supplements and vitamins from Amazon as they had the best selection and fastest shipping. I hope this information is helpful. I came up with this list through research into reducing Effexor and looking at supplements that can help boost neurotransmitters in the brain. If there are any questions about this series of supplements that I am taking, please message me or reply and let me know. Thanks.

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I also managed to slowly taper off, from the highest dose you can be prescribed down to 35.7 being the smallest amount you can take (without splitting pills)
The tapering process was a breeze. Because of venlafaxines half life, coming off the last 35.7 is usually the hardest and has the most side effects. Your brain goes from having 35.7 to NOTHING and that's when it got really tough for me. I'm on day 6 or 7 of being off venlafaxine completely. Almost straight away I started getting the vertigo and brain zaps. Day 4 was the worst for this and fatigue. Today I have flu like symptoms but it does seem the brain zaps arent as full on as they have been.. or theres less vertigo accompanying the brain zaps. It's seriously hard work, if we weren't in a nationwide lockdown due to covid-19 I would have definitely needed to take a week off work. No way i could function at that level as I go through this.

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I also managed to slowly taper off, from the highest dose you can be prescribed down to 35.7 being the smallest amount you can take (without splitting pills)
The tapering process was a breeze. Because of venlafaxines half life, coming off the last 35.7 is usually the hardest and has the most side effects. Your brain goes from having 35.7 to NOTHING and that's when it got really tough for me. I'm on day 6 or 7 of being off venlafaxine completely. Almost straight away I started getting the vertigo and brain zaps. Day 4 was the worst for this and fatigue. Today I have flu like symptoms but it does seem the brain zaps arent as full on as they have been.. or theres less vertigo accompanying the brain zaps. It's seriously hard work, if we weren't in a nationwide lockdown due to covid-19 I would have definitely needed to take a week off work. No way i could function at that level as I go through this.

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@kirsty29
Good morning,
I'm curious after your withdrawal symptoms started why didn't you go back to the 37.5 for a while then taper by counting out x number of beads every so often? The probability of having withdrawal symptoms likely would have been significantly reduced if any at all. Both the length of time you were on this medication and your dose are important factors when calculating a taper.
Jake

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I also managed to slowly taper off, from the highest dose you can be prescribed down to 35.7 being the smallest amount you can take (without splitting pills)
The tapering process was a breeze. Because of venlafaxines half life, coming off the last 35.7 is usually the hardest and has the most side effects. Your brain goes from having 35.7 to NOTHING and that's when it got really tough for me. I'm on day 6 or 7 of being off venlafaxine completely. Almost straight away I started getting the vertigo and brain zaps. Day 4 was the worst for this and fatigue. Today I have flu like symptoms but it does seem the brain zaps arent as full on as they have been.. or theres less vertigo accompanying the brain zaps. It's seriously hard work, if we weren't in a nationwide lockdown due to covid-19 I would have definitely needed to take a week off work. No way i could function at that level as I go through this.

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It sounds like your journey to come off Venlafaxine has mirrored mine, admittedly I didn't start at the same high dose as yourself but I too stopped at 37.5mg and then nothing. I am on day 7 today without the drug and I feel like I have come out the other side… the flu symptoms have disappeared, I am sleeping better (already!), the sweating is easing, as are the nightmares. The most uncomfortable effects for me have been dizziness, brain zaps, nausea and diarrhoea… today I have no nausea or diarrhoea, the brain zaps are there but they are becoming less noticeable; I do still feel the same amount of dizziness but I can cope with that, I am working from home, don't need to drive and so I am happy to sit this one out until it ebbs.

@jakedduck1 – may I offer my reasons for not tapering past 37.5mg. Like @kirsty29 I am taking the tablet form of Venlafaxine (sorry if I have interpreted this incorrectly), this is the lowest possible therapeutic form of the drug unless you wanted to split the drug; there isn't the opportunity to count beads unless one switches to the capsule form. This was offered to me as an alternative but my reasons for the choices I made were as follows…
I wanted to drop the drug entirely over the shortest time possible, my GP said I could do this at 37.5mg without relapse of depressive symptoms… bear in mind I had been at this dose for at least 6 months, my GP left it up to me for when I was ready. He did offer to switch me to the capsule form so I could count beads but, my main question to him was, is this likely to prolong the withdrawal symptoms I am likely to feel?… he said yes… that was enough for me not to do it. I knew there were going to be unbearable withdrawal symptoms, I was prepared for lying in bed for days if necessary, I just wanted it to last for the least amount of time possible.

Here I am on day 7 and I feel like the worst is over; I can live with the symptoms I have for weeks / months if necessary. I feel so proud of myself, I feel like I have done it already and the clarity of mind I am experiencing right now is something I haven't felt since taking the drug. I naively thought at the start of this journey that, based on the half life of the drug, I should be home free after 3 days – tops – how wrong was I? Nevertheless, on day 7 I feel like there is light at the end of the tunnel, I am closer to normal now than I have felt in a long time, I feel hopeful… the end is near xxx

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@jolyall

It sounds like your journey to come off Venlafaxine has mirrored mine, admittedly I didn't start at the same high dose as yourself but I too stopped at 37.5mg and then nothing. I am on day 7 today without the drug and I feel like I have come out the other side… the flu symptoms have disappeared, I am sleeping better (already!), the sweating is easing, as are the nightmares. The most uncomfortable effects for me have been dizziness, brain zaps, nausea and diarrhoea… today I have no nausea or diarrhoea, the brain zaps are there but they are becoming less noticeable; I do still feel the same amount of dizziness but I can cope with that, I am working from home, don't need to drive and so I am happy to sit this one out until it ebbs.

@jakedduck1 – may I offer my reasons for not tapering past 37.5mg. Like @kirsty29 I am taking the tablet form of Venlafaxine (sorry if I have interpreted this incorrectly), this is the lowest possible therapeutic form of the drug unless you wanted to split the drug; there isn't the opportunity to count beads unless one switches to the capsule form. This was offered to me as an alternative but my reasons for the choices I made were as follows…
I wanted to drop the drug entirely over the shortest time possible, my GP said I could do this at 37.5mg without relapse of depressive symptoms… bear in mind I had been at this dose for at least 6 months, my GP left it up to me for when I was ready. He did offer to switch me to the capsule form so I could count beads but, my main question to him was, is this likely to prolong the withdrawal symptoms I am likely to feel?… he said yes… that was enough for me not to do it. I knew there were going to be unbearable withdrawal symptoms, I was prepared for lying in bed for days if necessary, I just wanted it to last for the least amount of time possible.

Here I am on day 7 and I feel like the worst is over; I can live with the symptoms I have for weeks / months if necessary. I feel so proud of myself, I feel like I have done it already and the clarity of mind I am experiencing right now is something I haven't felt since taking the drug. I naively thought at the start of this journey that, based on the half life of the drug, I should be home free after 3 days – tops – how wrong was I? Nevertheless, on day 7 I feel like there is light at the end of the tunnel, I am closer to normal now than I have felt in a long time, I feel hopeful… the end is near xxx

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Not to be a downer just be prepared for recurring withdrawal symptoms. You may experience protracted withdrawal know as waves and windows. Hopefully it will go smoothly for you!

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@kirsty29

I also managed to slowly taper off, from the highest dose you can be prescribed down to 35.7 being the smallest amount you can take (without splitting pills)
The tapering process was a breeze. Because of venlafaxines half life, coming off the last 35.7 is usually the hardest and has the most side effects. Your brain goes from having 35.7 to NOTHING and that's when it got really tough for me. I'm on day 6 or 7 of being off venlafaxine completely. Almost straight away I started getting the vertigo and brain zaps. Day 4 was the worst for this and fatigue. Today I have flu like symptoms but it does seem the brain zaps arent as full on as they have been.. or theres less vertigo accompanying the brain zaps. It's seriously hard work, if we weren't in a nationwide lockdown due to covid-19 I would have definitely needed to take a week off work. No way i could function at that level as I go through this.

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How come you didn’t open the capsule and count beads? It would be easier on ya… but glad you’re hanging in there. I predict you’re going to be successful!

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6 weeks without medication now. I don’t have any physical symptoms anymore. My mental is still very unstable though. I’m anxious, paranoid, uncertain and stressed. This whole Corona situation making it very tough to stabilise the conditions mentioned above.
I’m in the psychiatric hospital (willingly) again where they’ve prescribed me Ven 3 years ago.
Today the doc suggested me to take some Duloxetine to get my shit a little together.
Yep they wanna put me on meds again. I’m not “forced” to take any, but certainly you feel that the docs don’t really consider the difficulty of tapering that poison off, short term solution in a capsule is all they can offer.

The last 3 weeks I’ve been taking Amino acids to help normalising the levels of neurotransmitters, have been eating Walnuts like crazy (because of Omega-3) and did spend at least 30 minutes under the sun daily. I’m trying to stick to a routine, trying to keep a healthy day rhythm, but the condition does not improve dramatically.

Do I need more patience? If so then how long?

I’m just overloaded with anxiety, frustration and self hate.

Could someone give me any practical suggestions before I give up on everything and go on SNRIs again. Thank you. Thank you everyone for being there and your advices. Stay safe.

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All I can offer is my personal experience. After a TBI in August, 2008 I was on three brain drugs at the same time, Paxil (I’d been on that for about 10 yrs before the TBI), they added Celexa and Remeron. They messed me up so much I quit them all cold turkey, I got through the withdrawal without too much difficulty. Then some of the same stuff you mention started to take over my life. I went to a new Psychiatrist and he started me on Paxil again since I had tolerated it for so long without a problem. That was 2010, I started out on a very low dose and by 2016 I was on the maximum dosage of 60 mg, I’ve been on that dosage ever since. In Sept.,2018 I started taking Omega-3 as part of a 6 month Mayo Clinic exercise research study. I’ve continued the Omega-3 as I did during the study (same brand and dosage.) Then in August, 2019 my brain made a distinct change, for the better. I have never felt better in my life, my days are very calm and relaxed, even with this Covid-19 going on I am a calm, cool and collected guy! These are the only medications I take now. I am not sure if the Omega-3 had anything to do with the brain change, but I am thinking it did.

What I am saying here is this: I will never be off Paxil and Omega-3 as long as I live, they work very well for me and I will not mess with this. I am 69 and have had anxiety issues for as long as I can remember, today I have none. Keep searching for what works for you, if it is a drug then so be it, nothing wrong with that, we are all so unique there is no „one size fits all“ to this deal.

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@chicago1211

6 weeks without medication now. I don’t have any physical symptoms anymore. My mental is still very unstable though. I’m anxious, paranoid, uncertain and stressed. This whole Corona situation making it very tough to stabilise the conditions mentioned above.
I’m in the psychiatric hospital (willingly) again where they’ve prescribed me Ven 3 years ago.
Today the doc suggested me to take some Duloxetine to get my shit a little together.
Yep they wanna put me on meds again. I’m not “forced” to take any, but certainly you feel that the docs don’t really consider the difficulty of tapering that poison off, short term solution in a capsule is all they can offer.

The last 3 weeks I’ve been taking Amino acids to help normalising the levels of neurotransmitters, have been eating Walnuts like crazy (because of Omega-3) and did spend at least 30 minutes under the sun daily. I’m trying to stick to a routine, trying to keep a healthy day rhythm, but the condition does not improve dramatically.

Do I need more patience? If so then how long?

I’m just overloaded with anxiety, frustration and self hate.

Could someone give me any practical suggestions before I give up on everything and go on SNRIs again. Thank you. Thank you everyone for being there and your advices. Stay safe.

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Chicago, I think you're on the right track! But the Biggest thing I've learned in the past several years with Lyme Disease is PATIENCE!!
With what is going on in the World right now it is very difficult! Being self employed just adds to my anxiety!
There was an article in this Tuesday's Albuquerque Journal by a writer named Sunny Fitzgerald. It was entitled "Don't feel like'getting things done'. I went on line and you can find it uner her name a title. It's an article that everyone should read in this time of "distress"! What we are going through right now is like something that has never been experienced in our Lifetime! I am not for staarting my Life over after 73 years, but it does help me deal with my anxiety!
Hang in there and give it a shot!
Richard(Sundance)

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