Tips on minimising withdrawal symptoms from Effexor (aka Venlafaxine)

Posted by richyrich @richyrich, Nov 2, 2016

I have been taking Effexor/Venlafaxine for years and tried to get off it a few times but each time I try to give up the chemical withdrawal symptoms are a horror story and I give up giving up. Anyone got any tips or tried and tested strategies? Thank you

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@andrewnielsen

That advice is no good. The withdrawal is from the last little bit of the Efexor being metabolised really quickly. So, tapering will not help. Instead, overlap your last three Efexor tablets (37.5 or 75 mg, which ever is the lowest you tolerate) And then stop them both, or stay on the Prozac if you prefer. No more withdrawal symptoms at al. The Prozac inhibits the metabolism of the Effexor, you see.

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Can you explain what you mean by overlapping?

I think its wonderful that we can share so many different methods of healing here. I understand the sacred use of plant medicine, but are you at all concerned about the hallucinagetic and possible addictive effects of them? Just curious. I've done sweat lodges before, but have never felt comfortable with psychoactive substances, I'm 23 years sober.

@rainswuth

Can you explain what you mean by overlapping?

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@rainswuth
If you click on @andrewnielsen, you'll see that he only posted once on 5/20/17.

@sandij

I think its wonderful that we can share so many different methods of healing here. I understand the sacred use of plant medicine, but are you at all concerned about the hallucinagetic and possible addictive effects of them? Just curious. I've done sweat lodges before, but have never felt comfortable with psychoactive substances, I'm 23 years sober.

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Wow, 23 years sober, my hat is off to you. I was an addiction nurse for 6 years. I honor you….
At 68 years old, the only addiction I have is cigarettes. I practiced drinking in my adult life but never learned it. I have an occasional honey shot but nothing more than that.
Truthfully, I see no personal challenges with anyone abusing the peyote at ceremony. It is regulated by the government, and prior to each Ceremony the county prosecuter is notified there will be a ceremony. This makes it legal on a state level but not Federal. We would have to have a federally recognised Indian reservation for it to be legal on a federal level.
The entrance to the land is blocked prior to the start of the ceremony so folks won't go driving under the influence.
I first heard of these ceremonies in 2014. Hippy crap I declared it. This went on month after month, for at least a year.
Then the same folks came in and said exactly the same things as every other month, but this time something opened in me. I was going!
I am so glad I listened because the peyote and the Ayaskaha have helped me to completely finish my healing.
I should say, while I have smoked weed, I never cared to try any other substance cuz I get high on life. I hope this answers your question.
Bright Wings

@brightwings

In order for the sacred plant medicine to assist you in your healing, you need an intention or goal. Then the plant medicine helps you achieve it.
Last month My intention was to get rid of resentments I realized I was still holding..my life as I knew it blew up!!!
My life was suddenly in such turmoil. 2 of my children came to attack me with all their entitlement issues.
Only I knew the childhood they grew up with cuz my husband and I provided it. And also consistantly provided a safe place for all the other children in the neighborhood.
My son, to be fair to him, was hit by the addiction genes from both sides of the family. He was a heroin addict for 11 years.
We finally had to throw him out of our home at 29.
He now lives with a woman, a multi millionaire in CA who is 6 years younger than me.
I raised my kids to live their own lives. They had a good solid loving home.
There is no way I am choosing to deal with their entitlement issues.
I am firm on this.
So my intention this month is to allow the sacred plant medicine to find me an affordable, nice place to live….hopefully this will settle my life down.
I always warn…be careful what you ask for because the sacred plant medicine will try its best to assist you.
Last year, march, I pointed to the BEST female butt and said I wanted mine to look like that one…last month, I canceled that order…I didn't realize I was pointing to a 90 pound woman. I was about 180 at the time.
The pesticides almost did me in twice. Full blown COPD and then the cold in this house.
Right now I have managed to get back up to 162 pounds. It has been hard work to regain those pounds from 140 in early December.
Ok, that's my story and I am sticking to it. Bright Wings

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@brightwings– That must have been tough to throw your son out, even if you had to. Tough love reflects the name chosen to describe this. May I direct this conversation to the depression and anxiety group so others can benefit from you experience?
With so many posts and groups, keeping things separated helps mentors and moderators respond to people more easily! Please help us out this way.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/depression-anxiety/

@merpreb

@brightwings– That must have been tough to throw your son out, even if you had to. Tough love reflects the name chosen to describe this. May I direct this conversation to the depression and anxiety group so others can benefit from you experience?
With so many posts and groups, keeping things separated helps mentors and moderators respond to people more easily! Please help us out this way.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/depression-anxiety/

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Merry, I respect what you are saying. My life experiences and my recovery from my life has given me the ability to help many people who are struggling with life.
I adopted a ME FIRST POLICY a couple of months ago and I am sticking to it.
Bright Wings.
Now if you want to point folks my way to read my healing methods, hey, that's great.
I actually would like to start a different thread with my healing tips but again, with no way to copy and paste, its not possible to start. If this changes in the future, I will jump right in and copy and paste away.
But at this point Reguarding energy, I do not give what I do not have.
Since you have been on chemo, I know you understand this. At this point, I am respectfully going to tell you I don't have the time or energy to rewrite so many things in so many different places. I do not have internet, only my phone. So I can not copy and paste.
Right now I am fiercely guarding how much energy I have and I also guard how I use it because of my MS.

Wow, my anxiety is thru the roof today. With my CBD dosage cut by 3/4 because of availability, its huge today.
I have been low key shivering for 3 days (pesticides?) but chose to keep myself busy while monitoring it. I see the sweating is coming back today also. Today, I will be applying antiperspirant again to my palms and other places.
Hmmm, as I feel my waist again, I see I have dropped weight again. And I am eating so much food daily.
So, I am suiting up into my 5 layers of clothes again. I will monitor more as I go thru the day. My labs were mostly normal when I went to the ER…..hanging in there, Bright Wings

@brightwings– That sounds dreadful. I actually felt like that yesterday. I think that talking about your history yesterday might have triggered some of the anxiety. Hopefully it will dwindle in a few days or less. Delivering your bread?

@brightwings thanks for your answer. Interesting. Hope you do better today. Listening to Wonderbro has been helping me greatly with my anxiety yesterday and today and I am continuing to learn to accept my feelings and not follow my thoughts. Great stuff.

@merpreb

@brightwings– That sounds dreadful. I actually felt like that yesterday. I think that talking about your history yesterday might have triggered some of the anxiety. Hopefully it will dwindle in a few days or less. Delivering your bread?

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@merpreb
No, speaking about my issues does not give me anxiety cuz I beat those suckers.
This anxiety has been an ongoing challenge since I got off effexor. Last dose was jan, 2018.
I believe the first step in handling anxiety is to recognize it then do something. My anxiety was well controlled with CBD, 2400 mg a month. This month I could only get 600 mg because of availability.
So my action today is to drive an hour each way to the social security office to get my original disability papers and 3 1099's. The disability documents will give me 60% off and my CBD will be shipped directly to my home each month. The 1099's will give me a nice chunk of change for my deposits on my new place to rent. It seems when you hit 65 and are renting, you can apply to have portion of the tax dollars the owner paid returned to you. I have 3 years I can turn in but need the 1099's first.
It got cold here again and the temp will be 38 tonight. So that cold be part of it again. I have one heater going and will pull out the second one before I leave to go to the SS office.
Smiling and looking forward to this beautiful drive I have in front of me with all the plants, trees and lilacs in full bloom. Bright wings….

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@sandij

@brightwings thanks for your answer. Interesting. Hope you do better today. Listening to Wonderbro has been helping me greatly with my anxiety yesterday and today and I am continuing to learn to accept my feelings and not follow my thoughts. Great stuff.

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I will Definately check them out. Thank you…Bright Wings
Oh I did remember one instance of the peyote being abused. A guy was talking to himself strangely one ceremony. I noticed a soda bottle in his hands…it was 3/4 full of peyote and he had been refilling this bottle. Since then the peyote has been guarded so this can't happen again.

@sandij

@brightwings thanks for your answer. Interesting. Hope you do better today. Listening to Wonderbro has been helping me greatly with my anxiety yesterday and today and I am continuing to learn to accept my feelings and not follow my thoughts. Great stuff.

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@sandij
Good for you. I will check them out.
Bright Wings

@brightwings

@merpreb
No, speaking about my issues does not give me anxiety cuz I beat those suckers.
This anxiety has been an ongoing challenge since I got off effexor. Last dose was jan, 2018.
I believe the first step in handling anxiety is to recognize it then do something. My anxiety was well controlled with CBD, 2400 mg a month. This month I could only get 600 mg because of availability.
So my action today is to drive an hour each way to the social security office to get my original disability papers and 3 1099's. The disability documents will give me 60% off and my CBD will be shipped directly to my home each month. The 1099's will give me a nice chunk of change for my deposits on my new place to rent. It seems when you hit 65 and are renting, you can apply to have portion of the tax dollars the owner paid returned to you. I have 3 years I can turn in but need the 1099's first.
It got cold here again and the temp will be 38 tonight. So that cold be part of it again. I have one heater going and will pull out the second one before I leave to go to the SS office.
Smiling and looking forward to this beautiful drive I have in front of me with all the plants, trees and lilacs in full bloom. Bright wings….

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Mission accomplished. I had a great day, spent time with an old boyfriend and he went with me and took me to lunch. It was a beautiful day all together. I feel peaceful but tired.
Bright Wings

@brightwings

Mission accomplished. I had a great day, spent time with an old boyfriend and he went with me and took me to lunch. It was a beautiful day all together. I feel peaceful but tired.
Bright Wings

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I am so happy for you!
That kind of tired is a great kind of tired!
Wishing you more days like today!
Ronnie

Ok, I am starting to prepare to leave for my ceremony, tribe and family. I have decided not to camp for the night. 47 degrees is too cold for these old bones…
My intention for today is
1 To find a nice, affordable place to live with all my belongings intact
2. Decrease anxiety
3. Have a peaceful month
4. Assist me in relearning my mandolin chords and how to strum the different rhythms again.
5. Decrease MS relapse.
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You all have a great day cuz I know I am going to. Bright Wings

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