Strange neurological symptoms - myoclonic jerks

Posted by Nikkyuze @nikkyuze, Mar 31, 2018

I am a 35 year old female and for the last few months I have been having myoclonic like jerks. The only problem is I don’t have them only when I’m falling asleep. I have jerks in my hands, neck, body etc. any time I’m tired. My hands will trimble and jerk almost to the point I can’t use them. My legs jerk head to the side etc. Even my son notices me jerking when we sit together on the couch in the evening watching tv and he’s 8. He asked me why I was jerking so much. I also have myoclonic jerks when I’m falling asleep. Also I am tired a lot so tired I could almost fall asleep standing up. It is almost impossible to keep myself awake. The worst times are early in the mornings between 8 and 11 and early evening between 6 and 8. Then I can’t sleep. I am up half the night sometimes until 330 am. Also when I’m driving my brain will just zone out. I half to shake my head to refocus or pinch myself. I don’t know what the problem could be and I dislike going to neurologists.

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@oakbourne

This has nothing to do with emotions or troubles in your life. This is a brain disease. The basal ganglia of my brain is putting out too much aceytcolene, a neurotransmitter where your nerves talk to your muscles. I know this disease like the back of the hand. Stress can aggravate Dystonia, but does not cause this condition. Mine is hereditary. My mother had dystonia along with 10 of my uncles, aunts and cousins who suffer from this disease!

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I was told that Lupus caused the damage to my basal ganglia. But I’m not convinced. 4 Botox injections and 6 oral meds have failed. Meanwhile lupus is well controlled.

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I haven't heard about Lupus causing brain damage to your basal ganglia.

I am getting buzzing in my ears from either extreme diabetic lows and seizures. I also had seizures from Celiac because I didn't know what was happening. I am glad you are taking care of yourself , because GOD gave us only one body. I do a lot of praying and it helps. Thanks for reaching out to me. Dorothy

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@oakbourne

I haven't heard about Lupus causing brain damage to your basal ganglia.

I am getting buzzing in my ears from either extreme diabetic lows and seizures. I also had seizures from Celiac because I didn't know what was happening. I am glad you are taking care of yourself , because GOD gave us only one body. I do a lot of praying and it helps. Thanks for reaching out to me. Dorothy

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So sorry to hear what you are going through. I pray for all. I have SS. It is also a very serious neurological condition.

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@stevegrinstead

So sorry to hear what you are going through. I pray for all. I have SS. It is also a very serious neurological condition.

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Hi again, what is SS? I deplore neurological problems. I have Spasmodic Torticollis and when I see someone in the South with this disease, I am related to them. Sam Elliott, the actor has ST, and we're related. Thanks, Dorothy

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@oakbourne

Hi again, what is SS? I deplore neurological problems. I have Spasmodic Torticollis and when I see someone in the South with this disease, I am related to them. Sam Elliott, the actor has ST, and we're related. Thanks, Dorothy

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SS is superficial siderosis. Google that. Mayo helped me, but the operation only slowed down the progression. Go to Mayo Clinic/Steve Grinstead for my story.

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Having same actions I am so tired and wore out it also happens whn I sleep or lay down same feel about nero have a inherited condition hemochromtosis do not know if that is the cause anyway trying to rest more ans whats next scarey Barb Baker

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@pollysparrow

Having same actions I am so tired and wore out it also happens whn I sleep or lay down same feel about nero have a inherited condition hemochromtosis do not know if that is the cause anyway trying to rest more ans whats next scarey Barb Baker

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Please check for SS

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Paresthesia Internal Vibrations Moyclonic Jerks Help!
Hi. I'm desperate for some advice since I feel like I might die next time I fall asleep. Have only had some tingling in legs and seat area when having stomach pain and eating Prilosec for last couple of years. This fall I got pain that I thought was esophagus and ate Nexium 40mg for 35 days. Pain did not go away and one day I got like and electrical current between shoulder blades and suddenly my whole back started tingling. It spread up my spine and neck, behind my nose. Then I got tingling in my tongue, and lips. Next couple of days it spread to my cheeks and up to my eyebrows and front side of my body. (The back side was affected from day1) . I could not eat without terrible nausea but no vomiting.
Had extreme shortness of breath and had to lay down. When trying to sleep the horror began. As soon as I slipped into sleep I would get a dark wave of buzzing in my head and I would wake up with pulsating tingling in both neck muscles and spine, and behind my nose.
My sinuses felt like the had pressure and my gums were tingling. This was paired with total body tingling and internal vibrations in abdomen. Next days I woke up with my lips visibly trembling or my tounge visibly trembling or my jaw would spasm and my neck would jerk. Then came back jerks. Jerking head sideways or jerking back. Right hand trembling when gripping something. Right leg won't quite follow. I have been inside a living nightmare since December 2022. I've been to 2 primary docs. Didn't jerk then
and they did not take me seriously. Went to ER while jerking. They did ct without contrast only found age related vascular changes nothing else (I'm 60). Paid for mri abdomen and brain out of pocket since docs did not take me seriously. They found nothing to explain seizures.
Been trying to find a neurologist before I die but it's impossible in Sweden without referral. I've not been up more than 20 min at a time for 8 weeks.Also heart flutters and pulse is 100 or more when up) Shortness of breath got better last 3 days but every single time I fall asleep my condition deteriorates. First my lips tingle then I jerk head, back or legs . Then various myscle twitches everywhere and in face. If I manage to fall asleep I wake up with entire body tingling burning intensively including face. Horrible pressure on upper arms and thighs like they were constricted. Sweating, face flushing.
I hurry up and measure oxigen it's 96 percent. I've had no loss of skin sensation, no loss of reflexes or muscle strength so far except my hand and face twitch when tensing muscles. A heavy feeling in the back of my head like a lump and pressure behind sinuses. Pain if I press the area between nose and forehead. No congestion but intense ringing in ears. If I turn head side to side quickly it's like a dull sound, pressure and things get a lot worse. Constant body tingling and internal vibrations but when I sleep it gets so intense and burning it's like someone has taken a belt and cut off bloodsupply to upper arms, thighs and face while the rest of the body has tingling.
My lips tremble when chewing.
My whole chest vibrates when I speak and I get nauseated.
So my brain shuts down somehow when I sleep and Im so terribly afraid of these seizures and paresthesias. It started like guillain Barre or tranverse myelitis but since I have no weekness and no loss of reflexes and crp is 5 so no inflammation markers that doesn't match either. I can't have brain or spinal inflammation can I? even though that's what it feels like since I have this preaussure in my head. Or vascultis that attacks sinuses but crp is normal. Please does anybody know what kind of brain injury gets worse when you sleep. I've just layed here for 9 weeks trying to get help but Healthcare system is terrible in Sweden and I can't access a neorogist. I'm just laying here waiting to either die or get bad enough that it shows to ambulance staff. Ive called 3 times since December they have refused to take me in and when a neighbor took me to ER while jerking they still sent me home after ct scan. I can't get them to understand that the damage happens when I sleep and I honestly think I will die soon if I don't get help. It's getting harder to come back to consciousness after sleeping.

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@tinatoren

Paresthesia Internal Vibrations Moyclonic Jerks Help!
Hi. I'm desperate for some advice since I feel like I might die next time I fall asleep. Have only had some tingling in legs and seat area when having stomach pain and eating Prilosec for last couple of years. This fall I got pain that I thought was esophagus and ate Nexium 40mg for 35 days. Pain did not go away and one day I got like and electrical current between shoulder blades and suddenly my whole back started tingling. It spread up my spine and neck, behind my nose. Then I got tingling in my tongue, and lips. Next couple of days it spread to my cheeks and up to my eyebrows and front side of my body. (The back side was affected from day1) . I could not eat without terrible nausea but no vomiting.
Had extreme shortness of breath and had to lay down. When trying to sleep the horror began. As soon as I slipped into sleep I would get a dark wave of buzzing in my head and I would wake up with pulsating tingling in both neck muscles and spine, and behind my nose.
My sinuses felt like the had pressure and my gums were tingling. This was paired with total body tingling and internal vibrations in abdomen. Next days I woke up with my lips visibly trembling or my tounge visibly trembling or my jaw would spasm and my neck would jerk. Then came back jerks. Jerking head sideways or jerking back. Right hand trembling when gripping something. Right leg won't quite follow. I have been inside a living nightmare since December 2022. I've been to 2 primary docs. Didn't jerk then
and they did not take me seriously. Went to ER while jerking. They did ct without contrast only found age related vascular changes nothing else (I'm 60). Paid for mri abdomen and brain out of pocket since docs did not take me seriously. They found nothing to explain seizures.
Been trying to find a neurologist before I die but it's impossible in Sweden without referral. I've not been up more than 20 min at a time for 8 weeks.Also heart flutters and pulse is 100 or more when up) Shortness of breath got better last 3 days but every single time I fall asleep my condition deteriorates. First my lips tingle then I jerk head, back or legs . Then various myscle twitches everywhere and in face. If I manage to fall asleep I wake up with entire body tingling burning intensively including face. Horrible pressure on upper arms and thighs like they were constricted. Sweating, face flushing.
I hurry up and measure oxigen it's 96 percent. I've had no loss of skin sensation, no loss of reflexes or muscle strength so far except my hand and face twitch when tensing muscles. A heavy feeling in the back of my head like a lump and pressure behind sinuses. Pain if I press the area between nose and forehead. No congestion but intense ringing in ears. If I turn head side to side quickly it's like a dull sound, pressure and things get a lot worse. Constant body tingling and internal vibrations but when I sleep it gets so intense and burning it's like someone has taken a belt and cut off bloodsupply to upper arms, thighs and face while the rest of the body has tingling.
My lips tremble when chewing.
My whole chest vibrates when I speak and I get nauseated.
So my brain shuts down somehow when I sleep and Im so terribly afraid of these seizures and paresthesias. It started like guillain Barre or tranverse myelitis but since I have no weekness and no loss of reflexes and crp is 5 so no inflammation markers that doesn't match either. I can't have brain or spinal inflammation can I? even though that's what it feels like since I have this preaussure in my head. Or vascultis that attacks sinuses but crp is normal. Please does anybody know what kind of brain injury gets worse when you sleep. I've just layed here for 9 weeks trying to get help but Healthcare system is terrible in Sweden and I can't access a neorogist. I'm just laying here waiting to either die or get bad enough that it shows to ambulance staff. Ive called 3 times since December they have refused to take me in and when a neighbor took me to ER while jerking they still sent me home after ct scan. I can't get them to understand that the damage happens when I sleep and I honestly think I will die soon if I don't get help. It's getting harder to come back to consciousness after sleeping.

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Hello @tinatoren and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. I am so sorry to read all of what you have been going through. To feel this way must be scary and when you don't feel like you are being taken seriously by your healthcare providers, that can only make things worse.

I have moved both of your posts into an existing discussion on this same topic, which you can find here:
- Strange neurological symptoms - myoclonic jerks: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/strange-neurological-symptoms/

Members such as @stevegrinstead @pollysparrow and @oakbourne may be able to come in and share their experience with you.

I want to start by asking if you've had any blood tests done to check, for example, your magnesium levels? Low magnesium can present as weakness, muscle cramps or twitching, or an abnormal heartbeat. There are some at home blood tests that may be available to you in Sweden in getting this done in hospital isn't an option.

Also, what have the doctors who have seen you recommended to you as next steps?

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@amandajro

Hello @tinatoren and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. I am so sorry to read all of what you have been going through. To feel this way must be scary and when you don't feel like you are being taken seriously by your healthcare providers, that can only make things worse.

I have moved both of your posts into an existing discussion on this same topic, which you can find here:
- Strange neurological symptoms - myoclonic jerks: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/strange-neurological-symptoms/

Members such as @stevegrinstead @pollysparrow and @oakbourne may be able to come in and share their experience with you.

I want to start by asking if you've had any blood tests done to check, for example, your magnesium levels? Low magnesium can present as weakness, muscle cramps or twitching, or an abnormal heartbeat. There are some at home blood tests that may be available to you in Sweden in getting this done in hospital isn't an option.

Also, what have the doctors who have seen you recommended to you as next steps?

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There’s no cure for SS. I have decided to do the best that I can for as long as I can. Please go to Mayo Clinic/Steve GRINSTEAD. Minor corrections, the operation was 8 hours not 4.also, I never went back for follow up. Please go to “Dr. Google.” Type in “superficial siderosis.” Siderosis will be underlined in red as if you misspelled it. Keep going. 

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