Small Fiber Neuropathy: What helps?

Posted by lisadog33 @lisadog33, Mar 28, 2017

I have been diagnosed with Small Fiber Neuropathy. My problem is this. Since before they diagnosed me, I was having other symptoms that I thought were not related including loss of appetite/weight loss, bladder control, bowel control, problem with eyesight at times, tremors, sleep issues among some other things. I was told by my Neurologist that those things are not related to small fiber neuropathy but when I look it up, it says it can affect your autonomic nervous system. What is the truth. I am having a heck of a time with bladder and bowel issues as well as either sleeping through the alarm or not sleeping at all. I hope someone can shed some light on this for me. Thank you.

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Welcome @simina1234, When I was first diagnosed with small fiber PN I looked into the infrared therapy but was concerned about the cost of the treatments with no end in sight or guarantees so decided against it. I also saw something similar I thought might be helpful but have not tried it. There are a couple of discussions you might find helpful to learn what others have found helpful.

-- Member Neuropathy Journey Stories: What's Yours?: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/member-neuoropathy-journey-stories-whats-yours/
-- Infrared Sauna Treatment for PN: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/infrared-sauna-treatment-for-pn/
-- Laser Therapy for Neuropathy: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/neuropathy-1/

@juanito and @ecc79 may be able to share their experience with infrared therapy with you.

Are you able to share a little more about your symptoms and any treatments you started or that have been recommended by your doctor?

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Thank you John ! I have read you are in protocol 525. I have also read and thought about it .
My concern is that I weigh only 100 lbs and cannot take more than 4-5 pills a day ( heartburn, stomach ache …) . I see the protocol had 12 pills a day.

Do you get side effects from the protocol ?

Do you take all the vitamins every month ? What happens if you stop for a few weeks/ months ?

Thanks !

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Thank you John ! I have read you are in protocol 525. I have also read and thought about it .
My concern is that I weigh only 100 lbs and cannot take more than 4-5 pills a day ( heartburn, stomach ache …) . I see the protocol had 12 pills a day.

Do you get side effects from the protocol ?

Do you take all the vitamins every month ? What happens if you stop for a few weeks/ months ?

Thanks !

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I personally have not had any side effects from taking the protocol. They do have a "ramp up" version where you gradually increase the dosage of Na-RALA since some folks have digestive problems if they start with the full 1200 mg daily but that's the only issue I've heard others complain about. Also, some people take some adjusting to swallow the organic hemp seed oil. I started out mixing it in a morning smoothie but didn't like it making the smoothie taste bad so have gotten used to just swallowing the 1.5 oz every morning followed by a glass of water. I've been taking it daily since Sept 2016 which was a few years before it became the 525 and was more pills. I have missed a few days over the years but it was when I had a fasting blood lab where I couldn't take supplements before or when I ran out for a day or so before my reorder came. The lapses have not had much of an impact on me because I don't have the pain.

I have been following a clinical trial for a company called WinSanTor which is for WinSanTor’s lead compound, WST-057 a topical containing pirenzepene – https://winsantor.com/pipeline/. Interesting during my research I came across an article that is about one of my conditions I was trying to associate with metabolic syndrome. Much to my surprise I found the following article on their website:

Low-Carb Diets for Peripheral Neuropathy: https://winsantor.com/low-carb-diets-for-peripheral-neuropathy/

We also have a discussion group on Connect for low carb healthy fat (LCHF) - LCHF Living & Intermittent Fasting: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/lchf-living-intermittent-fasting/.

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Red light therapy ( low level laser therapy ) - have a positive impact on nerve regeneration ( according to studies ). They improve blood circulation .
Home units are available for sale .

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Thank you kindly @simina1234 !! I am very interested and will look into it! Glad you are getting relief! 🙂 @notgivingup17 I wish you all the best of luck!!

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Thank you kindly @simina1234 !! I am very interested and will look into it! Glad you are getting relief! 🙂 @notgivingup17 I wish you all the best of luck!!

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have PN in my feet. I am not diabetic but believe my problem came from weight loss surgery I had in my 20's. I am 73 now. I did a series of treatments using infrared light, vibration & tens unit with pads on feet & calves. However the key was the diet very low carb & low sugar. I had a definite improvement. I have slipped from the diet and need to go back on it. ( another benefit I lost 50 pounds.The infrared light can be purchased thru Amazon the tens unit I would ask your doctor for a script to get a medical grade one

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My experience has been that other symptoms of the type you mentioned came on me along with the small fiber neuropathy.

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have PN in my feet. I am not diabetic but believe my problem came from weight loss surgery I had in my 20's. I am 73 now. I did a series of treatments using infrared light, vibration & tens unit with pads on feet & calves. However the key was the diet very low carb & low sugar. I had a definite improvement. I have slipped from the diet and need to go back on it. ( another benefit I lost 50 pounds.The infrared light can be purchased thru Amazon the tens unit I would ask your doctor for a script to get a medical grade one

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Welcome @pogo, Thanks for sharing your tips and experience with the diet with low carb and sugar. I've been working on this also along with intermittent fasting to lose more weight. I've also found that it seems to help with my neuropathy. Recently I ran across an article on the topic that you might find interesting.

-- Low-Carb Diets for Peripheral Neuropathy: https://winsantor.com/low-carb-diets-for-peripheral-neuropathy/

Also there is another discussion you might find helpful -- Low-carb healthy fat living. Intermittent fasting. What’s your why?: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/low-carb-healthy-fat-living-intermittent-fasting-whats-your-why/

Do you have any pain symptoms with your neuropathy or is it just the numbness and tingling?

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have PN in my feet. I am not diabetic but believe my problem came from weight loss surgery I had in my 20's. I am 73 now. I did a series of treatments using infrared light, vibration & tens unit with pads on feet & calves. However the key was the diet very low carb & low sugar. I had a definite improvement. I have slipped from the diet and need to go back on it. ( another benefit I lost 50 pounds.The infrared light can be purchased thru Amazon the tens unit I would ask your doctor for a script to get a medical grade one

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I have some shooting pain at times in my feet but not real bad. I still work and on my feet a lot as by time I get off ( usually 10 hour day) my feet tingle. I hate gabapentin but it helps.

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Welcome @pogo, Thanks for sharing your tips and experience with the diet with low carb and sugar. I've been working on this also along with intermittent fasting to lose more weight. I've also found that it seems to help with my neuropathy. Recently I ran across an article on the topic that you might find interesting.

-- Low-Carb Diets for Peripheral Neuropathy: https://winsantor.com/low-carb-diets-for-peripheral-neuropathy/

Also there is another discussion you might find helpful -- Low-carb healthy fat living. Intermittent fasting. What’s your why?: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/low-carb-healthy-fat-living-intermittent-fasting-whats-your-why/

Do you have any pain symptoms with your neuropathy or is it just the numbness and tingling?

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Just the tingling for me in both feet

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Red light therapy ( low level laser therapy ) - have a positive impact on nerve regeneration ( according to studies ). They improve blood circulation .
Home units are available for sale .

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This is new info for me. Do you know what type of device is used? Handheld, mat or lamp? Thanks.

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This is new info for me. Do you know what type of device is used? Handheld, mat or lamp? Thanks.

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Here's a site that lists some of the home devices.

A Guide to Cold Lasers for Home Use - ColdLasers.Org: https://www.coldlasers.org/home-equipment/

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