RA Causing a lot of pain! Any helpful hints?

Posted by lindaadele @lindaadele, Jun 21 11:57am

I have had RA for several years have tried many medication‘s and I am in so much pain. I would love any kind of helpful hints that you can give me! thank you so very much for your help!!’

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Your lifestyle sounds fabulous, although I prefer cooler climates.

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@tisme My joints and the soft tissue in my fingers/hands/wrists (and sometimes feet) swell and get red/warm/even hot to touch. Leflunomide is keeping it mostly controlled, but I am at my maximum dose. My Rheumatologist says when it ceases to work, we will look at biologics because I am not a candidate for methotrexate, sulfasalazine or hydroxychloroquine. I also use topical Voltaren gel at bedtime on bad days.

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@sueinmn I can't take sulfasalazine or methotrexate, rheumatologist wants me back on hydroxy since I stopped because I say it was affecting my eyesight, but I refuse.

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@lindaadele When we say "I have RA", it's kind of like saying "My back hurts" - that is, there are many types of RA, that can cause pain in many different parts of the body.

I happen to be lucky enough to have both RA and osteoarthritis (OA), as well as fibromyalgia and an aggressive inflammatory response to many triggers, so treating pain takes a multi-pronged approach. My primary treatments are a healthy diet and as much activity (note I didn't say exercise) as possible. As to the specific ailments, for RA, we have settled (for now) on 15 mg leflunomide daily, which mostly controls pain and swelling in my hands and feet, I handle the breakthrough with topical Voltaren gel. We may be headed for a biologic in the next year. For OA, I use Tylenol to manage pain, add ibuprofen for bad days, and am exploring adding meloxicam with my rheumatologist. For fibro & reactions, I was using duloxetine, but weaned off and will be exploring options (too brain-fogging).

Through it all, I have stayed as active as possible - one of my fabulous rheumatologist's favorite lines is "motion is lotion." My Mom lived 40 years with RA & OA, and when people told her to take it easy, she would reply "If I sit down, I'll rust up and not be able to get up" - I try to keep both these adages in mind.

In 2020, after all of these diagnoses, plus a chronic lung condition, I was headed for being a permanent couch potato. I was referred to a pain rehab clinic through my health provider, where I learned to LIVE, not just exist, in spite of pain. The treatment included learning to acknowledge and see the pain differently, manage it with (non-opioid meds), physical therapy, meditation, behavior mod. Also to learn how to get decent sleep. I saw a pain management doc, a PT, and a psychologist. I also have a pulmonology team managing my lung condition, and a cardiologist for my heart.

Most of the time, being active - gardening, doing a lot around our 50 yo house (currently in a complete refresh/redec/cleanout), volunteering, walking, traveling, painting, fiber arts, hanging out with friends from 8 to 80+, and playing with my grandsons keeps my mind off how I hurt. If I sit down, I start cataloguing how many parts hurt (or don't work.)

When that's not enough, I resort to surgery if needed - I have had both hips replaced (OA), both thumbs repaired (OA & RA), my ACL/MCL replaced & rotator cuff repaired (trauma). This week, I will have my wrist replaced (OA & RA).

Yes, I have BAD days, or days when my body refuses to do ...anything. Then I take a day off, rest, read, take a hot bath, sit and enjoy my gardens.

Do you know your specific type of RA, and what parts of your body are affected. It would also be helpful to know if you have osteoarthritis (OA) or fibromyalgia in addition to RA.

What non-drug methods have you tried to manage pain and improve your quality of life?

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@sueinmn I think I have RA according to my doctor, but it changes all the time. So far I have been in so many medication’s for the RA. None of them really works so good right now I’m on Leflunomide and and I am tapering down from prednisone. I find I am having the most pain from my fingers and hands. I can hardly move them at a lot of time. I try to do a lot of hand exercises and hope maybe the flutamide will kick in or maybe she’ll change it to another medication I’m really kind of getting tired of this. Must’ve been on so many medication‘s already with not such good results. ! thank you so very much for your very helpful information. I really really appreciate it very very much. Hoping you feel better and better each every day! Again, thank you for your very informative information. I really appreciate it and it’s very helpful to me.!!’
Wishing you the very, very best going forward!!’

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One thing I do in addition to the various meds etc especially when I’m having a tough flare I call “mattress floating”. I love the ocean and so I lay on the bed and deep breathe and visualize floating in the warm ocean. Recall how it feels to float freely and remove gravity from my body. Gently flutter and rotate all the joints on my arms and legs. If there’s a nice breeze blowing over that makes it even better.
Wishing you all some relief on your rough days.

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@lindaadele When we say "I have RA", it's kind of like saying "My back hurts" - that is, there are many types of RA, that can cause pain in many different parts of the body.

I happen to be lucky enough to have both RA and osteoarthritis (OA), as well as fibromyalgia and an aggressive inflammatory response to many triggers, so treating pain takes a multi-pronged approach. My primary treatments are a healthy diet and as much activity (note I didn't say exercise) as possible. As to the specific ailments, for RA, we have settled (for now) on 15 mg leflunomide daily, which mostly controls pain and swelling in my hands and feet, I handle the breakthrough with topical Voltaren gel. We may be headed for a biologic in the next year. For OA, I use Tylenol to manage pain, add ibuprofen for bad days, and am exploring adding meloxicam with my rheumatologist. For fibro & reactions, I was using duloxetine, but weaned off and will be exploring options (too brain-fogging).

Through it all, I have stayed as active as possible - one of my fabulous rheumatologist's favorite lines is "motion is lotion." My Mom lived 40 years with RA & OA, and when people told her to take it easy, she would reply "If I sit down, I'll rust up and not be able to get up" - I try to keep both these adages in mind.

In 2020, after all of these diagnoses, plus a chronic lung condition, I was headed for being a permanent couch potato. I was referred to a pain rehab clinic through my health provider, where I learned to LIVE, not just exist, in spite of pain. The treatment included learning to acknowledge and see the pain differently, manage it with (non-opioid meds), physical therapy, meditation, behavior mod. Also to learn how to get decent sleep. I saw a pain management doc, a PT, and a psychologist. I also have a pulmonology team managing my lung condition, and a cardiologist for my heart.

Most of the time, being active - gardening, doing a lot around our 50 yo house (currently in a complete refresh/redec/cleanout), volunteering, walking, traveling, painting, fiber arts, hanging out with friends from 8 to 80+, and playing with my grandsons keeps my mind off how I hurt. If I sit down, I start cataloguing how many parts hurt (or don't work.)

When that's not enough, I resort to surgery if needed - I have had both hips replaced (OA), both thumbs repaired (OA & RA), my ACL/MCL replaced & rotator cuff repaired (trauma). This week, I will have my wrist replaced (OA & RA).

Yes, I have BAD days, or days when my body refuses to do ...anything. Then I take a day off, rest, read, take a hot bath, sit and enjoy my gardens.

Do you know your specific type of RA, and what parts of your body are affected. It would also be helpful to know if you have osteoarthritis (OA) or fibromyalgia in addition to RA.

What non-drug methods have you tried to manage pain and improve your quality of life?

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@sueinmn thank you so very much for sending your detailed comment. It was very helpful to me and I appreciate it very much. The bottom line is we are also different and have 1 million different situations with the joints and what not very scary. I really don’t think the doctors know what to do in most of the time especially especially with me because nothing‘s working for me wishing you the very very best of health going forward and thanks again for your comment. I really appreciate it and found it extremely helpful. Wishing you the very, very best.!!!

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Profile picture for Sue, Volunteer Mentor @sueinmn

@lindaadele When we say "I have RA", it's kind of like saying "My back hurts" - that is, there are many types of RA, that can cause pain in many different parts of the body.

I happen to be lucky enough to have both RA and osteoarthritis (OA), as well as fibromyalgia and an aggressive inflammatory response to many triggers, so treating pain takes a multi-pronged approach. My primary treatments are a healthy diet and as much activity (note I didn't say exercise) as possible. As to the specific ailments, for RA, we have settled (for now) on 15 mg leflunomide daily, which mostly controls pain and swelling in my hands and feet, I handle the breakthrough with topical Voltaren gel. We may be headed for a biologic in the next year. For OA, I use Tylenol to manage pain, add ibuprofen for bad days, and am exploring adding meloxicam with my rheumatologist. For fibro & reactions, I was using duloxetine, but weaned off and will be exploring options (too brain-fogging).

Through it all, I have stayed as active as possible - one of my fabulous rheumatologist's favorite lines is "motion is lotion." My Mom lived 40 years with RA & OA, and when people told her to take it easy, she would reply "If I sit down, I'll rust up and not be able to get up" - I try to keep both these adages in mind.

In 2020, after all of these diagnoses, plus a chronic lung condition, I was headed for being a permanent couch potato. I was referred to a pain rehab clinic through my health provider, where I learned to LIVE, not just exist, in spite of pain. The treatment included learning to acknowledge and see the pain differently, manage it with (non-opioid meds), physical therapy, meditation, behavior mod. Also to learn how to get decent sleep. I saw a pain management doc, a PT, and a psychologist. I also have a pulmonology team managing my lung condition, and a cardiologist for my heart.

Most of the time, being active - gardening, doing a lot around our 50 yo house (currently in a complete refresh/redec/cleanout), volunteering, walking, traveling, painting, fiber arts, hanging out with friends from 8 to 80+, and playing with my grandsons keeps my mind off how I hurt. If I sit down, I start cataloguing how many parts hurt (or don't work.)

When that's not enough, I resort to surgery if needed - I have had both hips replaced (OA), both thumbs repaired (OA & RA), my ACL/MCL replaced & rotator cuff repaired (trauma). This week, I will have my wrist replaced (OA & RA).

Yes, I have BAD days, or days when my body refuses to do ...anything. Then I take a day off, rest, read, take a hot bath, sit and enjoy my gardens.

Do you know your specific type of RA, and what parts of your body are affected. It would also be helpful to know if you have osteoarthritis (OA) or fibromyalgia in addition to RA.

What non-drug methods have you tried to manage pain and improve your quality of life?

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@sueinmn comment number two. Again I’d like to thank you for your very detailed comment as I said it was so helpful and each of us is so different but we can help each other by giving our situations right now. After a few years. I’m just taking one day at a time and hoping for the best and we’ll see what happens I know in my situation it’s autoimmune and my father side of the family. My cousin had it exactly like me and she was in pain. Her daughter said her whole life think she died in 89 years old, but you know what one day at a time we can only hope for the best and help each other out can’t hurt.! thank you very much again for your comment and I hope you feel better and better each and every day!!!

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One thing I do in addition to the various meds etc especially when I’m having a tough flare I call “mattress floating”. I love the ocean and so I lay on the bed and deep breathe and visualize floating in the warm ocean. Recall how it feels to float freely and remove gravity from my body. Gently flutter and rotate all the joints on my arms and legs. If there’s a nice breeze blowing over that makes it even better.
Wishing you all some relief on your rough days.

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@loriach thank you so very much for your comment. I also love the ocean and I was feeling relaxed. Just thinking about what you do in the bed. It really sounds great to me and I’m really gonna work on that one, but thank you so much. I appreciate your information. each and every day and thank you so much again for your comment. I love it. thank you so much again for all of your information.! I hope that you feel better and better each and every day my very best wishes to you!!

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I have had RA for over 44 years; but went undiagnosed for over 40 years.
None of the standard medicines worked, so I asked my doctor about Low Dose Naltrexone. It's not standard treatment, but it has helped many people. I've been on it about 9 months, and it's the first time I have felt relatively zero pain. I'm allergic to NSAIDs and aspirin, so this is huge for me.
I highly recommend it's worth a try. AgelessRX is a good source if your doctor is clueless.
I hope you get some relief soon!

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I have had RA for over 44 years; but went undiagnosed for over 40 years.
None of the standard medicines worked, so I asked my doctor about Low Dose Naltrexone. It's not standard treatment, but it has helped many people. I've been on it about 9 months, and it's the first time I have felt relatively zero pain. I'm allergic to NSAIDs and aspirin, so this is huge for me.
I highly recommend it's worth a try. AgelessRX is a good source if your doctor is clueless.
I hope you get some relief soon!

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@jdnc2023
I would like to chime in here about LDN. My previous rheumatologist refused to increase my LDN up from 3.0 mg since he did not feel knowledgeable enough (!) about the drug. My new rheumatologist was happy to do so, and it has helped improve my quality of sleep tremendously, with some mitigation of pain. (Apparently, the inflammation associated with autoimmunity can contribute to insomnia. And lack of sleep exacerbates pain.). So for those out there willing to give LDN a whirl, just be aware it may take some time to properly adjust the dosage.

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My rheumatologist started me at 4.5 mg. It took about 3 months to realize noticeable results. It started waning after 6 months, and he refused to increase the dose. I went through AgelessRX and they agreed to let me experiment on myself. I went up to 6 mg and it's helping again.
Some people do fine on very small doses, and it definitely is good to have a look at reddit.com LDN group for pointers.
I'm currently off of it dur to emergency infection from gallbladder removal remnants scope and bile duct stent. Awaiting another surgery to remove that and I've been off 10 days and joint pain is returning.
I would say that pushing for LDN was my best decision ever. It's great to finally get relief and not have my immune system weakened.

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