Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR): Meet others & Share Your Story

Welcome to the Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR) group on Mayo Clinic Connect.

Meet other members who are dealing with PMR. Let’s learn from each other and share stories about living well with PMR, coping with the challenges and offering tips.We look forward to welcoming you and introducing you to other members. Feel free to browse the topics or start a new one.

Grab a cup of coffee or beverage of choice and let’s chat. Why not start by introducing yourself? What's your experience with PMR? How are you doing today?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR) Support Group.

Hi all. I'm a month into my PMR diagnosis. I feel like my life has been turned upside down, but am determined, somehow, to figure this all out. My rheumatologist put me on 20mg Prednisone for 3 days, 15 mg for 3 days, and am now on 10mg/day. I take it late at night. Plan is to taper 1mg/mo. (He mentioned adding hydroxychloroquine if unable to taper w/o symptoms.) I am, by no means, symptom free, but am trying to learn to manage. Some days are better than others. I have greatly reduced activities outside the home and am watching what I eat. For those who have (unfortunately) more experience with this beast, are the symptoms always present through the tapering process? Can you ever be symptom-free without the higher dose of prednisone? I want to minimize the drug regimen, but don't want to compromise the goal of remission. Does anyone ever achieve remission under 1 year?

I have already appreciated all who have shared on this site. I don't see my rheumo until early May so just trying to find my way.

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That’s a question I still have….what is the goal? To get off prednisone after you are in remission (no more symptoms) or as soon as you can stand to be with out it.
Is prednisone helping us heal or just relieving the pain…both?

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@sbhgr

Hi all. I'm a month into my PMR diagnosis. I feel like my life has been turned upside down, but am determined, somehow, to figure this all out. My rheumatologist put me on 20mg Prednisone for 3 days, 15 mg for 3 days, and am now on 10mg/day. I take it late at night. Plan is to taper 1mg/mo. (He mentioned adding hydroxychloroquine if unable to taper w/o symptoms.) I am, by no means, symptom free, but am trying to learn to manage. Some days are better than others. I have greatly reduced activities outside the home and am watching what I eat. For those who have (unfortunately) more experience with this beast, are the symptoms always present through the tapering process? Can you ever be symptom-free without the higher dose of prednisone? I want to minimize the drug regimen, but don't want to compromise the goal of remission. Does anyone ever achieve remission under 1 year?

I have already appreciated all who have shared on this site. I don't see my rheumo until early May so just trying to find my way.

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What happened to me was that prednisone was started initially to "manage my symptoms." Unfortunately, prednisone wasn't all that effective at putting PMR quickly into remission. I took prednisone for 12+ years for PMR alone. Prednisone never put PMR into remission. Being cured was never the goal.

I had prior experience with taking prednisone for other autoimmune conditions before PMR was diagnosed. Those other conditions were called "steroid responsive" and remission was achievable within a month or two. I could taper off prednisone quickly. PMR was different. I was never able to taper off prednisone after PMR was diagnosed.

A curious thing happened over time. The problem I had was my doctors rightfully got nervous about me taking prednisone for a long time. The focus of my rheumatology visits were less and less about PMR. My visits became more about how much prednisone was I taking and about how to get me off prednisone. The goal of "remission" and "tapering off prednisone" were one in the same goal. However, my ability to taper off prednisone became more elusive the longer I took prednisone.

My rheumatologist introduced me to "steroid sparing" medications. They were strictly used to get my prednisone dose lower. Prednisone was the "first line" treatment but apparently it needed reinforcements. I didn't do well when other medications were added to the mix.

Meanwhile, my GP was kept busy writing prescriptions for medications to control my BP and cholesterol. My weight seemed like a lost cause but my GP was good about "encouraging me" to lose weight. My GP also wrote referrals to other specialists for a never ending stream of new medical problems. It was never clear to me if prednisone, PMR or something else was causing all these other problems.

I don't think my problems were all age related but that was another possibility. I felt like I had aged rather suddenly. I would complain about feeling like I was 100 when I was only 60 years old and debilitated.

Happy ending though --- I'm off prednisone! I'm being treated with a different medication which works well for me. My rheumatologist had a hunch it would work for me. He said I was "too young" to take prednisone for the rest of my life. My rheumatologist wanted me to try something new and different and said there weren't many other options left. I was off prednisone a year later.

The possibility of remission now seems real to me. I feel like I'm recovering but I still have more to go. At least the gap between my actual age of 68 and how I feel is shrinking to something closer to 70. I hope to be better than I am now when I get to 70.

It is said that PMR will eventually "burn itself out." but the question that nobody can answer is "when."

Prednisone did a decent job at keeping my symptoms in check but I was never able to say "no pain." My rate the pain was a new normal average of a "5" -- some days better than other days.

Unfortunately, I relapsed whenever my prednisone dose was too low. Those setbacks were absolutely brutal and rated a "10." Those relapses only resembled my original PMR symptoms but I never could say symptoms were exactly the same as my original PMR symptoms.

I hope for everyone's sake that PMR burns itself out sooner than it did for me. I still don't know if remission will last. However, I seem to be doing much better being off prednisone.

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@sbhgr

Hi all. I'm a month into my PMR diagnosis. I feel like my life has been turned upside down, but am determined, somehow, to figure this all out. My rheumatologist put me on 20mg Prednisone for 3 days, 15 mg for 3 days, and am now on 10mg/day. I take it late at night. Plan is to taper 1mg/mo. (He mentioned adding hydroxychloroquine if unable to taper w/o symptoms.) I am, by no means, symptom free, but am trying to learn to manage. Some days are better than others. I have greatly reduced activities outside the home and am watching what I eat. For those who have (unfortunately) more experience with this beast, are the symptoms always present through the tapering process? Can you ever be symptom-free without the higher dose of prednisone? I want to minimize the drug regimen, but don't want to compromise the goal of remission. Does anyone ever achieve remission under 1 year?

I have already appreciated all who have shared on this site. I don't see my rheumo until early May so just trying to find my way.

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Hi,

I am new to this site and new to PMR, only diagnosed about seven weeks ago. While I got almost immediate relief from some cortisone shots in my hips and starting 15 mg. prednisone daily, I am now adjusting to what I call my "new normal".

Normal is not fun. Nor is is anything like what I thought treatment would bring. I have pain all the time, though nowhere as debilitating as it was - I was hardly able to walk and was crawling up/down stairs. Now I can move around, go to work, go for short walks (again, not the 3-4 mile walks I was taking!) and wondering what the future holds.

I am being treated by my PCP who is already talking about reducing my prednisone and I think I need a higher dose!!

The wait time to see a rheumatologist is months, even here in central NC, home to two major medical centers, so I must wait. Am taking tumeric, eating an anti-inflamatory diet, and looking for some encouragement that things will get better.

Any and all thoughts and suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks!

Susan

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@saltyg

That’s a question I still have….what is the goal? To get off prednisone after you are in remission (no more symptoms) or as soon as you can stand to be with out it.
Is prednisone helping us heal or just relieving the pain…both?

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Thank you for helping me frame the questions I need to ask my doctors.

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@susan298

Thank you for helping me frame the questions I need to ask my doctors.

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I would ask your doctor how long will he/she want you to take prednisone?

When their answer isn't anything definitive, ask them how will you be able to taper off prednisone when your body becomes dependent on prednisone as your exogenous form of cortisol.
https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/000389.htm#:~:text=This%20hormone%20is%20normally%20made,like%20cortisol%20in%20the%20body.

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@dadcue

What happened to me was that prednisone was started initially to "manage my symptoms." Unfortunately, prednisone wasn't all that effective at putting PMR quickly into remission. I took prednisone for 12+ years for PMR alone. Prednisone never put PMR into remission. Being cured was never the goal.

I had prior experience with taking prednisone for other autoimmune conditions before PMR was diagnosed. Those other conditions were called "steroid responsive" and remission was achievable within a month or two. I could taper off prednisone quickly. PMR was different. I was never able to taper off prednisone after PMR was diagnosed.

A curious thing happened over time. The problem I had was my doctors rightfully got nervous about me taking prednisone for a long time. The focus of my rheumatology visits were less and less about PMR. My visits became more about how much prednisone was I taking and about how to get me off prednisone. The goal of "remission" and "tapering off prednisone" were one in the same goal. However, my ability to taper off prednisone became more elusive the longer I took prednisone.

My rheumatologist introduced me to "steroid sparing" medications. They were strictly used to get my prednisone dose lower. Prednisone was the "first line" treatment but apparently it needed reinforcements. I didn't do well when other medications were added to the mix.

Meanwhile, my GP was kept busy writing prescriptions for medications to control my BP and cholesterol. My weight seemed like a lost cause but my GP was good about "encouraging me" to lose weight. My GP also wrote referrals to other specialists for a never ending stream of new medical problems. It was never clear to me if prednisone, PMR or something else was causing all these other problems.

I don't think my problems were all age related but that was another possibility. I felt like I had aged rather suddenly. I would complain about feeling like I was 100 when I was only 60 years old and debilitated.

Happy ending though --- I'm off prednisone! I'm being treated with a different medication which works well for me. My rheumatologist had a hunch it would work for me. He said I was "too young" to take prednisone for the rest of my life. My rheumatologist wanted me to try something new and different and said there weren't many other options left. I was off prednisone a year later.

The possibility of remission now seems real to me. I feel like I'm recovering but I still have more to go. At least the gap between my actual age of 68 and how I feel is shrinking to something closer to 70. I hope to be better than I am now when I get to 70.

It is said that PMR will eventually "burn itself out." but the question that nobody can answer is "when."

Prednisone did a decent job at keeping my symptoms in check but I was never able to say "no pain." My rate the pain was a new normal average of a "5" -- some days better than other days.

Unfortunately, I relapsed whenever my prednisone dose was too low. Those setbacks were absolutely brutal and rated a "10." Those relapses only resembled my original PMR symptoms but I never could say symptoms were exactly the same as my original PMR symptoms.

I hope for everyone's sake that PMR burns itself out sooner than it did for me. I still don't know if remission will last. However, I seem to be doing much better being off prednisone.

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I'm sure we all want to know what alternate medication you doc decided would work for you, if you are willing to share. We all have problems with steroids. Some, more than others. For myself, my glaucoma is limiting my pred use. (You should of heard my opthomologist's reaction to me being on sterorids!) It seems we are all in the same leaky boat.

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@suetex

I'm sure we all want to know what alternate medication you doc decided would work for you, if you are willing to share. We all have problems with steroids. Some, more than others. For myself, my glaucoma is limiting my pred use. (You should of heard my opthomologist's reaction to me being on sterorids!) It seems we are all in the same leaky boat.

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My ophthalmologist didn't like me being on prednisone either. My intraocular pressures seemed to vary depending on my prednisone dose. Whenever my prednisone dose was 30 mg or more my eye pressures were 30 or more. My eye pressures were asymptomatic so I had no idea how high they were.

My ophthalmologist still wants to treat me for ocular hypertension even though I'm off prednisone. Cosopt drops twice a day have been ordered even though my eye pressures are almost normal now. She was very nice and begged me to do the eye drops. She said my eye pressures could damage my ocular nerve and it would be too late to do much about it.

I always thought it was strange that the medication prescribed for GCA to save vision could cause permanent eye damage. There truly needs to be better options available for people with PMR/GCA.

I have been taking Actemra (tocilizumab) for the last 4 years. I was able to taper off prednisone within a year after Actemra was started. An endocrinologist intervened and told me to stop tapering for about 6 months when adrenal insufficiency was diagnosed. You won't know how well your adrenals are functioning until you can maintain a prednisone dose of 3 mg for an extended period of time. Actemra allowed me to be able to stay on 3 mg for as long as it took.

Eventually, the endocrinologist told me to stop prednisone when my cortisol level was "adequate." That doctor said I could take prednisone again for any reason if I felt the need. However, she wanted to know if I had the need for prednisone preferably before taking it again. She didn't require that I notify her first.

I needed to stop Actemra a couple of times but not because of an infection or side effects. Uveitis is another autoimmune disorder that attacks my eye. After I got off prednisone the first time, my ophthalmologist nearly cried as she ordered 60 mg of prednisone again for uveitis.. Fortunately, the uveitis responded quickly and it went back into remission.

A different biologic called Humira (Adalimumab) was tried specifically to prevent uveitis from happening again. Unfortunately, my pain returned after about 2 months on Humira and I got stuck on 15 mg of prednisone again.

That was when my rheumatologist told me to pick which biologic worked best for me. I chose Actemra.

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@dadcue

What happened to me was that prednisone was started initially to "manage my symptoms." Unfortunately, prednisone wasn't all that effective at putting PMR quickly into remission. I took prednisone for 12+ years for PMR alone. Prednisone never put PMR into remission. Being cured was never the goal.

I had prior experience with taking prednisone for other autoimmune conditions before PMR was diagnosed. Those other conditions were called "steroid responsive" and remission was achievable within a month or two. I could taper off prednisone quickly. PMR was different. I was never able to taper off prednisone after PMR was diagnosed.

A curious thing happened over time. The problem I had was my doctors rightfully got nervous about me taking prednisone for a long time. The focus of my rheumatology visits were less and less about PMR. My visits became more about how much prednisone was I taking and about how to get me off prednisone. The goal of "remission" and "tapering off prednisone" were one in the same goal. However, my ability to taper off prednisone became more elusive the longer I took prednisone.

My rheumatologist introduced me to "steroid sparing" medications. They were strictly used to get my prednisone dose lower. Prednisone was the "first line" treatment but apparently it needed reinforcements. I didn't do well when other medications were added to the mix.

Meanwhile, my GP was kept busy writing prescriptions for medications to control my BP and cholesterol. My weight seemed like a lost cause but my GP was good about "encouraging me" to lose weight. My GP also wrote referrals to other specialists for a never ending stream of new medical problems. It was never clear to me if prednisone, PMR or something else was causing all these other problems.

I don't think my problems were all age related but that was another possibility. I felt like I had aged rather suddenly. I would complain about feeling like I was 100 when I was only 60 years old and debilitated.

Happy ending though --- I'm off prednisone! I'm being treated with a different medication which works well for me. My rheumatologist had a hunch it would work for me. He said I was "too young" to take prednisone for the rest of my life. My rheumatologist wanted me to try something new and different and said there weren't many other options left. I was off prednisone a year later.

The possibility of remission now seems real to me. I feel like I'm recovering but I still have more to go. At least the gap between my actual age of 68 and how I feel is shrinking to something closer to 70. I hope to be better than I am now when I get to 70.

It is said that PMR will eventually "burn itself out." but the question that nobody can answer is "when."

Prednisone did a decent job at keeping my symptoms in check but I was never able to say "no pain." My rate the pain was a new normal average of a "5" -- some days better than other days.

Unfortunately, I relapsed whenever my prednisone dose was too low. Those setbacks were absolutely brutal and rated a "10." Those relapses only resembled my original PMR symptoms but I never could say symptoms were exactly the same as my original PMR symptoms.

I hope for everyone's sake that PMR burns itself out sooner than it did for me. I still don't know if remission will last. However, I seem to be doing much better being off prednisone.

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what's the different medication you refer to that worked?

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@susan298

Hi,

I am new to this site and new to PMR, only diagnosed about seven weeks ago. While I got almost immediate relief from some cortisone shots in my hips and starting 15 mg. prednisone daily, I am now adjusting to what I call my "new normal".

Normal is not fun. Nor is is anything like what I thought treatment would bring. I have pain all the time, though nowhere as debilitating as it was - I was hardly able to walk and was crawling up/down stairs. Now I can move around, go to work, go for short walks (again, not the 3-4 mile walks I was taking!) and wondering what the future holds.

I am being treated by my PCP who is already talking about reducing my prednisone and I think I need a higher dose!!

The wait time to see a rheumatologist is months, even here in central NC, home to two major medical centers, so I must wait. Am taking tumeric, eating an anti-inflamatory diet, and looking for some encouragement that things will get better.

Any and all thoughts and suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks!

Susan

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Hi Susan,
I agree this "new normal" is no fun. I am operating at about 30% of what I was 6-7 weeks ago. I just happened to see a rheumatologist last summer for my sjogrens, so I was able to get an appointment when this PMR beast hit me.

When I get close to the time to take my daily prednisone, I am hurting. I manage to get through the day (for the most part) but I, too, have pain all the time.

I'm curious to know from those who have tapered to below 5mg if they still experience pain and the limitations associated with this.

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