PMR - What do you wish you had known . . .

Posted by jabrown0407 @jabrown0407, Jun 21 11:15pm

Each of us has been on a journey with a disease that is not well understood, common but not identical symptoms and the steroid treatment is scary and problematic with its own side effects.
What is the one or two things you wish you had known early on that helped you put the pieces together and helped you better understand what is going on with you and your body.
Please share so we can learn from each other.

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I wish I had known the time it takes to taper off prednisone and the risks of using it. At first, the relief from the PMR pain is so quick and profound it feels like a miracle. But the side effects are real, rearing their heads like a Medusa shortly after that first wave of pain relief. At one time, I thought if I ever get off prednisone and have another flare, I’d prefer to manage the pain than to revert to prednisone, but with more research I learned doing so increases the risk of GCA and even worse outcomes from the unchecked PMR. It’s a situation with only one path out: prednisone to manage PMR and then the human managing the prednisone for a very long time. Only about 25% of us will walk away from PMR after a ~2-year battle. The rest will continue to live with it, hoping to awake every day flare free, or intercepting a flare early enough to control it with as little prednisone as possible. This disorder is not for the meek, and for me, it takes every ounce self care I can muster to manage it, including the toll on my mental health. As they say, the only way out is through.

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@kathy22wright
What about kevzara?

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@cyndip Which taper did you use, please?

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@p0rtia
I went down 1/2 mg at a time and the schedule is this, alternating days:
(HD=higher dose - what you’re taking now, LD = new lower dose- .5 mg lower than HD)
HD, HD, LD, HD, HD, LD
HD, LD, HD, LD, HD, LD
HD, LD, LD, HD, LD, LD
LD, LD, LD, LD, LD, LD
At this point you’re down by .5 mg, and you start over with that being the new higher dose.
So it takes almost 8 weeks to go down a whole milligram. A couple of times I felt a little soreness creeping back when I got totally down to the new LD, and I just stayed put there for an extra week and the soreness resolved.
I will be always grateful to whoever originally posted this schedule here- I can’t find that original post- maybe that person will read this and have more comments. This schedule has really worked for me at these low levels of prednisone. If it is confusing, let me know and I’ll be very happy to send you an example.

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I have had lupus most of my life but in the last 9 months my autoimmune issues have grown. I am still in the midst of numerous tests and scans and whatnot, trying to determine what is going on. I know I have little patience but I said to my PA yesterday "I just want to get my life back." I seem to remember saying that same statement when I was about 25 and had just been diagnosed with active lupus. I guess I am still on the same journey that I was on 55 years ago.

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Greeting to all on this tough PMR/drug journey. So thankful to learn ( in a post here) about https://prednisonepharmacist.com/ . Her videos answer a lot, even what questions to ask your doctors. I learned that between 2 am - 6 am is a normal time for inflammation and that is why I wake up with severe shoulder pain. Dr. Megan's answer is to take 1/2 your prednisone dosage at night and one in the middle of the night. THIS HAS HELPED SO MUCH! I'm going to share this with my rheumatologist in hopes that she share it with other patients. God bless.

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@kathy22wright
What about kevzara?

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@kjoed53 My rheumatologist hasn’t determined anything more than prednisone is necessary, and based on my research, I’m not sure I could afford the copays even if he did. I’m a small business owner paying enough in premiums and current copays to fund a small country.

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Putting too much faith in the idea that in two years the pmr would go away gave me a somewhat frivolous attitude. That was in Jan of 2019. Since then, what I thought would be 'follow the taper schedule and be done', just did not happen.
The only 'handouts' at the Dr.'s office I received were on methotrexate and fosamax. Nothing about inflammation, exercise or diet.
In all this time I've only come across one person who also has pmr and his cardiologist got him off the prednisone before he was 'hooked' on it.

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My pcp and rheumatologist both have pamphlets and printed information in their waiting rooms about various conditions, diseases and pharmaceutical options.
Has anybody come across any such printed info about pmr specifically? A little booklet about pmr from the doctor would have been very helpful.
I never imagined I would be on prednisone this long.

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@kjoed53 My rheumatologist hasn’t determined anything more than prednisone is necessary, and based on my research, I’m not sure I could afford the copays even if he did. I’m a small business owner paying enough in premiums and current copays to fund a small country.

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@kathy22wright
Go to the kevzara website and see if you qualify for free kevzara.

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Putting too much faith in the idea that in two years the pmr would go away gave me a somewhat frivolous attitude. That was in Jan of 2019. Since then, what I thought would be 'follow the taper schedule and be done', just did not happen.
The only 'handouts' at the Dr.'s office I received were on methotrexate and fosamax. Nothing about inflammation, exercise or diet.
In all this time I've only come across one person who also has pmr and his cardiologist got him off the prednisone before he was 'hooked' on it.

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@pmrsuzie Kevzara worked wonders for me

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I wish I had known more about the process at the time I was diagnosed. From this group I realize that there is no 'standard' or 'normal' and it can vary so much. My rheumatologist gave little information and said it lasted two years. I needed more help and information about tapering at the lower levels. I have changed rheumatologist and my new one appreciates my need to have lots on information. He is focusing on what will work best for me and it seems he will stay flexible so this time my taper off prednisone will be custom to my need. I asked if I had a flare or just didn't taper right when I went off prednisone. He said it is difficult to tell but lets move forward for the best outcome for me. I had tapered to 0 but pain returned and got pretty intense. Now back on 5 and it feels so much better.

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@pmrsuzie Kevzara worked wonders for me

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@tweetypie13
I think it's wonderful that biologics are helping patients.
Unfortunately, for me, Kevzara is only accessible with a $350 copay. And, I've had problems with a lot of medicines making the decision to try something besides prednisone difficult.

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