Newly Diagnosed SVT and on Metropolol.

Posted by mrm50 @mrm50, Jul 19 5:05pm

Hello, new here and am reaching out to see and read other's experiences. 50 yr old here and my symptoms became more and more frequent. Cardiologist put me on a lose dose Metropolol. This is new to me and definitely alarming when the occur. I would love to hear any feedback about how to deal with them and your quality of life. Thank you all in advance.

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@osgilian Marcia, may I ask who your electrophysiologist was who did your ablation?

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@medenaro Hartford, CT. Dr Ankit Mahajan, Trinity Heath of New England Arrthymia Services. Everything about him and his staff was highly professional and truly empathetic.

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@medenaro Hartford, CT. Dr Ankit Mahajan, Trinity Heath of New England Arrthymia Services. Everything about him and his staff was highly professional and truly empathetic.

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@osgilian thank you for the information and the quick reply.

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@JustinMcClanahan
Good morning Justin. Thank you for reaching out. I used to have them once in a blue moon, but now they have become more frequent in the last couple of months to a daily basis. They happen at any time. I could be laying down resting, or walking, and sometimes at the gym while working out. They are short and brief, but 2 weeks ago I had longer lasting one that I ended up going to the ER. The doctor told me about natural vasovagal remedies but I am new to this and they feel alarming. They gave me a low dose Atenolol to start and after meeting with my cardiologist, they changed me over to Metropolol.

How do you cope with these episodes. I have been on these new meds for 3 days. Do the SVT's ever fully stop with the medications? Your advice and input is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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@mrm50 is anyone on 120 mg of diltiazam

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I have a long history of SVT's probably dating back to my early adulthood, but until I reached my early 50's the episodes only lasted a couple minutes and occurred so infrequently (once every few years) I paid little attention to them and would forget about them after the episodes. The episodes became more frequent when I hit the 50's, and the first one that took me to the ER was an episode that didn't stop on its own after several hours, and was hovering around 210-220 beats/minute when I got there. They slowed it down with an adenosine IV, followed by a digoxin drip overnight and it was back to normal the next morning. They did ultrasounds to see if I'd thrown any clots ( none seen), and started me on 100 mg metoprolol succinate ( extended release)

With subsequent visits to a cardiologist and my primary care doc, I was reminded that I had high blood pressure ( I knew it but had been mostly ignoring it for too many years, assuming that diet and exercise would control it) and started taking Diovan HCZT ( valsartan combined with a diuretic) for blood pressure.
At first this combination of medications made me light-headed and sort of "loopy", but these side effects disappeared after a couple weeks.

The metoprolol did an excellent job of controlling the SVT, and it continued doing so for quite a few years. The cardiologist wanted me to have an SVT ablation, but I refused it, thinking the metoprolol was doing so well in keeping the SVT at bay, I didn't need the ablation. The cardiologist said without the ablation I'd have to take the metoprolol for life, and that SVTs/arrhythmias tend to worsen as we get older, and the medication becomes less effective in controlling them. I said "so be it", and refused the ablation.

The metoprolol continued to do a good job at controlling the SVT over the next 10-12 years or so, even when the amount was cut down to 50 mg/day ( at my request), and the PCP added 180 mg/day of diltiazem ER for added blood pressure and SVT control. And I didn't have side effects I was aware of during these times. I took my meds, lived a full busy life and didn't think much at all about the SVT- or my blood pressure, for that matter.

Fast forward to my mid-60's ( about 15 years after that first trip to the ER for SVT), I woke up with the same SVT symptoms ( for me, that was a fluttering in my chest, some chest discomfort- like an overworked muscle is the best way I can describe it, light-headedness and slight shortness of breath) in the wee hours of the morning, got up, sat in the lounger, took my meds and waited, and waited, and waited for the episode to stop. When it didn't about 4 hours later we headed to the ER, where they hooked me up for an EKG and informed me I had atrial flutter- not the same SVT I'd had in earlier episodes. This episode stopped, finally, right after I got into an ER bay, but the doc insisted on admitting me overnight and referred me to a cardiologist.

So, I met the cardiologist the next day, who took me on as a patient, and I still see him to this day. He changed the metoprolol succinate I'd been taking to the shorter acting version ( metoprolol tartrate), changed one of the blood pressure meds, and ordered a 3 week cardiac monitor to see if I had subsequent episodes of A-flutter or fib ( they worry more about these than the garden variety SVT due to the stroke risk associated with these arrhythmias). Over the years I took the metoprolol, diltiazem and blood pressure drugs and we were on the lookout for any of those arrhythmias. My SVT increased several years later after the doc stopped the diltiazem, and this was frequent and bothersome enough to cause quality of life issues, so he increased the metoprolol to 150 mg/day, and this helped to keep them under control.

Fortunately this doesn't happen to everyone, but over the years I developed bradycardia in addition to the SVT- so I had both. I don't know how much of this might have been due to the metoprolol ( bradycardia is a side effect) or whether the metoprolol just made an underlying condition I had worse, or surface, but the bradycardia got worse over a couple years as it became symptomatic and it definitely effected my quality of life. I had three cardiologists ( two EPs and this guy) inform me that the bradycardia was due to an underlying problem I had- sinus node dysfunction- though it was probably aggrevated by the metoprolol- and I had a dual chamber pacemaker implanted in June 2019.
The pacemaker was a game changer in that it made me feel much better, and to this day I continue to take the metoprolol at 150 mg/day, now to control the SVT ( identified as atrial tachycardia by the EP that put in the pacemaker), atrial flutter and atrial fibrillation that I've developed over the years. This drug still does a respectible job at keeping the arrhythmias/tachycardia at bay most of the time. I have some breakthoughs, but these episodes are for the most part brief ( less than 2 minutes, mostly), and don't happen every day. My quality of life is still good, I think I have the pacemaker to thank for that, as it keeps my heart rate where it should be, and also allows me to take enough medication to control the SVTs and company without my heart rate tanking.

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@marybird wow! Thank you for sharing your history. I’m recently diagnosed with SVT and really struggling. Cardiologist has done nothing for me and finally referred me to EP (at my request after ready posts here). I have appt in one month. I’m trying to learn what I can now to help control. Some days I don’t have any issues but other days a lot. Trying to sleep when they last for a long time is tough. I’m exhausted. 🙏🏼

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@marybird wow! Thank you for sharing your history. I’m recently diagnosed with SVT and really struggling. Cardiologist has done nothing for me and finally referred me to EP (at my request after ready posts here). I have appt in one month. I’m trying to learn what I can now to help control. Some days I don’t have any issues but other days a lot. Trying to sleep when they last for a long time is tough. I’m exhausted. 🙏🏼

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@tlaun44 I was recently diagnosed with SVT, too, and my cardiologist referred me to an EP but also prescribed a low dose of metoprolol (12.5mg 1X day) in the interim. I had normal BP (120/80) before and with the metoprolol it's 100/60. It also slows your heart down. My resting HR was around 60bpm and it's down in the low 50s now. It made me a bit tired for the first few weeks but gradually I adjusted to it. My only symptoms were heart palpitations so depending on your situation, maybe your cardiologist determined a beta-blocker like metoprolol wasn't appropriate for you. Still, it may be worth asking your cardiology about it if they haven't discussed this option with you.

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@tlaun44 I was recently diagnosed with SVT, too, and my cardiologist referred me to an EP but also prescribed a low dose of metoprolol (12.5mg 1X day) in the interim. I had normal BP (120/80) before and with the metoprolol it's 100/60. It also slows your heart down. My resting HR was around 60bpm and it's down in the low 50s now. It made me a bit tired for the first few weeks but gradually I adjusted to it. My only symptoms were heart palpitations so depending on your situation, maybe your cardiologist determined a beta-blocker like metoprolol wasn't appropriate for you. Still, it may be worth asking your cardiology about it if they haven't discussed this option with you.

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@birder315 thanks for your insight. I’ll be honest and say I’m not happy with cardiologist and will probably be looking for new one after I see EP. I’ve no idea about medications. He didn’t prescribe anything. I’ve been on blood pressure meds for five years as well as few other meds for various other health issues. Been a rough five years for me and now this. I’ve got bad allergies and sinus issues and meds for those seem to trigger or aggravate the SVT. I’m dizzy and lightheaded a lot and shortness of breath very easily. Changed jobs in May which caused stress/anxiety so that hasn’t helped. I can’t wait to see EP to try to get a handle on this all.

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@marybird wow! Thank you for sharing your history. I’m recently diagnosed with SVT and really struggling. Cardiologist has done nothing for me and finally referred me to EP (at my request after ready posts here). I have appt in one month. I’m trying to learn what I can now to help control. Some days I don’t have any issues but other days a lot. Trying to sleep when they last for a long time is tough. I’m exhausted. 🙏🏼

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@tlaun44 I totally understand the exhaustion I used to stay awake at night thinking it would come on during my sleep and it did. I don’t understand why no one such as cardiologist is referring you to an EP Physician for an Ablation unless your HR doesn’t get high enough. My HR was over 180 when it happened. EP won’t do ablation unless your HR is high. That’s not to say a HR of 120’s isn’t a problem. Also did your Cardiologist try Metoprolol?

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@tlaun44 I totally understand the exhaustion I used to stay awake at night thinking it would come on during my sleep and it did. I don’t understand why no one such as cardiologist is referring you to an EP Physician for an Ablation unless your HR doesn’t get high enough. My HR was over 180 when it happened. EP won’t do ablation unless your HR is high. That’s not to say a HR of 120’s isn’t a problem. Also did your Cardiologist try Metoprolol?

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@poojamama cardiologist did nothing other than tell me “this is not life threatening, 30% of people have this and most never even know it”. No medication or anything. Well I feel it! Severely. I was the one who had to ask for referral to EP. I don’t believe my heart rate is any higher than what it has been for last five years. Was at PCP other day and it was normal. Only time it was high was when I took steroids and ended up in ER.

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@marybird wow! Thank you for sharing your history. I’m recently diagnosed with SVT and really struggling. Cardiologist has done nothing for me and finally referred me to EP (at my request after ready posts here). I have appt in one month. I’m trying to learn what I can now to help control. Some days I don’t have any issues but other days a lot. Trying to sleep when they last for a long time is tough. I’m exhausted. 🙏🏼

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@tlaun44 Sometimes there can be a long wait to see a cardiologist. Maybe it would be good to look now and make an appointment with a new one. Maybe ask the EP's office if they know a cardiologist that the the EP dr you will be seeing works well with. Have you research what food may trigger this? Foods like chocolate, caffeine, stress, alcohol, and carbohydrates which raise blood sugar. A lack of sleep, hard exercise. Are you pre-diabetic? Calcium and magnesium work together to control heart muscle function, but they have very different effects on heart health. Magnesium helps heart muscles relax and regulates electrical rhythms, while calcium triggers muscle contraction. Maybe take calcium and magnesium before bed time. or a glass of milk or some fat free plain Greek Yogurt before bedtime. Of course, always check with dr or PCP before you take supplements. From A.I. Magnesium and calcium heavily influence Supraventricular Tachycardia (SVT) by regulating the electrical signals in your heart's upper chambers. While magnesium acts as a calming agent that can help prevent and stabilize arrhythmias, calcium triggers the contractions that fuel them. Neither mineral replaces standard medical treatments like vagal maneuvers or ablation, but keeping them balanced is critical for rhythm management

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@tlaun44 Sometimes there can be a long wait to see a cardiologist. Maybe it would be good to look now and make an appointment with a new one. Maybe ask the EP's office if they know a cardiologist that the the EP dr you will be seeing works well with. Have you research what food may trigger this? Foods like chocolate, caffeine, stress, alcohol, and carbohydrates which raise blood sugar. A lack of sleep, hard exercise. Are you pre-diabetic? Calcium and magnesium work together to control heart muscle function, but they have very different effects on heart health. Magnesium helps heart muscles relax and regulates electrical rhythms, while calcium triggers muscle contraction. Maybe take calcium and magnesium before bed time. or a glass of milk or some fat free plain Greek Yogurt before bedtime. Of course, always check with dr or PCP before you take supplements. From A.I. Magnesium and calcium heavily influence Supraventricular Tachycardia (SVT) by regulating the electrical signals in your heart's upper chambers. While magnesium acts as a calming agent that can help prevent and stabilize arrhythmias, calcium triggers the contractions that fuel them. Neither mineral replaces standard medical treatments like vagal maneuvers or ablation, but keeping them balanced is critical for rhythm management

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@vjs003 thank you, yes I’ve done dome research and have eliminated some things from my diet. I don’t drink alcohol or coffee and have always drank decaf tea but I did stop eating other foods and drinks with caffeine. I’ve been taking magnesium supplements for years before bed. I will look into calcium. I’m not pre diabetic and try to limit sweets and sugar. I have had issues with sleep since I got sick 5 years ago and between that and stress of starting a new job I’ve been hit or miss with getting enough sleep. I’m trying but some nights the SVT makes it hard to relax enough to sleep. Look forward to what EP says and will ask for recommendations for me cardiologist now. Thank you.

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