Lichen Planopilaris...newly diagnosed

Posted by ginyer @ginyer, Feb 17, 2020

Hi, new to the site and new to the diagnosis. Just was hoping to touch base with anyone else that may have dealt with this or be dealing with it. I've had thinning of hair over the years but it would always stop and some would come back, but I would say this "dropping" as I call it has been going on over a year now...I've seen the dermatologist in the past and we never knew what caused it. I was at dermatologist for a completely different issue, no intention of her looking at my scalp, but she did and immediately wanted to take a biopsy. She said the name and said, no, this was a brand new issue, and the biopsy came back as the lichen planopilaris. I just had my first set of scalp injections today. Anyway, if anyone else is dealing with this, would be very interested in treatment plans, etc.

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@ginyer

I could be wrong as I've just started trying to research the situation, but I think the difference is that the planopilaris is strictly the scalp as opposed to oral, etc. I had had bouts of hair shedding over the years, but it would usually stop..this was so much worse and has been like a year and a half since it got so extreme but I was taking vitamins, etc., that I thought would promote regrowth, but had no idea that is no option with this autoimmune disorder or that I even had an auto immune disorder. it cannot regrow once it is gone with this diagnosis. I have other conditions such as diabetes, etc., but nothing that contributed to this I don't think. I hope you are able to get a biopsy if one is needed...I was lucky that thankfully the dr noticed and acted quickly. I was actually at the visit for an unrelated issue so For that I am grateful.

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I was wondering what vitamins you were taking, I would like to try and see if they might help me.

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@nets2020

I was diagnosed with lichen planopilaris 13 months ago by my dermatologist during an annual skin cancer screening. I have had steroid shots in my scalp every 3 months, I take 200 mg of hydroxychloroquine twice daily. I put a mixture of fluocinonide0.05% and men’s romaine (half and half) on my scalp every night. I bought a laser had and use it every other day for 30 minutes. I also tried PRP (had three treatments). I discontinued that treatment because initially I lost a lot more hair. I do not seem to be losing a lot of hair now, still have scarring bald spots that will never regrow hair. I always have new hair coming in, sometimes more than others. I would like to know if anyone has shampoo products to recommend. My hairdresser colors my hair with henna . I am only washing my hair once a week and do not use a hair dryer. Would like to hear from others with this problem.

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My dermatologist prescribed ketoconazole shampoo and told me to alternate it with Head and Shoulders.

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@erikas

@bjf63 Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. A place to give and get support.
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You are newly diagnosed with LPP, you are taking Clobetasol and steroids occasionally, and you recently had COVID-19. Since COVID-19 you are not able to get your LPP under control and your hair is shedding more than normal. You are looking to connect with members for suggestions and/or support.

Members like @tsafer @fdixon63 @ginyer @lorrainechavez @nets2020 @siroisjli @pat68 @lfj9487 @joy4trees @fdixon63 have experience with this topic and may be able to comment.

I'm wondering if you had shedding before COVID-19 and if it is a known side effect of LPP and/or the medications you are currently taking?

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My dermatologist prescribed ketoconazole shampoo and told me to alternate it with Head and Shoulders shampoo.

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I was diagnosed with Lichen Planopilaris in October of 2022. I already had a great deal of hair loss and the diagnosis was a surprise. My doctor thought my hair loss was due to my dematitis herpetiformis and celiac disease. I took Plaquinil and minoxidil for 6 months, plus a topical steroid. I have only lost more hair. I have stopped taking both drugs since it doesn't seem to be helping and I don't have much new hair growth.

I think I had LP for at least 2 years before it was diagnosed. I also have Hashimoto's disease - since 1984. The Celiac and DH were diagnosed in 2019. So many autoimmune diseases, it's very difficult to deal with.

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I just came across the website and wanted to share my experience in case its helpful to anyone else. I understand how devastating it can be. I was diagnosed with undifferentiated connective tissue disorder as well as lichen planopilaris about 10 years ago. For the UCTD, my symptom was mostly joint pain that moved around sometimes all joints, the LP, my scalp felt like it was burning and I had some diffuse hair loss. I went on plaquenil (hydroxycholoroquine) for about 8 years, 200 mg a day. I had very good success with it and my symptoms went away. I was very consistent with my eye scans to ensure no damage. Unfortunately I recently learned I have some hearing loss and it is not possible to tell if it is related to toxicity of the medication, my lupus type of disease or aging though I am in my 50s and am not exposed to loud music or noise on a regular basis. If you decide to go on plaquenil, I recommend having a baseline hearing test as well as regular checkins. The more I read about long term plaquenil use the more concerned I grew and I decided to go off of it. It will take awhile to get out of my system but I am doing two things in the meantime that I believe are helping me. 1. Low dose naltrexone when my symptoms flare. It is an off label use of the medication and frustratingly there have not been a lot of studies. If you want to learn more about it, you will likely need to reach out to an alternative/functional medicine doctor. 2. I am following a plant based autoimmune diet that uses "hyper nutrition" to improve gut health which is supposedly where autoimmune and inflammation is rooted (along with genetics etc). I had been gluten free for 8 years and thought I had a healthy diet but ate plenty of meat, dairy and fish. This has been a MAJOR change to my life however I am thrilled that I am feeling really good. By nature I am a very skeptical person but I was desperate and couldn't think of a reason dark leafy greens (spinach, kale) and flax seed smoothies could do anything but help my health. I did not pay for any expensive program and have just been following the protocol on my own. Anyway, I hope this offers ideas and support to someone who needs it.

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Hi,
I was recently diagnosed with LPP. I have alway had very thick, course, curly hair and it is very overwhelming all of a sudden to be losing my hair. I am trying to come to terms with the whole thing...some days are better than other days. I have had two rounds of the cortisone shots in my scalp. First round of shots gave me some relief but the second round isn't helping. I am trying to get an appt with a specialist in the SF Bay Area but that is very difficult. UCSF isn't accepting any appts and no waitlist. Trying to get appts with Stanford and UC Davis Hair Clinics.
In the meantime, open to all over the counter options and would welcome any suggestions from other LPP patients. Also, has anyone tried Dr. Gashee products?
Thank you.

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I have been suffering with this condition for about 18 months. Lots of hair loss and red, sore inflamed scalp. I tried liquid steroids that didn’t help and refused any further treatment (oral steroids and malaria drugs) in search of a different approach. I have been having acupuncture for about 3 months, once a week. I have also completed a level 1 medical Qigong course l, and practice for half an hour every day and have managed to get the symptoms more under control. It’s much less angry and red and whilst I am still on this journey, I can say that I feel like this is working for me. Just wanted to let others know if they are looking for a more holistic option. The drugs I was offered treat the symptoms and not the cause. The problem is the immune system and I am working on fixing this rather than masking it! It’s been really awful and a lonely journey with many people not believing in what I was doing but I can say that this is working for for me and wanted to share with anyone else feeling helpless that is open to trying something different

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@808style

Hi,
I was recently diagnosed with LPP. I have alway had very thick, course, curly hair and it is very overwhelming all of a sudden to be losing my hair. I am trying to come to terms with the whole thing...some days are better than other days. I have had two rounds of the cortisone shots in my scalp. First round of shots gave me some relief but the second round isn't helping. I am trying to get an appt with a specialist in the SF Bay Area but that is very difficult. UCSF isn't accepting any appts and no waitlist. Trying to get appts with Stanford and UC Davis Hair Clinics.
In the meantime, open to all over the counter options and would welcome any suggestions from other LPP patients. Also, has anyone tried Dr. Gashee products?
Thank you.

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I have also tried the Gashee products. I feel like they offer some relief but they aren’t practical for me. I have really blonde hair and the smell isn’t something you want to wear on your head in the daytime.. I would recommend the acupuncture and Qigong. It’s been a game changer for me…

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@olive1111

I have been suffering with this condition for about 18 months. Lots of hair loss and red, sore inflamed scalp. I tried liquid steroids that didn’t help and refused any further treatment (oral steroids and malaria drugs) in search of a different approach. I have been having acupuncture for about 3 months, once a week. I have also completed a level 1 medical Qigong course l, and practice for half an hour every day and have managed to get the symptoms more under control. It’s much less angry and red and whilst I am still on this journey, I can say that I feel like this is working for me. Just wanted to let others know if they are looking for a more holistic option. The drugs I was offered treat the symptoms and not the cause. The problem is the immune system and I am working on fixing this rather than masking it! It’s been really awful and a lonely journey with many people not believing in what I was doing but I can say that this is working for for me and wanted to share with anyone else feeling helpless that is open to trying something different

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Also avoid any seafood or anything from the ocean! Things like caffeine can also increase inflammation.

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@olive1111

I have also tried the Gashee products. I feel like they offer some relief but they aren’t practical for me. I have really blonde hair and the smell isn’t something you want to wear on your head in the daytime.. I would recommend the acupuncture and Qigong. It’s been a game changer for me…

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Thank you for your response. I will look into acupuncture and Qigong.
As for seafood, usually that reduces inflammation. Did a doctor tell you to avoid seafood?

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