How to reduce my events while using my Cpap

Posted by alan bruce @alanbruce, Mon, Feb 25 11:29pm

I track my events, usage, seal and total score daily on Myair which is a Resmed product. I have used a Cpap machine for about 6 months and have had good success however my events seem stay below 5 for a few days and then jumps up to 8 or 9 for a day and then goes back to below 5.. It seems to be a regular pattern however I have not been able to determine why my events go up. Any suggestions are ideas on how to reduce my events would be great.

@alanbruce, There are a few reasons I can think of right off. Apneas do tend to be worse when you sleep on your back. The nights it is higher may have to do with your position. Another possibility-apnea can also be higher when you are in REM sleep. My next thought is you may experience a short period of mask leakage before you realize and readjust your mask. If the fit of your mask is off, just turning your head alittle could cause more leak. My final thought, if you are using a nasal mask (one that does not cover your mouth) you could possibly be having times you are breathing through your mouth, which causes you to not get full benefit of the PAP pessure. (JMO-from a Sleep tech in Kansas City MO)

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@tanap1

@alanbruce, There are a few reasons I can think of right off. Apneas do tend to be worse when you sleep on your back. The nights it is higher may have to do with your position. Another possibility-apnea can also be higher when you are in REM sleep. My next thought is you may experience a short period of mask leakage before you realize and readjust your mask. If the fit of your mask is off, just turning your head alittle could cause more leak. My final thought, if you are using a nasal mask (one that does not cover your mouth) you could possibly be having times you are breathing through your mouth, which causes you to not get full benefit of the PAP pessure. (JMO-from a Sleep tech in Kansas City MO)

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Thank you. I generally sleep on my back and use a full face mask. Strange but the higher number is usually every 4th day. I will pay attention to how I sleep and the seal score to see if any trend.

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Hi, @alanbruce@thankful @johnhans and @johnbishop may also have some thoughts about your events while using a CPAP going up to 8 or 9 for a day at times and how you might reduce your events.

@tanap1 – welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. I'm guessing that you also have a history of sleep apnea? If so, how have things gone with your treatment?

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Hi Alan @alanbruce, My AHI is not real steady either. Just when I think it's staying down I get a spike in my AHI. It does appear to be gradually going down so I keep trying to answer the same question you asked. I sleep mostly on my side but my bad knee keeps me changing sides multiple times during the night. Sleeping on my back just doesn't work for me but I do try it at times.

AHI-90 days

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@lisalucier

Hi, @alanbruce@thankful @johnhans and @johnbishop may also have some thoughts about your events while using a CPAP going up to 8 or 9 for a day at times and how you might reduce your events.

@tanap1 – welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. I'm guessing that you also have a history of sleep apnea? If so, how have things gone with your treatment?

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If you decide to sleep on your side, make sure your head is part way off the side of the pillow so the face mask is not touching the pillow. Otherwise the pillow will push up on the mask, causing it to leak. Sleeping on your side is recommended. Make sure your mask is the proper size. Too small or too big can cause leakage. Be aware if you have an automated machine that switches on and off without you pushing a button, just putting the mask down with the mask facing down can cause the machine to think you are still wearing it and that it is leaking.

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@johnhans

If you decide to sleep on your side, make sure your head is part way off the side of the pillow so the face mask is not touching the pillow. Otherwise the pillow will push up on the mask, causing it to leak. Sleeping on your side is recommended. Make sure your mask is the proper size. Too small or too big can cause leakage. Be aware if you have an automated machine that switches on and off without you pushing a button, just putting the mask down with the mask facing down can cause the machine to think you are still wearing it and that it is leaking.

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@johnhans I've tried multiple CPAP pillows, all with no success due to not being comfortable. I use a small MyPillow on top of another MyPillow and have my head on the edge of the small pillow. Biggest problem I have is keeping my cat from biting the hose connector on my mask where the air comes out…she doesn't like it ☺ or maybe she does and she wants more air.

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@johnbishop

@johnhans I've tried multiple CPAP pillows, all with no success due to not being comfortable. I use a small MyPillow on top of another MyPillow and have my head on the edge of the small pillow. Biggest problem I have is keeping my cat from biting the hose connector on my mask where the air comes out…she doesn't like it ☺ or maybe she does and she wants more air.

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Such a cute kitty. I used to have a ginger tabby and he liked to chew the hose too. I kept a bottle of spray water on my nightstand and one squirt was enough to keep him from chewing on the hose.

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@lisalucier

Hi, @alanbruce@thankful @johnhans and @johnbishop may also have some thoughts about your events while using a CPAP going up to 8 or 9 for a day at times and how you might reduce your events.

@tanap1 – welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. I'm guessing that you also have a history of sleep apnea? If so, how have things gone with your treatment?

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@lisalucier Thank you for the welcome! I personally don't have sleep apnea. I have been a registered sleep technologist for about 9 years. I run sleep studies and do PAP titrations when indicated. I speak from observation. When patients return with breakthrough symptoms it is often an issue with the mask. Either the mask is not the proper size, not tightened with a good seal, or there is oral breathing while using a nasal mask. Apneas, in general, tend to be worse during REM sleep and also while sleeping on your back. It is a possibility during the titration study, minimally REM or back sleeping was seen. It is also very important to note the original amount of apneas before treatment compared to the number after therapy. The goal of PAP therapy is a great improvement rather than "perfect"…if that makes sense.

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@alanbruce– I would agree with others about different positions while sleeping and keeping the mask off the pillow. I did have similiar issues with my AHI and it seemed that over the years the one thing that corrected that problem was to adjust the pressure accordingly. After working with the sleep Dr. I have learned how to adjust and sometimes just a small amount will make a big difference. I also agree with @lisalucier that perfect may not be attainable, but anything close is doing us a world of good compared to what we were getting before. Jim @thankful

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Alan, I have been using a CPAP for over 4 years. I, as you do, track my events, pressure, etc. every day and try to correlate it with something – diet, alcohol, degree of tiredness. So, my AHI and pressure needed is more when I am really tired, have a sweet dessert after dinner, or have foods high in sodium. If I eat a little earlier in the evening, this seems to mitigate the number of events. Maybe some of these variables would be related to you.

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Thank you so much. I am going keep a log on the items you suggested and see how it goes.

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@muffy

Alan, I have been using a CPAP for over 4 years. I, as you do, track my events, pressure, etc. every day and try to correlate it with something – diet, alcohol, degree of tiredness. So, my AHI and pressure needed is more when I am really tired, have a sweet dessert after dinner, or have foods high in sodium. If I eat a little earlier in the evening, this seems to mitigate the number of events. Maybe some of these variables would be related to you.

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Hello, @muffy – thanks for the suggestions on tracking events and other factors for CPAP use and what you have learned.

Since you have four years of experience with this diagnosis, you may have some good input for others or receive some insights from others in these CPAP discussions:

– On CPAP and sleep https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/cpap-and-sleep

– On cleaning a CPAP mask https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/cleaning-your-cpap-mask

– On mask challenges https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/leaking-mask

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I'm reading these posts with interest. My mom just got her CPAP machine today with full mask – she's a mouth breather. She's not keen about the headgear. She's worried about feeling too encumbered to sleep.

Any tips about the first night that I can pass along to her?

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@colleenyoung

I'm reading these posts with interest. My mom just got her CPAP machine today with full mask – she's a mouth breather. She's not keen about the headgear. She's worried about feeling too encumbered to sleep.

Any tips about the first night that I can pass along to her?

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Hi Colleen @colleenyoung, I'm a mouth breather also and I was a little apprehensive at first. I think having a mask that is comfortable is key. I got my CPAP last July and have been through 4 different types of full face masks. My sleep medicine doc told me if I had trouble at first to just wear it an hour or so watching TV to get used to how it feels. I went cold turkey though and didn't have too much trouble. One problem I had was the hose getting in the way (I toss and turn a little during the night). I found a hose stand that holds it up above your head that works fairly well. You can put the stand under the mattress at the top of the bed or on the floor next to the bed to keep the hose above the head.

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That's so nice for you to be helping your Mom. I think what worked for me is being determined to make it work. The first couple weeks were not very good for me – I felt like I was even more tired than before. But after about the third week, I got the hang of it and realized I was able to sleep more efficiently and not as long (I get about 7-8.5 hours a night, rather than 9 or so). And I did feel less tired. So, your words of encouragement will help. Also, about 2 1/2 years after I began using my CPAP, I was diagnosed with lung cancer. I am so glad that I was using the CPAP so I did not feel guilty about my apnea contributing to the cancer. Does that make sense?

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