High CAC Score Supplements

Posted by floppingsets @floppingsets, Feb 8, 2023

I know K2, D3 and Magnesium supplements are suggested. Can anyone help me with the exact type of magnesium that should be taken (there are so many) and the recommended dosage. As well, any additional supplements that are suggested would be greatly appreciated. Brand names/dosage.

Thank you!

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Recently, I was diagnosed with a high CAC score of 430. I am 46 y/o. Relatively fit. 6'5, 220 lbs at time of test. Goal now to get down to 205. Currently 214. BP is down to normal levels. Was always borderline high. Total cholesterol 199, LDL 129, good 59. Tri's very low (under 70). For many months, I was feeling sluggish / fatigued / tired during the day. After many doctor visits, turns out I had sleep apnea. Literally feel like a different person after using the device/mask.

In any event, for about 6 months I was getting frequent Vitamin D and B12 injections in my arm from a local "wellness clinic". Both are to help with fatigue. I was literally trying everything. Recently, I read online where a study was done indicating that calcium supplementation in rats caused a dramatic rise in coronary artery calcification. Once supplementation ceased, calcification actually regressed. I can't find any literature where a study was done on humans but I am now wondering if my frequent Vitamin D injections have somehow "calcified" my arteries at a young age. I am now taking Vitamin K2 to help put the calcium in my bones. I am hopeful that once I subside the supplementation the calcification may regress. I'm very curious to see what others think about this and if there is any other evidence to support this theory.

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floppingsets,

When you say, "suggested" - who suggests these?

Provide some links for assessment?

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@mayoconnectuser1

floppingsets,

When you say, "suggested" - who suggests these?

Provide some links for assessment?

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Basically any forum you read about high CAC scores talks about supplements you can take. Most mention the ones I mentioned plus a combination of others. Nobody ever really states the dosage amounts though and the specific type of Magnesium being used so I thought I would open up discussion relating to this.

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My input would be to ask your doctor - any reference to YouTube, or a doctor with a website selling books is - in my opinion - to be avoided.

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@floppingsets, I agree with @mayoconnectuser1. Please talk to your doctor before taking any supplements. Multiple studies show that supplements do not help high calcium scores and may even be harmful in some cases.

I’ve also copied a response from @predictable with a caution about vitamin K, for your reference: "Please be careful about taking Vitamin K! Discuss that with your medical doctor before following any nonmedical advice. Vitamin K is an antidote for Warfarin (Coumadin), an anticoagulant that is widely used to reduce chances of blood clots forming within the heart and other parts of the circulatory system. Those clots can really damage the brain, the heart, the kidneys, and other vital organs by blocking the flow of oxygen-rich blood to those organs.”

Here’s some more information from Mayo Clinic: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/high-blood-cholesterol/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20350806

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@floppingsets

Recently, I was diagnosed with a high CAC score of 430. I am 46 y/o. Relatively fit. 6'5, 220 lbs at time of test. Goal now to get down to 205. Currently 214. BP is down to normal levels. Was always borderline high. Total cholesterol 199, LDL 129, good 59. Tri's very low (under 70). For many months, I was feeling sluggish / fatigued / tired during the day. After many doctor visits, turns out I had sleep apnea. Literally feel like a different person after using the device/mask.

In any event, for about 6 months I was getting frequent Vitamin D and B12 injections in my arm from a local "wellness clinic". Both are to help with fatigue. I was literally trying everything. Recently, I read online where a study was done indicating that calcium supplementation in rats caused a dramatic rise in coronary artery calcification. Once supplementation ceased, calcification actually regressed. I can't find any literature where a study was done on humans but I am now wondering if my frequent Vitamin D injections have somehow "calcified" my arteries at a young age. I am now taking Vitamin K2 to help put the calcium in my bones. I am hopeful that once I subside the supplementation the calcification may regress. I'm very curious to see what others think about this and if there is any other evidence to support this theory.

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Look up reputable government studies .
I am a 67 yr old female and just got a calcium score of 100.
Study was done with participants taking 180 mcg of K2 daily. After 3 months improvement in elasticity was seen along with less deposits but took a full 2 years to really show substantial improvement and reversal.
I was not allowed to share link on this forum.
Natto is also Japanese food of fermented soy beans that contains a large amount of K2 but smells horrible. Sauerkraut is another but suppose supplement is only way to be sure you’re getting enough for the result.
Some comments on here about vitamin K are not correct as there are different K’s .
K1 for example is to do with blood clotting where as K2 is to do with keeping calcium where it is needed in the bones and not in arteries and soft tissues. It also helps to keep arteries flexible.
K2 MK 7 at 180 mcg is what was used.
Look at government studies with a large number of participants. Hope this is helpful

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@poppy07

Look up reputable government studies .
I am a 67 yr old female and just got a calcium score of 100.
Study was done with participants taking 180 mcg of K2 daily. After 3 months improvement in elasticity was seen along with less deposits but took a full 2 years to really show substantial improvement and reversal.
I was not allowed to share link on this forum.
Natto is also Japanese food of fermented soy beans that contains a large amount of K2 but smells horrible. Sauerkraut is another but suppose supplement is only way to be sure you’re getting enough for the result.
Some comments on here about vitamin K are not correct as there are different K’s .
K1 for example is to do with blood clotting where as K2 is to do with keeping calcium where it is needed in the bones and not in arteries and soft tissues. It also helps to keep arteries flexible.
K2 MK 7 at 180 mcg is what was used.
Look at government studies with a large number of participants. Hope this is helpful

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Hi @poppy07
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- rowing Evidence of a Proven Mechanism Shows Vitamin K2 Can Impact Health Conditions Beyond Bone and Cardiovascular https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8483258/

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poppy,

Are you saying some folks showed reversal of calcium score ... that their calcium score decreased?

Yeah, I would certainly like to see the study ... as would another million or so folks 🙂

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@poppy07

Look up reputable government studies .
I am a 67 yr old female and just got a calcium score of 100.
Study was done with participants taking 180 mcg of K2 daily. After 3 months improvement in elasticity was seen along with less deposits but took a full 2 years to really show substantial improvement and reversal.
I was not allowed to share link on this forum.
Natto is also Japanese food of fermented soy beans that contains a large amount of K2 but smells horrible. Sauerkraut is another but suppose supplement is only way to be sure you’re getting enough for the result.
Some comments on here about vitamin K are not correct as there are different K’s .
K1 for example is to do with blood clotting where as K2 is to do with keeping calcium where it is needed in the bones and not in arteries and soft tissues. It also helps to keep arteries flexible.
K2 MK 7 at 180 mcg is what was used.
Look at government studies with a large number of participants. Hope this is helpful

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Interesting research and encouraging. Is vitamin K2 readily available in pill form?

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@poppy07

Look up reputable government studies .
I am a 67 yr old female and just got a calcium score of 100.
Study was done with participants taking 180 mcg of K2 daily. After 3 months improvement in elasticity was seen along with less deposits but took a full 2 years to really show substantial improvement and reversal.
I was not allowed to share link on this forum.
Natto is also Japanese food of fermented soy beans that contains a large amount of K2 but smells horrible. Sauerkraut is another but suppose supplement is only way to be sure you’re getting enough for the result.
Some comments on here about vitamin K are not correct as there are different K’s .
K1 for example is to do with blood clotting where as K2 is to do with keeping calcium where it is needed in the bones and not in arteries and soft tissues. It also helps to keep arteries flexible.
K2 MK 7 at 180 mcg is what was used.
Look at government studies with a large number of participants. Hope this is helpful

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This is really interesting. I have been taking K2 MK 7 for 8 months but only 90 mcg. I guess I better double that for now and find a supplier who offers 180 mcg

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