Treating Osteoporosis: What works for you?

Posted by heritage1955 @heritage1955, Apr 1, 2016

Hi. I'm new to the site and am interested in treating osteoperosis. I'm 39 yo and recently had a bone density that showed I'm at -2.4. So, going through the intial "I can't believe it" stuff. 🙂

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@mistea

Thank you for your thoughts! It's enough to make your head spin. I feel like we are all a bunch of guinea pigs. I do remember reading about staggering calcium with oxylates, but don't know if I could get my hands on it anymore. Perhaps if you take enough calcium with oxylates, some will not be bound to the oxylates and flushed out of your system so it can be absorbed. Makes you wonder about spinach and other green leafies that have calcium and oxylates.

I know my GI Dr.'s practice has a nutritionist on staff - for GI, not for osteoporosis, but I'm thinking of setting up a consult. I'll let you know if I find out anything more.

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I herd spinach is not bone frendly don't know?
It is on Irma Jennings e-mail????

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@callalloo

Which fruit (or vegetables) are you juicing? Thanks in advance :-).

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i juice all green tase terrible but after you see what it does for a few days you will not Quit i am 73 and look like 45 no wrinkles and great for mental clarity & pain
i have been doing wheat grass for 35 years 2 0z that what started me doing vegetable juice. After doing wheat grass for 4 days you will not believe your mind and body but you need a special machine for wheat grass
I juice kale collar greens swiss chard beets 1 beet a day no more cucumbers celery carrots ginger bock choy broccoli (don't tase good but it is GREAT GREAT for you)

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@mistea

Thank you for your thoughts! It's enough to make your head spin. I feel like we are all a bunch of guinea pigs. I do remember reading about staggering calcium with oxylates, but don't know if I could get my hands on it anymore. Perhaps if you take enough calcium with oxylates, some will not be bound to the oxylates and flushed out of your system so it can be absorbed. Makes you wonder about spinach and other green leafies that have calcium and oxylates.

I know my GI Dr.'s practice has a nutritionist on staff - for GI, not for osteoporosis, but I'm thinking of setting up a consult. I'll let you know if I find out anything more.

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@mistea and @etartaglione

Mistea - Thanks for considering asking for the nutrition consult. The pain and fractures are unrelenting and we all need as much help as possible to be somewhat knowledgeable guinea pigs.

Did I miss which 50 oz of juiced fruits and veggies provided such a great anti inflammatory effect? I'm guessing green leafies, crucifers, fresh turmeric, berries, & tomatoes . . . ?

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@notmoff

@mistea - Although my memory isn't the best, I recall my Kaiser dietician recommending taking high calcium foods/supplements along with high oxalate foods to reduce the oxalate effect.
Any further comments about this issue welcome.

I'm now reading the latest Pizzorno book , "Healthy Bones, Health You!" to further confuse myself.

Interesting calcium ideas at https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6276611/

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Thank you for your thoughts! It's enough to make your head spin. I feel like we are all a bunch of guinea pigs. I do remember reading about staggering calcium with oxylates, but don't know if I could get my hands on it anymore. Perhaps if you take enough calcium with oxylates, some will not be bound to the oxylates and flushed out of your system so it can be absorbed. Makes you wonder about spinach and other green leafies that have calcium and oxylates.

I know my GI Dr.'s practice has a nutritionist on staff - for GI, not for osteoporosis, but I'm thinking of setting up a consult. I'll let you know if I find out anything more.

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@mistea

Hi, just catching up on Mayoclinic comments. I don't know anything about Caltron book/diet. I discovered the oxylate rich food issue recently on my own, doing research. In addition to that, I discovered an issue with phytic acid interfering with calcium absorption too. My endocrinologist just told me "more calcium" and recommended Reclast because I also have an issue with possible Barretts esophagus. Still holding off/trying to decide what to do. But one thing I read (don't remember where) was to stagger calcium supplements/foods by at 2 hours before or after high fiber, high oxylate foods. Don't know if it's going to work, but I think it's worth a try. Good luck!

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@mistea - Although my memory isn't the best, I recall my Kaiser dietician recommending taking high calcium foods/supplements along with high oxalate foods to reduce the oxalate effect.
Any further comments about this issue welcome.

I'm now reading the latest Pizzorno book , "Healthy Bones, Health You!" to further confuse myself.

Interesting calcium ideas at https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6276611/

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@etartaglione

I have a t-12 fracture can not pick anything up over 5lbs always in pain can not take antiflamatory pills bad stomack so i juice 50 0z of juice daily GREAT GREAT for inflammation and mental stress !! many benefits also

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Which fruit (or vegetables) are you juicing? Thanks in advance :-).

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@notmoff

I so appreciate all the detailed drug information shared here. When I asked my Kaiser spine doctor about oxylate-rich foods preventing my body form putting calcium into my bones, he referred me to an endocrinologist, but it appears most endocrinologists specialize in prescription drugs, not the effect of spinach on calcium absorption!
Now only 49 pages into the Mira and Jayson Calton book "Rebuild your Bones" that describes the horrors of Tymlos, Reclast, Forteo, Prolia, Eventity and the rest, I am so confused. Has anyone had experience trying the Calton micronutrient cure to osteoporosis? Did it help at all?

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Hi, just catching up on Mayoclinic comments. I don't know anything about Caltron book/diet. I discovered the oxylate rich food issue recently on my own, doing research. In addition to that, I discovered an issue with phytic acid interfering with calcium absorption too. My endocrinologist just told me "more calcium" and recommended Reclast because I also have an issue with possible Barretts esophagus. Still holding off/trying to decide what to do. But one thing I read (don't remember where) was to stagger calcium supplements/foods by at 2 hours before or after high fiber, high oxylate foods. Don't know if it's going to work, but I think it's worth a try. Good luck!

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@callalloo

This is slightly off-topic but don't know a better thread for it. I found this article from the U.K. dealing with osteoporosis and fractures. It lists using a TENS unit as a help in dealing with pain. I had to use one for a year for a bad back injury and the TENS unit helped a lot. I am just putting this out there for anyone dealing with pain and unfamiliar with it.
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"If you're diagnosed with osteoporosis, there are steps you can take to reduce your chances of a fall, such as removing hazards from your home and having regular sight tests and hearing tests.

To help you recover from a fracture, you can try using:

hot and cold treatments such as warm baths and cold packs

transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation (TENS) – where a small battery-operated device is used to stimulate the nerves and reduce pain by stimulating the nerves"
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/osteoporosis/

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I have a t-12 fracture can not pick anything up over 5lbs always in pain can not take antiflamatory pills bad stomack so i juice 50 0z of juice daily GREAT GREAT for inflammation and mental stress !! many benefits also

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@angelas

<p>Has anyone received their 1st BMD scan with a low t-score, like -3.1 in the spine, and been prescribed Forteo? I'm 50 and a little freaked out as I thought I doing a baseline BMD scan. I have no underlying conditions that can explain the extremely low score. Family history of estrogen-receptive cancer puts HRT out of the question. I would like to wait a year, increase calcium/vit D/exercise, and get another scan. Thoughts?</p>

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I am on Forteo for 1 year bad -3.2 no side affects wating for another scan i had a gastronomy at 26 years old i am 73 with a very bad t12 fracture i herd laser light therapy is good for osteoporosis is it true but how much?

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@notmoff

@windyshores - Again, it is good to hear that you find Tymlos of help. And thank you for the updated information about cancer risk.

I am a newbie to all this, gathering information here and from library books which is where I got the 2019 Calton book, probably written before the cancer risk was debunked as you mentioned. I lack the energy to retype more text - my primitive method.
Yes, being frightened affects our health. Not being attentive to risks and finding oneself regretting unwise decisions made in haste can also be bad for our health.
I think it best I simply read, rather than write posts.

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Even in 2019, responsible reporting would not have indicated that cancer risk was significant. Huge doses were given to rats. Forteo had been around quite a long time by 2019. I would view any other info in that book with skepticism! Good luck!

ps There are many meds that I am unable to take. I am highly sensitive to meds, including fillers. This is a separate issue from side effects.

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