Heavy perfume in medical facilities, or anywhere, really

Posted by chicagomichelle @chicagomichelle, Jan 19, 2017

How do we get through to people that this could actually cause great respiratory distress? Even death.

I told a hotel guest the other day, in the kindest way possible, that I was allergic to her and she needed to understand what her chemical scent could do to those with respitory issues. She was headed to Mayo. I imagined the poor patients with even more severe conditions. It was the first time I ever said that to anyone’s face, but felt it needed to be said.

I’ve experienced this a great deal this week, even with clinic staff. To date, I’ve had 0 complaints about MC, but I hope they are listening now and will work to make their buildings perfume free.

@rosemarya

Dear members, @mari, @chicagomichelle, @peggyj4411, @ladycat, @katemn, It appears to me that along with the fragrance and scent allergies and reactions, that there is also a severe reaction to certain medications. So I am wondering if any of you wear a medical alert ID to inform medical care response team in case of an emergency. I wear one, it is on a very nice bracelet that I selected specifically for that purpose. Mine is in case of emergency to alert due to my immunosuppression for transplant medications. It also comes in handy to show to a doubting ER intake person!
Sending you warm thoughts today. And hope of sunshine tomorrow.
Rosemary

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Oh my, I can;t believe you said that! I had an ID bracelet tucked in back of my mind for years. Thank God I never needed one, since I luckily I or a family member could give out info. I even bought my mother a medic alert bracelet but she never wore it. Great idea, Rosemary! Since the place where I am living has only a few of my drug allergies listed, a personal record of them would be very reassuring. Warm thoughts back to you, Rosemary, and have a wonderfully pleasant tomorrow! We are going to freeze to death on top of all the snow, ugh.

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cities have a prescription bottles – u put a list of meds in it and put into freezer. Medics know to look in freezer for this list.

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@rosemarya

Dear members, @mari, @chicagomichelle, @peggyj4411, @ladycat, @katemn, It appears to me that along with the fragrance and scent allergies and reactions, that there is also a severe reaction to certain medications. So I am wondering if any of you wear a medical alert ID to inform medical care response team in case of an emergency. I wear one, it is on a very nice bracelet that I selected specifically for that purpose. Mine is in case of emergency to alert due to my immunosuppression for transplant medications. It also comes in handy to show to a doubting ER intake person!
Sending you warm thoughts today. And hope of sunshine tomorrow.
Rosemary

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I had a medic ID bracelet made for myself. The drugstore ones were a little not my cup of tea. The jeweler is also a paramedic. He said don’t wear other bracelets with the medic ID one as only more confusion for the ambulance professionals.

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@rosemarya

Dear members, @mari, @chicagomichelle, @peggyj4411, @ladycat, @katemn, It appears to me that along with the fragrance and scent allergies and reactions, that there is also a severe reaction to certain medications. So I am wondering if any of you wear a medical alert ID to inform medical care response team in case of an emergency. I wear one, it is on a very nice bracelet that I selected specifically for that purpose. Mine is in case of emergency to alert due to my immunosuppression for transplant medications. It also comes in handy to show to a doubting ER intake person!
Sending you warm thoughts today. And hope of sunshine tomorrow.
Rosemary

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Thank you so much for the great tips, ladycat! I’ll have to ask my sister to get a bracelet for me for when I go out. I understand the drugstore bracelets and those from one of those little catalogs are rather crappy. My sister knows most of my drug allergies, but I am wondering if all the names will fit! I’m not a bracelet wearer, so a single allergy alert one will do just fine. I will pass the pill bottle in the freezer tip along to my sister and all my friends who have severe allergies. Thanks again, ladycat! Have a good week!

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@rosemarya

Dear members, @mari, @chicagomichelle, @peggyj4411, @ladycat, @katemn, It appears to me that along with the fragrance and scent allergies and reactions, that there is also a severe reaction to certain medications. So I am wondering if any of you wear a medical alert ID to inform medical care response team in case of an emergency. I wear one, it is on a very nice bracelet that I selected specifically for that purpose. Mine is in case of emergency to alert due to my immunosuppression for transplant medications. It also comes in handy to show to a doubting ER intake person!
Sending you warm thoughts today. And hope of sunshine tomorrow.
Rosemary

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Glad you like the custom bracelet suggestion. I felt the investment in a petite , feminine style would be well worth it if I was ever alone & unconscious. Hoping you find what is to your liking. Mine says A-fib & anti-coagulant yet is not clunky nor obtrusive.

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@jamienolson

@chicagomichelle, @peggyj4411 and @ladycat, Hello and Thank you for starting this important discussion on a topic that we could all benefit from addressing and discussing.

After I was personally addressed at work by another coworker who was offended (and also has respiratory issues) by a scent that I love to wear. I read our work policy and put some thought into how to address this issue. You see, I use an essential oil that helps me focus (something that I struggle with daily) and believe has benefit to me throughout my work day. After talking with supervision I came to the realization of what kind of burden this was posing on others people as well. I had no idea how it was effecting others in our work group. I was able to do some research and found alternative ways to address my focus issues without any smells…which makes for a happy work group! 🙂

Looking into our dress and decorum work policy, I found it reads as is- “It is unacceptable for employees to smell of cigarette smoke or other strong perfumes or odors while at work. Employees who arrive in the work area with the smell of cigarette smoke or other strong smells on their clothing will be required to change before entering the work area”. This is something that is given to all employees when they start here.

In our Allergy and Pulmonary areas there is verbiage on the patients itinerary that kindly asks for patients and attending family members to please avoid perfume and smells in these areas, which is great.

I also looked into our patient education center thinking this would be a good place to have educational material on those that suffer from respiratory issues and what happens when those patients come into contact with strong perfume smells. I found nothing. I then looked for a courtesy sign or something that states information for patient awareness to no avail. The positive spin…. these are all areas with room for improvement! Thank you for helping Mayo Clinic become an even better place for others.

Do any of you have ideas or thoughts for others reading this post on how to politely approach someone that may have an offensive or threatening perfume on? @chicagomichelle, what was the response you received from the hotel guest?

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Oh Michelle, my apologies for not answering your message sooner; I;ve been zapped to the gills with sinus and eye problems. You are such a caring person and I only wish I could help you in some little way! Would you believe a friend here in this facility complained on my behalf and without telling me, all the problems I’ve been having with over—drenched aides and other personnel? And not with only the perfume; also many other issues with certain aides having nothing to do with strong odors. I can’t imagine what this friend really said, as she is a chronic complainer and a pain in the ass to the entire staff. But the 2 worst–scented and worst behaved aides actually came to work on the morning shift with a definite reduction in their heavy perfume odors! It took me awhile to realize there was something different, but not before my friend popped in and told me what she had done.Actually I was very annoyed at this lady for going behind my back, violating my confidence over some things that were not to be repeated about these aides. They are nasty and lazy to begin with.Now, although one was perfume–free.today and the other very lightly scented, they’ve got my number. But hey, what am I complaining about, progress was made! I see my Social Worker again tomorrow (the first time was, “Oh, just ask them nicely…….) and hopefully more progress will occur. It was so kind of you to offer to call my Social Worker; if the need does arise, I will certainly ask for you to call! We just all have to carry on our crusade against the chemical warfare out there! I hope you are feeling better this week, Michelle. I fully understand the smell and taste of liquids in plastic bottles; yeeech! I have to drink bottled water, because our water system is heavy chlorinated and tastes like Clorox. It is awful! Gotta go, hope you are OK for now! Love, Peg

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@rosemarya

Dear members, @mari, @chicagomichelle, @peggyj4411, @ladycat, @katemn, It appears to me that along with the fragrance and scent allergies and reactions, that there is also a severe reaction to certain medications. So I am wondering if any of you wear a medical alert ID to inform medical care response team in case of an emergency. I wear one, it is on a very nice bracelet that I selected specifically for that purpose. Mine is in case of emergency to alert due to my immunosuppression for transplant medications. It also comes in handy to show to a doubting ER intake person!
Sending you warm thoughts today. And hope of sunshine tomorrow.
Rosemary

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I love a pretty bracelet! And so much better that it is helping you be pro active about your health 🙂
Rosemary

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@rosemarya

Dear members, @mari, @chicagomichelle, @peggyj4411, @ladycat, @katemn, It appears to me that along with the fragrance and scent allergies and reactions, that there is also a severe reaction to certain medications. So I am wondering if any of you wear a medical alert ID to inform medical care response team in case of an emergency. I wear one, it is on a very nice bracelet that I selected specifically for that purpose. Mine is in case of emergency to alert due to my immunosuppression for transplant medications. It also comes in handy to show to a doubting ER intake person!
Sending you warm thoughts today. And hope of sunshine tomorrow.
Rosemary

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It happened once. I slipped. Hit my head Fractured my sacrum. Was alone of course. Very glad was prepared. During the CT scan a meningioma was discovered. No symptoms. Just a common slip & fall in the bathroom. Hope my suggestion allows other readers to consider this option.

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@rosemarya

Dear members, @mari, @chicagomichelle, @peggyj4411, @ladycat, @katemn, It appears to me that along with the fragrance and scent allergies and reactions, that there is also a severe reaction to certain medications. So I am wondering if any of you wear a medical alert ID to inform medical care response team in case of an emergency. I wear one, it is on a very nice bracelet that I selected specifically for that purpose. Mine is in case of emergency to alert due to my immunosuppression for transplant medications. It also comes in handy to show to a doubting ER intake person!
Sending you warm thoughts today. And hope of sunshine tomorrow.
Rosemary

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My apologies for not replying sooner, ladycat, to both your posts! Been a bit laid up of late. I’ve been thinking, I’m really a necklace person, and love wearing my crosses. Another necklace would really be nice, and something I could definitely not forget to put on. I’m pretty sure my medical info could be used as such, what do you think? I would wear the crucifix on the outside of my top and the medic alert underneath. I just have so many emergency stuff in addition to severe allergies and sensitivities. I also have A–Fib, congestive heart failure and have had a heart attack when I was very young, among other little ditties. But I am sure it will worki out just fine. As for the chokingly scented magazines, I am down to one, as I let all my fashion/glamour type magazine subscriptions lapse because of those unfortunate scents. I wonder if these magazine publishers realize how many people get truly sick from these perfumes. But it is all about money, of course. Have a great weekend! And sorry you had such a bad fall that hurt you in a very tender area–yeeech! Thank God for paramedics, how did any emergencies survive without them?

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@rosemarya

Dear members, @mari, @chicagomichelle, @peggyj4411, @ladycat, @katemn, It appears to me that along with the fragrance and scent allergies and reactions, that there is also a severe reaction to certain medications. So I am wondering if any of you wear a medical alert ID to inform medical care response team in case of an emergency. I wear one, it is on a very nice bracelet that I selected specifically for that purpose. Mine is in case of emergency to alert due to my immunosuppression for transplant medications. It also comes in handy to show to a doubting ER intake person!
Sending you warm thoughts today. And hope of sunshine tomorrow.
Rosemary

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Hello Rosemary! I had wanted to let you know for a long time what a wonderful person you are, being a volunteer mentor! I wish I was able to help other people the way you do, especially after all the medical miseries you suffered before and after your transplants! My best friend had a kidney transplant 15 years ago from a living donor. and she and the kidney are doing just fine. But prior to the transplant, life was hell for her. So I know some of what you must have gone through. Yet you are kind and loving enough to reach out to all these suffering people; it is truly amazing! Hope you have a great weekend! Lots of virtual hugs, Peggy

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@rosemarya

Dear members, @mari, @chicagomichelle, @peggyj4411, @ladycat, @katemn, It appears to me that along with the fragrance and scent allergies and reactions, that there is also a severe reaction to certain medications. So I am wondering if any of you wear a medical alert ID to inform medical care response team in case of an emergency. I wear one, it is on a very nice bracelet that I selected specifically for that purpose. Mine is in case of emergency to alert due to my immunosuppression for transplant medications. It also comes in handy to show to a doubting ER intake person!
Sending you warm thoughts today. And hope of sunshine tomorrow.
Rosemary

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Whether you choose a bracelet or a necklace, make sure that that is what the paramedics in your area are trained to look for.

I do not know if there is a standard method that is used by paramedics. Does anyone know anything about this? If anyone with EMT experience reads this, please let us know. Thanks.
Rosemary

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@rosemarya

Dear members, @mari, @chicagomichelle, @peggyj4411, @ladycat, @katemn, It appears to me that along with the fragrance and scent allergies and reactions, that there is also a severe reaction to certain medications. So I am wondering if any of you wear a medical alert ID to inform medical care response team in case of an emergency. I wear one, it is on a very nice bracelet that I selected specifically for that purpose. Mine is in case of emergency to alert due to my immunosuppression for transplant medications. It also comes in handy to show to a doubting ER intake person!
Sending you warm thoughts today. And hope of sunshine tomorrow.
Rosemary

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@peggyj4411. Peggy, Thank you for the sweet compliment. That is so very kind of you to say.
I do not know how wonderful I am, but I do love to chat! And I love being with people. However, as you have seen, I am a transplant recipient. And I like to keep myself in a safe environment, especially during cold and flu season. So for me it is a perfect fit – to chat with kind people like you from the germ free comfort of my home.
Thank you for sharing the encouraging information about your friend who has a kidney transplant. I am approaching 8 years, and I love to hear about people like your friend who are doing well.
Peggy, whether you realize it or not, you, too, are helping a lot of people by your friendship and your helpful conversations here on Connect. I look forward to continuing conversations with you.
Hugs, Rosemary

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@rosemarya

Dear members, @mari, @chicagomichelle, @peggyj4411, @ladycat, @katemn, It appears to me that along with the fragrance and scent allergies and reactions, that there is also a severe reaction to certain medications. So I am wondering if any of you wear a medical alert ID to inform medical care response team in case of an emergency. I wear one, it is on a very nice bracelet that I selected specifically for that purpose. Mine is in case of emergency to alert due to my immunosuppression for transplant medications. It also comes in handy to show to a doubting ER intake person!
Sending you warm thoughts today. And hope of sunshine tomorrow.
Rosemary

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The local jeweler in my town of Freehold Township, NJ at the time was also a paramedic. He just told me not to wear any other bracelet, watch etc on that wrist.
It’s a very good point to find out if there is a particular place on the patient they are more likely check first for medic alert jewelry.

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@rosemarya Hello there Rosemary, it’s Peggy, feeling very ashamed and embarrassed for not keeping up with all those wonderful posts from you and all the others. I have been quite sick these past couple of weeks with complications from heart failure, and was too weak to even plus in my computer. But I shall return regularly ASAP! I also hope I can join the Chronic Pain Forum, as that is one of my lifetime problems. And of course, the heart diseases conversations is right up my alley! Just can’t keep up with everything. Rosemary, I don’t know how you do it, but God must have had a very special plan for you from the beginning! For many years I was heavily involved in a 12 Step Program called Emotions Anonymous, and believe me, it saved my life. Nobody seems to have heard of “EA”, as our members called it. My 25 or so years in this program were the best years of my life. Anyway, I will return to the Connect conversations ASAP. I miss you, Rosemary, and all the wonderful folks who reached out to help me! Virtual hugs all around, Peggy

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@rosemarya Hello there Rosemary, it’s Peggy, feeling very ashamed and embarrassed for not keeping up with all those wonderful posts from you and all the others. I have been quite sick these past couple of weeks with complications from heart failure, and was too weak to even plus in my computer. But I shall return regularly ASAP! I also hope I can join the Chronic Pain Forum, as that is one of my lifetime problems. And of course, the heart diseases conversations is right up my alley! Just can’t keep up with everything. Rosemary, I don’t know how you do it, but God must have had a very special plan for you from the beginning! For many years I was heavily involved in a 12 Step Program called Emotions Anonymous, and believe me, it saved my life. Nobody seems to have heard of “EA”, as our members called it. My 25 or so years in this program were the best years of my life. Anyway, I will return to the Connect conversations ASAP. I miss you, Rosemary, and all the wonderful folks who reached out to help me! Virtual hugs all around, Peggy

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Peggy, It is so nice to hear from you again. I was thinking of you just the other day and wondering if you are okay. I will be happy when you are feeling better . Please, do not apologize for not keeping up with all of our posts. Your health is the most important thing for you to be concentrating on. It is good for you to take it easy and to rest. I look forward to seeing you join some of the discussion that are of special interest to you where you will be able to meet others who share the same health concerns as you . That is what Connect is all about. We share our experiences and we support each other. And we have access to Mayo information, too.
Peggy, I feel certain that your experience, along with your kindness and conversation will be a help to others. I (we all) look forward to continuing our conversations and our friendships 🙂
Please feel free to read discussions, even if too weak to reply.
Rosemary

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