Heard something about COVID and reinfection

Posted by cindiwass @cindiwass, Jun 20, 2020

Listening to some doctors talk on radio and they were talking about reinfection, possibly from feces of an infected person, but saying it was unlikely. My question is — is reinfection possible? Let’s say a person who has COVID19 sneezes and the little covid particle gets in the nose, mouth, or eyes. From that same person. So the question is: is reinfection possible? Or double infection, if you know what I mean? I am figuring the person has the virus. It’s still all mysterious, imho.

@cindiwass– Hello. You are correct, it's all mysterious. There hasn't been enough time passed to determine this question. I don't know what double infection means. Unfortunately, we all have to wait, maybe years to know the truth about Coronavirus-19.

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@cindiwass I'll add a bit to what @merpreb had to say – Everything about Covid-19 is new and more is NOT known for sure than is known at this time. All aspects of the virus are being studied in teaching hospitals and universities worldwide, but much of what the "talking heads" (including many "experts" being interviewed) in media have to say is based on the tiniest snippets of a news release. The best way to get good information is to look for peer-reviewed research-based information. Here is one good place to start: https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/category/covid-19/

As to the news you were referring to, you may be confusing two pieces of info that have been circulating in the media this week. The first, whether one can be reinfected, is speculation based on the fact that Covid-19 is a Corona class virus, like the common cold. It is possible to become reinfected with a cold virus (perhaps a mutated version of the original one you had) so there is thought you MIGHT be able to be reinfected with Covid-19. It is being studied at the U of MN and other places now. No conclusions have been reached.

The second, about Covid-19 in feces, is based on a study of toilet flushing that showed fecal matter can "aerosolize" and float in the air when the toilet is flushed. There has been NO evidence yet of viral transmission in this manner. The solution is to close the lid before flushing to contain any droplets, which will then fall harmlessly back into the toilet. If there is no lid, don't lean over the bowl while it is flushing – push the lever and turn away.

As with all things Covid-19 related, the risk of infection is all about the combination of proximity, time, and amount of exposure. The way to limit those is distance, handwashing, and limiting time of exposure. Here is an excellent, if long, interview with a respected epidemiologist about staying safe: https://www.bluezones.com/2020/06/covid-19-straight-answers-from-top-epidemiologist-who-predicted-the-pandemic/

I hope these bits of information help ease your mind.
Sue

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On CNN there was an interview with a 37 yr old female who had covid-19 it was 3 months after now and she sounded and looked sick still ,she said she never did recover but her last test was negative ☹️ also a Dr said the virus settles on the ground ,whether farms grass or sidewalks I have always washed fruits and veggies now soles of shoes with clorax water .El Centro Can is using tents for covid-19 now

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@lioness

On CNN there was an interview with a 37 yr old female who had covid-19 it was 3 months after now and she sounded and looked sick still ,she said she never did recover but her last test was negative ☹️ also a Dr said the virus settles on the ground ,whether farms grass or sidewalks I have always washed fruits and veggies now soles of shoes with clorax water .El Centro Can is using tents for covid-19 now

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@lioness– There are a lot of speculations where COVID-19 lives. This morning there was also an article in the NYT concerning the virus and being indoors.
https://www.nytmes.com/2020/07/09/health/virus-aerosols-who.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
Linda, from the beginning there have been tons of speculations about where it lives, how long it lasts, how it's spread and it has driven us all batty. There are people who take a long time to recover and are ill for long periods of time. There are people who exhibit no symptoms but they test positive. The same safety regulations still hold true and will keep you the safest. Wash your hands often and for 20 seconds, stay away from crowds, even if you wear a mask. Keep at least 6 feet apart. I hope that you are still doing all of these things to stay safe. It's the best that we can do. Try not to pay attention to unusual cases, they will further the feeling of battiness!

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@merpreb b You are so right it's just craziness we experience now I'm staying safe doing all the right things You too stay safe

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@merpreb

@lioness– There are a lot of speculations where COVID-19 lives. This morning there was also an article in the NYT concerning the virus and being indoors.
https://www.nytmes.com/2020/07/09/health/virus-aerosols-who.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
Linda, from the beginning there have been tons of speculations about where it lives, how long it lasts, how it's spread and it has driven us all batty. There are people who take a long time to recover and are ill for long periods of time. There are people who exhibit no symptoms but they test positive. The same safety regulations still hold true and will keep you the safest. Wash your hands often and for 20 seconds, stay away from crowds, even if you wear a mask. Keep at least 6 feet apart. I hope that you are still doing all of these things to stay safe. It's the best that we can do. Try not to pay attention to unusual cases, they will further the feeling of battiness!

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@merpreb and @lioness, Really agree with what you wrote, Merry. There continues to be a great deal unknown about "all things Covid-19". Shoot, I qualified for the "batty" moniker on others counts, don't need to add more! lol

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@sueinmn

@cindiwass I'll add a bit to what @merpreb had to say – Everything about Covid-19 is new and more is NOT known for sure than is known at this time. All aspects of the virus are being studied in teaching hospitals and universities worldwide, but much of what the "talking heads" (including many "experts" being interviewed) in media have to say is based on the tiniest snippets of a news release. The best way to get good information is to look for peer-reviewed research-based information. Here is one good place to start: https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/category/covid-19/

As to the news you were referring to, you may be confusing two pieces of info that have been circulating in the media this week. The first, whether one can be reinfected, is speculation based on the fact that Covid-19 is a Corona class virus, like the common cold. It is possible to become reinfected with a cold virus (perhaps a mutated version of the original one you had) so there is thought you MIGHT be able to be reinfected with Covid-19. It is being studied at the U of MN and other places now. No conclusions have been reached.

The second, about Covid-19 in feces, is based on a study of toilet flushing that showed fecal matter can "aerosolize" and float in the air when the toilet is flushed. There has been NO evidence yet of viral transmission in this manner. The solution is to close the lid before flushing to contain any droplets, which will then fall harmlessly back into the toilet. If there is no lid, don't lean over the bowl while it is flushing – push the lever and turn away.

As with all things Covid-19 related, the risk of infection is all about the combination of proximity, time, and amount of exposure. The way to limit those is distance, handwashing, and limiting time of exposure. Here is an excellent, if long, interview with a respected epidemiologist about staying safe: https://www.bluezones.com/2020/06/covid-19-straight-answers-from-top-epidemiologist-who-predicted-the-pandemic/

I hope these bits of information help ease your mind.
Sue

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Hi, and I thank you for your information. Naturally I hope I don't get the virus but I do go out shopping from time to time. I try to stay away from people, but sometimes it is hard not to say anything when shopping, at least for me it is. I always wear a mask and am careful to keep my hands away from my face when I'm out. I agree about the aerosolized matter from toilet flushing. I am not particularly afraid, but I am cautious. We do have a health aide that comes to our house 2x a week to help my husband, she appears to be ok, but doesn't wear a mask and I'm not pushing it. She is supposed to take her temperature every day, but who knows? I am not testing her, I'm glad to have her, she's a terrific aide, but like I say, every time I think I have a sore throat I hope it's not the CV19. She is employed by a hospital system around here. Now there is something on the news about a teacher in Arizona who got infected and she took all the precautionary measures. She did, however, have diabetes, and asthma. I think we're going to be wearing masks for a long time.

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@lioness

On CNN there was an interview with a 37 yr old female who had covid-19 it was 3 months after now and she sounded and looked sick still ,she said she never did recover but her last test was negative ☹️ also a Dr said the virus settles on the ground ,whether farms grass or sidewalks I have always washed fruits and veggies now soles of shoes with clorax water .El Centro Can is using tents for covid-19 now

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Yes, I agree, it's all very confusing. So some of us do the best we can by social distancing, if possible, hand washing, not touching our faces, eyes, mouth, nose, especially when out. And I wear a mask. Oh, and I am very wary of going to the dental clinic to get implants now, although I'm pretty sure they will take good precautions. Still nervous though.

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@cindiwass, Hi, Cindy, I'm calling my dentist today for a troublesome tooth problem that I kept hoping would go away..fat chance! vbg I agree with what you and others have written about taking precautions and am doing the same. I am especially nervous about a visit to my dentist although I know she will have taken all sorts of precautions that probably exceed even recommendations for dentists. I'll report back on this visit but just want you to know you are not alone in feeling wary of dental appointments especially.

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@cindiwass

Yes, I agree, it's all very confusing. So some of us do the best we can by social distancing, if possible, hand washing, not touching our faces, eyes, mouth, nose, especially when out. And I wear a mask. Oh, and I am very wary of going to the dental clinic to get implants now, although I'm pretty sure they will take good precautions. Still nervous though.

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@merpreb We live now in a new world yes I too have to see a dentist but leary about there precautions

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@fiesty76

@cindiwass, Hi, Cindy, I'm calling my dentist today for a troublesome tooth problem that I kept hoping would go away..fat chance! vbg I agree with what you and others have written about taking precautions and am doing the same. I am especially nervous about a visit to my dentist although I know she will have taken all sorts of precautions that probably exceed even recommendations for dentists. I'll report back on this visit but just want you to know you are not alone in feeling wary of dental appointments especially.

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Hi, fiesty76. Some things just must be done. I feel pretty sure your dentist will take all necessary precautions. I was in the process of working towards implants, but under the present circumstances, it is not absolutely essential that I have a beautiful smile now. Although I'd love to. But some things can wait. And others cannot. I am pretty sure as well that your dentist does not want to contract the virus either.
P.S. I'm sorry I ever had the first tooth pulled rather than get a root canal, but I had a really dumb dentist, little did I know. That started the whole thing with the mouth.

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@lioness

@merpreb We live now in a new world yes I too have to see a dentist but leary about there precautions

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Certainly understandable. If I don't have to go to the doctor, I won't. If I do, I will. It is confusing, because we do the best we can. Every time I go out, then I go back to the car, and inadvertently may touch my face or eye, I think, uh oh, I hope I didn't get the virus.

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