What helps improve osteoporosis without medication?

Posted by imatine @imatine, Dec 4, 2020

Hello, did anyone here try to heal from osteoporosis away from all the prescribed medications we all know of? Did you try following a specific diet? Excercise? Meditation, etc. ? Thank you

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@mistea

hi dmanduca,
I'm thinking about the Marodyne LiV, but hesitate because of the cost. How long have you been using it and have you had a DEXA since then that shows improvement? Or do we need a trabecular bone scan to see results?
I'm taking Fosamax now, but would like to use as many treatment modalities as possible to decrease my fracture risk.
Thanks!

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I’ve only had it for a month so I haven’t had a Dexa recently. I’m on my 4th Evenity shot. Not too helpful to you but I’m feeling strong. It is pricey but I felt I needed to make the investment.

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@melia7

Isn't strontium radioactive element? Can it do harm then to your body?

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Good evening @melia7 and welcome to this always busy support group on the Connect forum. The subject matter is of interest to so many of us. And it is great to be able to share with others. We need to know as much as we can about our bodies and the many conditions that seem to present themselves to us.

I also want to compliment you for making your first post with an important question...the degree of risk for strontium? Let's open that door.

Just last month, my endocrinologist here at Mayo Clinic, gave the mentors an update on Osteopenia, Osteoporosis, and Bone Health. One of his cautions referred to reports that strontium can be responsible for cardiovascular disease.

I also looked up the "radioactive" element question. According to Wikipedia.....Natural strontium (isotope strontium-88) is stable. "Synthetic strontium-90 is radioactive and absorbed by the body like calcium. Natural strontium is not hazardous to health."

Now, this is a starter. Please continue to ask questions and validate answers. The more we know about our condition, the better chance we have of making the best choices.

Now, it's your turn. What brings you to Connect? Are you involved in finding strategies to hold back the osteoporosis that affects so many of us?

May you be free of suffering and the causes of suffering.
Chris

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@tetris

Margaret Martin posted a new YouTube yesterday about an article in International Osteoporosis re: whole body vibration therapy. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz4DQw2DdA0.

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Yesterday when I put this into my laptop it came back saying the video had been taken down. I just tried again and it doesn’t come up. I’m not too techy so wondering if you kept it somehow and can foward, or if you can tell me something I don’t understand to find this. I did see that Margaret had a short 3 minute blurb on YouTube that talked about this article and what great news it was . Thanks for any help!!

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@artscaping

Good evening @melia7 and welcome to this always busy support group on the Connect forum. The subject matter is of interest to so many of us. And it is great to be able to share with others. We need to know as much as we can about our bodies and the many conditions that seem to present themselves to us.

I also want to compliment you for making your first post with an important question...the degree of risk for strontium? Let's open that door.

Just last month, my endocrinologist here at Mayo Clinic, gave the mentors an update on Osteopenia, Osteoporosis, and Bone Health. One of his cautions referred to reports that strontium can be responsible for cardiovascular disease.

I also looked up the "radioactive" element question. According to Wikipedia.....Natural strontium (isotope strontium-88) is stable. "Synthetic strontium-90 is radioactive and absorbed by the body like calcium. Natural strontium is not hazardous to health."

Now, this is a starter. Please continue to ask questions and validate answers. The more we know about our condition, the better chance we have of making the best choices.

Now, it's your turn. What brings you to Connect? Are you involved in finding strategies to hold back the osteoporosis that affects so many of us?

May you be free of suffering and the causes of suffering.
Chris

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I’ve been using Algae Cal and Stronium Boost for the past 3 years. I actually had made gains in 2 my T scores after using it for a year and a half. Spine average went from -3,6 to -3.3. Femoral neck -1.5 to-1.1. Hip -1.1 to -1.2. I was pleased. However, this summer fractured L1 coming to stand off an unsupported couch as I was recovering from CoVID and had been experiencing back pain in that area when coughing. Anyway … saw endocrinologist in Dec and they are no fans of Stronium because it can artificially boost your scores. I already knew this and had read a bout it in a book the Algae Cal people put out- “Healthy Bones, Healthy You”. I figured out their percentage and thought , ok, and went on because it seemed Ok to me. Now just this past week I read that because Calcium and Stronium are near each other on the periodic scale that stronium can go to your bones and replace the calcium and thus you get a better T score reading however, it makes your bones hard and more brittle. The Stronium in the Stronium Boost I’ve been taking is listed as Stronium Citrate 680 mg daily, now wondering if that’s the “natural “ Stronium you referred to?? I also recently read that somewhere that 340 mg is the most one should take??
Sorry this was so long!! The more I learn the more conflicts or unsettled answers there seem to be.

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@ans I just clicked the link in my original post and it works properly and goes to correct video. It's the same one as the one you found, i.e., 3-min blurb about the International Osteoporosis paper's positive results on whole body vibration therapy. I'm not sure what you did but no need to type in the link, just click. If you did type in the link address, don't include the period at the end -- that was the period ending my sentence.

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@dmanduca

I’ve only had it for a month so I haven’t had a Dexa recently. I’m on my 4th Evenity shot. Not too helpful to you but I’m feeling strong. It is pricey but I felt I needed to make the investment.

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I hope it works for you! Meds are costly in many ways, $$ and side effects etc. So if the Marodyne LiV helps I may get one too! Yesterday I sent an email to my endocrinologist with a link to a study recently discussed by Margaret Martin, PT, which discussed the LiV quite favorably and asked for her to review and comment. But the docs sure are reluctant to recommend anything other than meds and calcium supplements.

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@artscaping

Good evening @melia7 and welcome to this always busy support group on the Connect forum. The subject matter is of interest to so many of us. And it is great to be able to share with others. We need to know as much as we can about our bodies and the many conditions that seem to present themselves to us.

I also want to compliment you for making your first post with an important question...the degree of risk for strontium? Let's open that door.

Just last month, my endocrinologist here at Mayo Clinic, gave the mentors an update on Osteopenia, Osteoporosis, and Bone Health. One of his cautions referred to reports that strontium can be responsible for cardiovascular disease.

I also looked up the "radioactive" element question. According to Wikipedia.....Natural strontium (isotope strontium-88) is stable. "Synthetic strontium-90 is radioactive and absorbed by the body like calcium. Natural strontium is not hazardous to health."

Now, this is a starter. Please continue to ask questions and validate answers. The more we know about our condition, the better chance we have of making the best choices.

Now, it's your turn. What brings you to Connect? Are you involved in finding strategies to hold back the osteoporosis that affects so many of us?

May you be free of suffering and the causes of suffering.
Chris

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Hello Chris and thanks for your mail and information. As to me, indeed I was diagnosed recently with osteoporosis and prescribed alendronic acid with cholecalciferol. As soon as I read feedbacks from patients taking this medicine, I felt a need for a support. As many others in this forum, I have to make a difficult decision if I should take the medicine or not. For many years I lived in Norway, and I am sure that a lack of light and of vitamin D have contributed to my condition. Without vitamin D or with low level of it, calcium is not assimilated by our bodies. Most people in Norway take everyday fish oil, but it seems that it in reality cannot help everybody. I have anticipated that at some stage I can get osteoporosis, and now I am trying to move to southern Spain. However, osteoporosis is already shaping my life condition and style. I shall be happy to share my experience, and I started to read all messages of this forum gratefully.

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@mistea

I hope it works for you! Meds are costly in many ways, $$ and side effects etc. So if the Marodyne LiV helps I may get one too! Yesterday I sent an email to my endocrinologist with a link to a study recently discussed by Margaret Martin, PT, which discussed the LiV quite favorably and asked for her to review and comment. But the docs sure are reluctant to recommend anything other than meds and calcium supplements.

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The Marodyne LiV is approved in several counties outside of the USA. As a class 1 medical device. According to the inventor, Eric Rubin, in the USA it’s a class 2 medical device. Their study proves it builds bone but in the USA they’d have to prove it reduces fractures. The costs are prohibited to conduct such a study.

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@melia7

Isn't strontium radioactive element? Can it do harm then to your body?

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No it is not radioactive. That has been a source of confusion. Strontium 90 is radioactive but that is entirely different from the strontium taken as a dietary supplement for bones, which is not.

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@melia7

Hello Chris and thanks for your mail and information. As to me, indeed I was diagnosed recently with osteoporosis and prescribed alendronic acid with cholecalciferol. As soon as I read feedbacks from patients taking this medicine, I felt a need for a support. As many others in this forum, I have to make a difficult decision if I should take the medicine or not. For many years I lived in Norway, and I am sure that a lack of light and of vitamin D have contributed to my condition. Without vitamin D or with low level of it, calcium is not assimilated by our bodies. Most people in Norway take everyday fish oil, but it seems that it in reality cannot help everybody. I have anticipated that at some stage I can get osteoporosis, and now I am trying to move to southern Spain. However, osteoporosis is already shaping my life condition and style. I shall be happy to share my experience, and I started to read all messages of this forum gratefully.

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Hi there @melia7, wow that was quick. Thanks for your reply. I understand about the Vitamin D issue. I lived in Delaware where the sun has a problem showing up way too many days, especially in Fall and Winter.

So you are taking "Fosamax with Vitamin D (cholecalciferol). I am finally on Fosamax and I try to take a river walk in the sunshine at least 3 times a week. So, we are on the same page, so to speak.

Please share your experience after you have had a chance to see how others in this forum have made their decisions. When you say move to southern Spain, how might that environment affect your body's ability to assimilate calcium?

May you be safe, free, and protected from inner and outer harm.
Chris

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