He wants a divorce; we are both turning 70

Posted by slarson14 @slarson14, Jul 10 4:50pm

Am so afraid I am going to end up homeless.

We married at 59 and now he wants out.

"We no longer have anything in common" was announced when I said he would "have to pay for a much wanted (by him) trip to Europe because I am done taking money out of my IRA".

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Oddly, I had a meeting with a contractor today and he and I had a spiritual discussion and it led me that direction, as you suggest.

Thank you. Back to searching for a church again.

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@slarson14 Thanks for sharing that about the contractor. Interesting, isn’t it, how these serendipitous encounters can lead to something meaningful?

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@slarson14 Thanks for sharing that about the contractor. Interesting, isn’t it, how these serendipitous encounters can lead to something meaningful?

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Yes. It was like a message from God to not forget to look to Him first.

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Thank you. Have been seeking employment for years. However, I had only one job in 12 years.
I never planned on retiring at all. Work was one of my happy places in life.

I have even tried volunteer work. Volunteer work is always so menial and no physicality to it, usually. I want to be up and going, not parked at some desk or stuffing envelops.

I do not have a bad history of work, either. Because I was on disability for 10 years, when I got better, no one wants to hire me at my age.

I watch and visit places I apply to - I see they hire kids and adults much younger than I, all the time...see them training them; but not me.

Age discrimination exists. Have applied to everything imaginable, don't mind minimum wage, even. I love working as it keeps me busy and feeling productive, more secure.

No one seems to think someone at 70 can move and lift and DO things.

Even at the State employment office I went to. THEY suggested I "try a community center for seniors". I said: "What type of job?" They said: "Oh, it isn't a job, you can go there and play board games, socialize with other's your age...you know....".

I was speechless.

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Hi Slarson,
I know exactly how you feel when they won't hire you. I went through the same thing when I was in my middle forties and back then in the early 1990's, being a woman was looked on as defective as far as hiring was concerned. I had good work experience and a Master's degree but that didn't phase them at all. I finally found a job working as a desk clerk in a Seattle hotel but that didn't really fit with the Master's degree but it did buy the groceries. Plus it turned out to be a really fun job. It was near the University of Washington so we had guests from all over the world who had business at the University. I enjoyed meeting people from England, Russia, Africa, China, Japan etc. I amazed myself at how good I could communicate with people who didn't speak much English and I don't speak another language.

Keep looking and you will find the right job for you; even at 70! I would think that they would want someone who liked working as you do. Say a prayer about it and God will direct you to the right job. I'll say a prayer for you also.
I wish you the best!
PML

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Inflation over ten years has landed me right back to thinking about getting a small RV and truck and living the rest of my life in that, as I was doing before I met him - back then I didn't even have social security. I was disabled, and have been getting better over the years, but getting hired at my age and having been on the disabled status for 9 years...no one wants to see a blank on a resume, they want to know what you were doing...and a 9 year gap that states "I was on disability due to complex PTSD" gets rejected. Like it has for me the last 10 years.

Well, I am not going to wallow in self pity...I will move forward. We owned land (no house on it) and he gave me the land because he wanted to move back to his home state where we moved here from 4 years ago. This is my home state; he had agreed to move here if I stayed in his home state five more years, and I did; then we moved here. I thought we were building a house together - but now will have to find a way to build it on my own.

I will have to find some bank, perhaps the VA, who will give me a loan that will keep my housing under $1300 a month. That is all I can afford.

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I will move forward👍 not wallow 👍

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@slarson14 Did you divide all real estate assets 50/50? Do you still own a house together in his home state? If he “gave” you the land, did he keep the other house? You deserve half of all assets.
What if you sell the real estate and rent income based elderly housing? Building a home is very expensive. Or, you could look at putting a mobile home or prefab tiny home on the land. Is it a lot or acreage? Could you build a duplex and rent one side to help make payments? I don’t know the zoning of your lot, but look at all the possibilities. Where are you living right now? You don’t need to be homeless. There has to be a way.

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Hi Slarson,
I know exactly how you feel when they won't hire you. I went through the same thing when I was in my middle forties and back then in the early 1990's, being a woman was looked on as defective as far as hiring was concerned. I had good work experience and a Master's degree but that didn't phase them at all. I finally found a job working as a desk clerk in a Seattle hotel but that didn't really fit with the Master's degree but it did buy the groceries. Plus it turned out to be a really fun job. It was near the University of Washington so we had guests from all over the world who had business at the University. I enjoyed meeting people from England, Russia, Africa, China, Japan etc. I amazed myself at how good I could communicate with people who didn't speak much English and I don't speak another language.

Keep looking and you will find the right job for you; even at 70! I would think that they would want someone who liked working as you do. Say a prayer about it and God will direct you to the right job. I'll say a prayer for you also.
I wish you the best!
PML

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Thank you so much for the words of encouragement and understanding what it is like trying to get hired - somewhere.

Three years ago, I left my spouse because we were doing nothing but arguing over HIS choice not to wear his great hearing aides! For 7 years he just kept blaming me for not doing as he wanted and: "come stand directly in front of me, if you want to speak to me" ; "don't mumble" (I do not mumble); his not wearing them was making him a cranky old man and his frustration at having to constantly use his brain to decipher language made him a bear to me as well as when he was in public - he got mad at other people for not speaking loud and mumbling, too! It was horrible. And the volume of the television? Even at the volume he kept it at he would STILL ask me "What did they say?"....it was just unlivable. However: when he'd wear to do that if he'd have just agreed to put in his hearing aides and wear them. I EVEN went out and got hearing aides MYSELF to try to set an example that it was no big deal to wear hearing aides, no shame, no effort, etc.

SO: when I left him that time, I told him I would come back when he took responsibility for HIS hearing loss. I did get a job as a counter clerk at a donut shop for three months. (That is how long it took for my spouse to come to the reality it was his hearing that was creating communication issues.) I dearly loved the work and it was the first time I'd been hired in 9 years. It was only $11.30 an hour; she moved me up to shift manager and closer (on my own). The way I got it was just getting to know the owner and then she hired me! It was fabulous. I ended up leaving because I could not support myself, my car broke down and I didn't have $ to fix it on just my income, and I began getting bouts of high blood pressure and ended up in ERs (thank God I had insurance) and then spouse decided to promise to wear the hearing aides if I'd "come home".

I have tried finding a job over and over since I have been back home, but this is a smaller town. Tucson vs San Antonio - MANY more jobs in San Antonio. Tucson is a retirement town, and the job market is tight.

But your encouragement gives me hope! Thank you SO much.

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@slarson14 Did you divide all real estate assets 50/50? Do you still own a house together in his home state? If he “gave” you the land, did he keep the other house? You deserve half of all assets.
What if you sell the real estate and rent income based elderly housing? Building a home is very expensive. Or, you could look at putting a mobile home or prefab tiny home on the land. Is it a lot or acreage? Could you build a duplex and rent one side to help make payments? I don’t know the zoning of your lot, but look at all the possibilities. Where are you living right now? You don’t need to be homeless. There has to be a way.

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Pretty much divided it 50/50. We own the home we both live in now. I took the land because I plan to stay here; he will be selling the house. I have designed a VERY small home to be built on the land.

Cannot sell the land because I would lose so much money in the sale; we purchased the home in the real estate market bubble of 2021. Part of the reason I bought the land was I was going to do Christian counseling and recovery for abused women. I had designed a larger house so I'd have more space for group counseling, etc; but that went out the window as I simply cannot afford the larger design now that he has decided he is leaving. 3-4 years have been put into this goal...but then he tells me he has "other goals" now and doesn't like my goal any longer.

Wish I could put a modular home on the land, but it has a private covenant that requires a masonry home. Thank heavens it doesn't have a minimum size requirement because the new design is only 875 sf. Have been searching and searching for a contractor to build for less than $300. a square foot...

The thought just occurred to me, perhaps I should go church to church in town, asking pastors if they have any trustworthy contractor types who want to build it for $200-250 a sf because that is my high end budget.

Good thing is, spouse can't sell this house before I get that house built. Unless he gets a lawyer and gets impatient waiting for me to get this house built.

Neither of us wants a lawyer. Lawyers charge $400.00 and hour. I simply do not have money to get a lawyer, neither does he want to get a lawyer.

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He has his own income as he is a retired veteran and has his retirement pension and some disability. When we met he was living very frugal as his income did not include SS for nearly 7 years. It seems now that he has enough to live on "well" without my income, he sees no reason in staying together.

During the first years from my IRA and SS Disbility I provided ALL the "finer things", so he wasn't living paycheck to paycheck in a dilapidated old old house with leaky windows, etc: a newer house, a new car (or two), new RVs, travel money; basically anything other than food or shelter.

I also paid for life insurance on him, until he turns 70 this year (then it just gets too expensive for me to pay). When we bought the first house I had to beg him to get life insurance because if something were to happen to him, I would not be able to keep the newer houses we bought together.

We would have rather big arguments about why it was important that if I lost him, I would have to move out of our home. He didn't offer to pay for the life insurance...that gave me a sense of unease....that he was NOT thinking of MY future, only his? Was I seeing this correctly do you think?

I guess I have been a "patsy"?
The problem is, is that he has assured me we would be together forever, so I have been spending as if that were true, loving him all the while.

This is hard to deal with in my head.

What bothers me a lot is now that we have decided to divorce, he doesn't seem empathetic to how I will now be living: like he was living when I met HIM ten years ago. I will be living paycheck to paycheck now.

I just want to die. No one can be trusted in life.

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@slarson14
No, you don’t want to die and we don’t want you to die!

Hang in there and stay focused as to how you will survive.

Find who are the best divorce attorneys in your area and get a free consultation with the top 5. This will eliminate your husband from using the top 5!

It sounds like he is a master manipulator and scammer. Don’t feel bad about what you have done, you can’t change that so make it moot.
You can however, make plans on being financially better.
This is why you need an attorney. A good attorney can get you a portion of his retirement, disability and social security. This won’t be 50% because of the years of marriage but they can get you a portion and you deserve it!

Don’t let him produce a pity party for himself in attempt to get you to not pursuing his $.
If he wants the divorce then make him pay for your attorney and give you a % of his income!

Don’t waste time, research the attorneys ASAP and get your consolations fast!
Do not under any circumstances let him know you’re meeting with attorneys!
He most likely will use a veterans attorney so he won’t have to pay money, so with you not giving him opportunity to speak with the top 5 will help you!

I’m hoping the best for you and please keep us informed.
In the meantime, please don’t think of dying!

Jody

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Pretty much divided it 50/50. We own the home we both live in now. I took the land because I plan to stay here; he will be selling the house. I have designed a VERY small home to be built on the land.

Cannot sell the land because I would lose so much money in the sale; we purchased the home in the real estate market bubble of 2021. Part of the reason I bought the land was I was going to do Christian counseling and recovery for abused women. I had designed a larger house so I'd have more space for group counseling, etc; but that went out the window as I simply cannot afford the larger design now that he has decided he is leaving. 3-4 years have been put into this goal...but then he tells me he has "other goals" now and doesn't like my goal any longer.

Wish I could put a modular home on the land, but it has a private covenant that requires a masonry home. Thank heavens it doesn't have a minimum size requirement because the new design is only 875 sf. Have been searching and searching for a contractor to build for less than $300. a square foot...

The thought just occurred to me, perhaps I should go church to church in town, asking pastors if they have any trustworthy contractor types who want to build it for $200-250 a sf because that is my high end budget.

Good thing is, spouse can't sell this house before I get that house built. Unless he gets a lawyer and gets impatient waiting for me to get this house built.

Neither of us wants a lawyer. Lawyers charge $400.00 and hour. I simply do not have money to get a lawyer, neither does he want to get a lawyer.

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@slarson14 I am sorry you are going through all of this! It is hard aging as a single person financially. I understand. I have thought about much of the same, but from a slightly different perspective. I am almost 64, long time divorced and working full time, but don’t know if I will ever be able to afford to retire. I have been afraid to get into a long term relationship or married because of the very situation you find yourself in now. Even if one was able to have a roommate or roommates (golden girls style) what if they left for some reason and one couldn’t afford the household expenses. Inflation has been so hard on everyone in the last 4+ years. Health is also a factor. It sounds like you, too, are a survivor and have inner strength drawing on your faith. Just replying to you has made me realize that there is always a way. In my job I speak with many people in financial difficulties, and cannot imagine how some survive on so little. It can be done. I will pray you find work and peace in your situation. Do you have family near? Maybe like you said, getting involved in a church could lead to more connections for several aspects of your life, including employment. It is my experience that when we are at our weakest He is strong for us when we call out to Him. Hugs and prayers!

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Am going to try to at least find something. I have applied to fast food, gas stations, all the big box stores. Am going to my third job fair this next week. Am very tired of applying - especially online! It is always crickets. I was offered a job with the VA, a registered nursing position I was qualified for - waded through 9 MONTHS of "we are bringing you onboard" and then they sent me an email saying "We are rescinding our offer because we can't verify you took (this course titled "Nursing Skills Update - which took 48 hours...in labs and cost be $200.00)". I had given them my certificate - but they said when they called the college to verify, the instructor could not give a reference because she had died!! That wasn't my fault, but that is the reason they rescinded a full time job, govt healthcare. I was so upset, as it is so unfair.

I don't think it was that issue: I think they found out how old I was and just made an excuse. The certificate should have done the job as far as "Recent Experience" goes....grrrrr.

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