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Welcome to the Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy (HCM) group on Mayo Clinic Connect - a place where you can connect with others, learn about living HCM, share experiences and exchange useful information.

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Profile picture for Debra, Volunteer Mentor @karukgirl

Hello there @stillstudying, and a warm welcome to Mayo Connect!
You ask some great questions, which makes me think it is how you picked your online moniker 🙂
Here is a link regarding HCM from Mayo:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hypertrophic-cardiomyopathy/symptoms-causes/syc-20350198
and another from the NIH:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5248664/
Have you had a chance to poke around here in Connect? There is a lot of information to read about so many things, not just HCM.
Member @irishpeaks knows a thing or two or three about ICD's, as he lives with one. And the Camzyos group here in Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy has been a wonderful place to learn about Camzyos and the ups and downs of being on it.
You are already doing the best thing you can do...learn as much as you can about what you have. That way you can be your own best advocate. Being informed can save your life!
Do you know if the cardiologist you've been referred to is knowledgeable about HOCM and Camzyos?

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I've always had a sense for correctness which nevertheless can require a lot of digging to verify. Last week I resolved a nagging issue that first triggered in the 70s. Anyway, I have tentatively concluded that at my age, with my other issues, an ICD is not a high priority. Among other things, I found a relevant study that seemed to be based upon appropriate criteria. Being informed can be critical, but few doctors seem to appreciate having their omniscience questioned. In any event, I started Camzyos (5mg) two weeks ago. No noticeable side effects except significant reduction in chest pains and less shortness of breath. I can walk across the room without stopping. New question, however - I'm getting different answers from different sources. Does Medicare cover genetic testing for HOCM, either on its own or as part of the Camzyos protocol?

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I was placed on a pacemaker/defibrillator in 2014.

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I was diagnosed when I was 39 yrs old, I am now 75 yrs old. I had to have AV node ablation because of my afib. Recently I am feeling tired easily.

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https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hypertrophic-cardiomyopathy/symptoms-causes/syc-20350198
https://www.mayoclinic.org/departments-centers/hypertrophic-cardiomyopathy-clinic/overview/ovc-20442502
Hello @jamestv, and welcome to Mayo Connect.
I posted a couple of interesting topics regarding hypertrophic cardiomyopathy for you to read. It helps to learn as much as you can about your newly diagnosed HCM. Many cardiologist are not familiar with HCM and this may be what happened in your case as well.
It sounds like you went on a rollercoaster ride you weren't expecting to take and have gone through a lot in a short time.
How are you feeling now? Have you been able become active again?

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Thank you for your response. I’m feeling great now!! I’m 57 and decided to take much better care of myself. Lost 20lbs by eating much better and exercising almost everyday. Still have about 20 to go. Can’t say enough about the positive impact exercise has had. Taking control of what I can. The afib was really an eye opener for me as I was miserable when I had it. Heart jumping around in my chest caused a lot of anxiety. I was fortunate I didn’t have any symptoms with just the HCM. As a final note, I’ve learned to stay positive and not take what I read on the internet too seriously. Everyone’s case is different.

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Profile picture for jamestv @jamestv

Hello everyone. I was diagnosed with Non obstructive HCM December 2022. My reason for the visit was that I had palpitations that lasted a few days. Was put on 50mg of Metoprolol and everything was fine until this past March. Had a Trans esophageal echo done as part of a checkup to see how my HCM was progressing. No afib detected at that time. Had a follow up appointment with my cardiologist a few weeks later. She said everything looked the same but noticed I had afib. After wearing a heart monitor it was determined to be persistent. Was put on Eliquis and amiodarone immediately. Had a cardioversion not long after and just had an ablation 4 days ago. Happy to get off the amiodarone. My cardiologist never mentioned being at increased risk for afib after originally being diagnosed with HCM. If she would have, I think I’d been more proactive at preventing some of its triggers.

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https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hypertrophic-cardiomyopathy/symptoms-causes/syc-20350198
https://www.mayoclinic.org/departments-centers/hypertrophic-cardiomyopathy-clinic/overview/ovc-20442502
Hello @jamestv, and welcome to Mayo Connect.
I posted a couple of interesting topics regarding hypertrophic cardiomyopathy for you to read. It helps to learn as much as you can about your newly diagnosed HCM. Many cardiologist are not familiar with HCM and this may be what happened in your case as well.
It sounds like you went on a rollercoaster ride you weren't expecting to take and have gone through a lot in a short time.
How are you feeling now? Have you been able become active again?

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Hello everyone. I was diagnosed with Non obstructive HCM December 2022. My reason for the visit was that I had palpitations that lasted a few days. Was put on 50mg of Metoprolol and everything was fine until this past March. Had a Trans esophageal echo done as part of a checkup to see how my HCM was progressing. No afib detected at that time. Had a follow up appointment with my cardiologist a few weeks later. She said everything looked the same but noticed I had afib. After wearing a heart monitor it was determined to be persistent. Was put on Eliquis and amiodarone immediately. Had a cardioversion not long after and just had an ablation 4 days ago. Happy to get off the amiodarone. My cardiologist never mentioned being at increased risk for afib after originally being diagnosed with HCM. If she would have, I think I’d been more proactive at preventing some of its triggers.

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I was diagnosed about 2 months ago cardiologist put me on fluid tablets which caused a really bad UTI he said don't take any more getva antibiotic to clear the UTI Did that almost better then started vomiting a lot really tired slept for nearly 3 days husband called ambulance as I was on a lot of pain turns out I now have a really bad kidney infection antibiotics for that still not feeling that good but on no medication for HCM do you think I should go back to the Drs 🙏🙏😋💜

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Hello there @mummsy, and welcome to Mayo Connect!
Wow...you have had a really tough time, haven't you? It sounds like you need to get over this terrible kidney infection and get stable again before anything else can happen.
Once you get over this, is your plan to return to the cardiologist who diagnosed you with HCM?
It is so important to listen to the doctors treating you, but it is just as important for you to learn as much as you can about your condition, and to listen to your own body. You know you better than anyone! You mention you were diagnosed with HCM just two months ago and were put on "fluid tablets", I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that those pills were a diuretic like Lasix/furosemide? Do you know why they put you on a diuretic? Were you having trouble with edema or swelling?
I hope you are feeling better very soon, and hope you come back and share with Connect. This is why we are here...to share and offer support in good times and bad times.

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Profile picture for camtak @camtak

Hello karukgirl!!
Yes, they put referrals in to both MN and AZ, and AZ is the one who responded.
I saw Dr Cannon. He really just went over the symptom options, none of which I was ok with. He did increase my Metoprolol dose to 25mg twice a day, and that made a huge difference, even after eating.
I understand how the eating plays a role with the breathlessness, all the blood going to digestion and none left for an hour or two after eating certain things or too much.
I can really mitigate any symptoms by staying hydrated, planning ahead my eating schedule with what I am doing.
I almost never sit down!! I am busy and active every day. Tons of energy and I love the outdoors.

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I was diagnosed about 2 months ago cardiologist put me on fluid tablets which caused a really bad UTI he said don't take any more getva antibiotic to clear the UTI Did that almost better then started vomiting a lot really tired slept for nearly 3 days husband called ambulance as I was on a lot of pain turns out I now have a really bad kidney infection antibiotics for that still not feeling that good but on no medication for HCM do you think I should go back to the Drs 🙏🙏😋💜

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Profile picture for Debra, Volunteer Mentor @karukgirl

That is quite a story you shared @camtak! I'm so glad you found Mayo Connect too, welcome aboard.
How wonderful that you are a super athlete. But no wonder you were so shocked. I was too when I found out I had HOCM at 62. Your story is so similar to mine. I was told no more yoga or weight lifting too, because some of the strong poses, and the strain of lifting something heavy could send you into V-tach. And V-tach kills you! And isn't the eating a large meal deal the weirdest thing? Who would think?!
What a blessing to be have been sent to the Mayo in Arizona. You mention you were sent to Mayo, I assume you mean Rochester? That is where the finest in the world are for HCM and HOCM. Will you need to go back to see them for follow up?

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Hello karukgirl!!
Yes, they put referrals in to both MN and AZ, and AZ is the one who responded.
I saw Dr Cannon. He really just went over the symptom options, none of which I was ok with. He did increase my Metoprolol dose to 25mg twice a day, and that made a huge difference, even after eating.
I understand how the eating plays a role with the breathlessness, all the blood going to digestion and none left for an hour or two after eating certain things or too much.
I can really mitigate any symptoms by staying hydrated, planning ahead my eating schedule with what I am doing.
I almost never sit down!! I am busy and active every day. Tons of energy and I love the outdoors.

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Profile picture for camtak @camtak

Hi everyone. I was diagnosed with HCM in March of 2023, at age 62. No family members had this. I was a fitness instructor/trainer/weight lifter for 32 years, so this came as a complete shock.
I was sent to Mayo, in AZ, in January of this year after having congestive heart failure while lifting heavy weights.
They realized that if I do the valsalva maneuver, it has a negative effect on my heart and I don’t get the blood supply needed.
My Troponin levels went to 12,000!!!! ER doc thought I may have had a heart attack, but no.
My BP was at 69/45 for about an hour, until they were able to get it back up with some drug and angling the bed so my head was lower than my feet.
Anyway, I do at least an hour of cardio a day, staying under 120 BPM and I now lift light weights, 15 reps, 3 sets, 3 days a week.
I am finding not many Docs know about weight lifting and HCM.
My Cardiologiat had said I was fine to lift weights, because my septum thickness was only 13mm. But she didn’t realize have the info about the Valsalva Manuever for some reason. It was on my Echocardiogram, they have me bare down during the test, but she must have missed that. So after my second ER visit, the hospital cardiologist saw that on my Echocardiogram there. She consulted with my Cardiolologist and they ended up sending me to Mayo to see a specialist.
I only have breathlessness if I eat complex carbs or eat too much and try to walk uphill or exert too much. Otherwise, I am perfectly fine.
I am glad I found this site, thank you all for sharing, and God Bless!

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That is quite a story you shared @camtak! I'm so glad you found Mayo Connect too, welcome aboard.
How wonderful that you are a super athlete. But no wonder you were so shocked. I was too when I found out I had HOCM at 62. Your story is so similar to mine. I was told no more yoga or weight lifting too, because some of the strong poses, and the strain of lifting something heavy could send you into V-tach. And V-tach kills you! And isn't the eating a large meal deal the weirdest thing? Who would think?!
What a blessing to be have been sent to the Mayo in Arizona. You mention you were sent to Mayo, I assume you mean Rochester? That is where the finest in the world are for HCM and HOCM. Will you need to go back to see them for follow up?

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