Food as Medicine to Address and Overcome Mood Disorders

Posted by nla4625 @nla4625, Feb 14 3:20pm

I’ve gotten really interested in the topic Food as Medicine, which includes research going on connecting depression, anxiety, brain fog and other mood disorders with an unhealthy gut. You can find information about this on gutbrainseries.com. The people who run this website are sponsoring 9 free seminars with 30 experts running from 2/15/21-2/23/21 beginning at 8pm to show how to overcome mental challenges like depression, anxiety, brain fog and other mood disorders by using proven strategies to heal your gut. In addition, they gave away 2 free e-books (Top 10 Foods To Eat to Avoid Anxiety and What Leaky Gut Does to Your Brain). Hopefully, since this starts tomorrow, these resources will be available on their website after 2/23/2021. I am not an expert on this and have no desire to be challenged or debate the issue with anyone. I’m just presenting information that has helped me. Since I’ve been on an intermittent fast, eliminated sugar, refined carbohydrates, and processed food from my diet, and started taking a really good probiotic, I feel 100 times better and haven’t had to use my light box as much to deal with my SAD. It is clear to me there is a direct correlation between my diet, my gut and my mood. As further evidence, I had 2 years of debilitating headaches after my brain surgery at Mayo where I couldn’t work or do anything but try to avoid headaches. Heavy duty prescription drugs weren’t helping. At my yearly checkup, the neurologist said I shouldn’t still be having headaches related to this surgery. He didn’t ask me what I was eating or drinking, and I hope today that has changed. I pretty much identified my headache triggers by keeping a detailed journal of what I ate and drank and tracked my headaches against that…nonorganic chicken pumped full of hormones and antibiotics, chocolate, red wine, nitrates, ice cream, cheese, etc. I spent a lot of time researching headaches, and THE main culprit for me was aspartame. I read about how it affects brain chemistry. I quit using a packet of Equal in my coffee in the morning and stopped drinking a can of diet pop in the afternoon. That was all it took. My headaches stopped. Aspartame destroyed two years of my life. I still suffer from periodic headaches, but usually they are caused by barometric pressure weather changes or celebrating with one of my food triggers. I hope doctors and scientists will continue to do research in this area and you will look into this if you think it might help you. Nancy

Great topic, @nla4625. In this article from Mayo expert Craig Sawchuk responds to the question "Is it true that certain foods worsen anxiety and others have a calming effect?"
– Coping with anxiety: Can diet make a difference? Mayo Clinic: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/generalized-anxiety-disorder/expert-answers/coping-with-anxiety/faq-20057987

I, too, have been intermittent fasting and slowly adopting a low carb, high-fat diet. It really makes me feel great. I'm interested to continue to hear more as you explore dietary changes.

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@colleenyoung

Great topic, @nla4625. In this article from Mayo expert Craig Sawchuk responds to the question "Is it true that certain foods worsen anxiety and others have a calming effect?"
– Coping with anxiety: Can diet make a difference? Mayo Clinic: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/generalized-anxiety-disorder/expert-answers/coping-with-anxiety/faq-20057987

I, too, have been intermittent fasting and slowly adopting a low carb, high-fat diet. It really makes me feel great. I'm interested to continue to hear more as you explore dietary changes.

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@colleenyoung Thanks for your nice note and the link to the Mayo article. Along with intermediate fasting and Keto, I'm exploring tea and all it's amazing medicinal properties. When I was growing up, all I knew was Lipton tea in bags, which is pretty sad. Now I'm trying a myriad of varieties and mixes, which are delicious, give me energy, and are helping me lose weight. I'm actually starting a coached 14 day intermittent fast using different teas beginning February 22. Participants don't have to follow a strict Keto plan but can. The program features Dr. Jason Fung, leading expert on fasting, obesity, and Keto; Dr. Will Cole, leading expert on functional medicine and Keto; and Margaret Ramos. There are two ways to sign up: 1. If you buy tea from Pique Tea, you can participate for free — https://help.piquetea.com/hc/en-us/articles/1260802080690-What-is-included-in-the-Fasting-Practice-; and 2. If you sign up for a month's program through the Intermediate Fasting website. https://thefastingmethod.com/ you can participate with no additional charge. You have to register by February 19. Several days have a 16/8 fasting window and others a 20/4. Since I've been doing the 16/8 without using Keto, I want to try the 20/4 using Keto and will probably do that for the 14 days. How to do all of this is on the internet, on YouTube, or in books; but it's hard to change eating patterns and habits of 74 years. I think it will be fun and helpful doing it as part of a group for 14 days and have a chance to hear and interact with world famous experts…for the price of some tea. Thanks for everything you do help us along our way to better health. Nancy

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Update: I just finished watching Episode 1 of this Gut-Brain Series for the second time. It is absolute fascinating. They are leaving the episodes up for 24 hours after they conclude so people around the world can access them. One of their scientists actually explained that the gut is a lot more important than our brain in regulating emotions and health. An dog (me) can learn new tricks. Nancy

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@nla4625

@colleenyoung Thanks for your nice note and the link to the Mayo article. Along with intermediate fasting and Keto, I'm exploring tea and all it's amazing medicinal properties. When I was growing up, all I knew was Lipton tea in bags, which is pretty sad. Now I'm trying a myriad of varieties and mixes, which are delicious, give me energy, and are helping me lose weight. I'm actually starting a coached 14 day intermittent fast using different teas beginning February 22. Participants don't have to follow a strict Keto plan but can. The program features Dr. Jason Fung, leading expert on fasting, obesity, and Keto; Dr. Will Cole, leading expert on functional medicine and Keto; and Margaret Ramos. There are two ways to sign up: 1. If you buy tea from Pique Tea, you can participate for free — https://help.piquetea.com/hc/en-us/articles/1260802080690-What-is-included-in-the-Fasting-Practice-; and 2. If you sign up for a month's program through the Intermediate Fasting website. https://thefastingmethod.com/ you can participate with no additional charge. You have to register by February 19. Several days have a 16/8 fasting window and others a 20/4. Since I've been doing the 16/8 without using Keto, I want to try the 20/4 using Keto and will probably do that for the 14 days. How to do all of this is on the internet, on YouTube, or in books; but it's hard to change eating patterns and habits of 74 years. I think it will be fun and helpful doing it as part of a group for 14 days and have a chance to hear and interact with world famous experts…for the price of some tea. Thanks for everything you do help us along our way to better health. Nancy

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@nla4625, I've been following Dr. Fung for a little bit too. I find the 16:8 fasting easy to to. I usually only do 20:4 twice a week on the days that I don't work out. @johnbishop has also adopted intermittent fasting.

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@nla4625, I started doing intermittent fasting after watching Dr. Fung's YouTube video Fasting as a Therapeutic Option for Weight Loss. I was really intrigued because I've had a life long struggle with weight and although I went from about 330 lbs down to about 250, I just found it hard to lose any more weight. I had bounced between 245 and 265 for at least 10 years after losing the initial weight. When I started the intermittent fasting I was a little under 250 lbs and set a goal of 220. I started with a 24 hour fast and then did a 16/8 for a week and lost a few pounds but was a little disappointed. I was following @LeeAase's health journey (https://social-media-university-global.org/my-health-journey/) and in one of his blog entries he mentioned the Zero app (https://www.zerofasting.com/) and it made it so easy to keep track of my fasting. I started experimenting and found that I did a lot better with the 20/4 fast losing weight and now normally do it 4 to 5 times in a row and use an 18/6 or 16/8 for a few days before going back to the 20/4 fast. It allowed me to reach my goal of 220 lbs in about 4 months. I was so excited that I set a new goal for 200 lbs figuring if I can get there I will be able to easily using the fasting to maintain the weight which is what I weighed when I got out of the Navy. I'm now struggling a little and bouncing up and down around 211 lbs. I'm pretty sure it's related to my choice of eating bad foods/snacks in my windows of eating opportunity 🙂. So I'm planning to introduce some low carb high fat into my eating habits to hopefully get to my new goal.

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@nla4625

@colleenyoung Thanks for your nice note and the link to the Mayo article. Along with intermediate fasting and Keto, I'm exploring tea and all it's amazing medicinal properties. When I was growing up, all I knew was Lipton tea in bags, which is pretty sad. Now I'm trying a myriad of varieties and mixes, which are delicious, give me energy, and are helping me lose weight. I'm actually starting a coached 14 day intermittent fast using different teas beginning February 22. Participants don't have to follow a strict Keto plan but can. The program features Dr. Jason Fung, leading expert on fasting, obesity, and Keto; Dr. Will Cole, leading expert on functional medicine and Keto; and Margaret Ramos. There are two ways to sign up: 1. If you buy tea from Pique Tea, you can participate for free — https://help.piquetea.com/hc/en-us/articles/1260802080690-What-is-included-in-the-Fasting-Practice-; and 2. If you sign up for a month's program through the Intermediate Fasting website. https://thefastingmethod.com/ you can participate with no additional charge. You have to register by February 19. Several days have a 16/8 fasting window and others a 20/4. Since I've been doing the 16/8 without using Keto, I want to try the 20/4 using Keto and will probably do that for the 14 days. How to do all of this is on the internet, on YouTube, or in books; but it's hard to change eating patterns and habits of 74 years. I think it will be fun and helpful doing it as part of a group for 14 days and have a chance to hear and interact with world famous experts…for the price of some tea. Thanks for everything you do help us along our way to better health. Nancy

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@nla4625 What an interesting topic. In your experience what type of teas provide energy?

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@marjou

@nla4625 What an interesting topic. In your experience what type of teas provide energy?

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@marjou. I ordered the specially developed fasting tea from Pique for my 14 day fast. Here is a link to an article on their web site about what teas boost energy, why it may be a better choice than coffee for an energy boost, and the benefits of tea. https://blog.piquetea.com/best-tea-for-energy/

My acupuncturist/TCM (traditional Chinese Medicine) healer encouraged me to try tea…and I'm so glad he did and I am. Three months ago I didn't even own a teapot or have a clue as to how to brew it. A google search led me to The Tea Spot, and I've ordered wonderful tea from them when they have specials. The woman who owns it credits tea to helping her recover from cancer, and I think she even wrote a book about it. I love the educational articles on their site, particularly for someone like me starting out. They don't make me feel stupid for not knowing something. You might get other ideas on what types of tea are particularly beneficial for what are on their web site or others. I don't take the different brewing time recommendations by tea type too seriously, but maybe I will when I learn more about it. I can only deal with so many new things at a time, sigh.

My only requirement about buying tea is that it be certified organic. I've spent time in areas around the world that produce tea, and some of the growers use large amounts of chemicals that I think are downright dangerous. The web site for The Tea Spot is http://www.theteaspot.com. Nancy

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@nla4625

@marjou. I ordered the specially developed fasting tea from Pique for my 14 day fast. Here is a link to an article on their web site about what teas boost energy, why it may be a better choice than coffee for an energy boost, and the benefits of tea. https://blog.piquetea.com/best-tea-for-energy/

My acupuncturist/TCM (traditional Chinese Medicine) healer encouraged me to try tea…and I'm so glad he did and I am. Three months ago I didn't even own a teapot or have a clue as to how to brew it. A google search led me to The Tea Spot, and I've ordered wonderful tea from them when they have specials. The woman who owns it credits tea to helping her recover from cancer, and I think she even wrote a book about it. I love the educational articles on their site, particularly for someone like me starting out. They don't make me feel stupid for not knowing something. You might get other ideas on what types of tea are particularly beneficial for what are on their web site or others. I don't take the different brewing time recommendations by tea type too seriously, but maybe I will when I learn more about it. I can only deal with so many new things at a time, sigh.

My only requirement about buying tea is that it be certified organic. I've spent time in areas around the world that produce tea, and some of the growers use large amounts of chemicals that I think are downright dangerous. The web site for The Tea Spot is http://www.theteaspot.com. Nancy

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@nla4625 Thank you for sharing this info.🌸🍵

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@marjou

@nla4625 Thank you for sharing this info.🌸🍵

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@marjou. You're very welcome. Here's an interesting article from The Tea Spot about the medicinal values of tea. https://www.theteaspot.com/pages/health-benefits-by-tea-type My fasting tea hasn't arrived yet for the tea-inclusive fast that starts Monday, so I figured I'd better read through the articles and decide which of the tea I have on hand to use until it comes. I think the fast involves drinking 8 cups a day…which is 5 more than I usually drink. The delay in getting here probably has to do with the transportation problems and impacts of the terrible storms and cold that hit the south. A couple of people who post regularly on the discussions I follow live or spend winters in Texas, and I hope they are ok. Nancy

two other great articles about tea
https://drwillcole.com/functional-medicine/your-go-to-guide-to-the-wonderful-world-of-tea
https://help.piquetea.com/hc/en-us/articles/360038328774-Tea-Buying-Guide

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@johnbishop

@nla4625, I started doing intermittent fasting after watching Dr. Fung's YouTube video Fasting as a Therapeutic Option for Weight Loss. I was really intrigued because I've had a life long struggle with weight and although I went from about 330 lbs down to about 250, I just found it hard to lose any more weight. I had bounced between 245 and 265 for at least 10 years after losing the initial weight. When I started the intermittent fasting I was a little under 250 lbs and set a goal of 220. I started with a 24 hour fast and then did a 16/8 for a week and lost a few pounds but was a little disappointed. I was following @LeeAase's health journey (https://social-media-university-global.org/my-health-journey/) and in one of his blog entries he mentioned the Zero app (https://www.zerofasting.com/) and it made it so easy to keep track of my fasting. I started experimenting and found that I did a lot better with the 20/4 fast losing weight and now normally do it 4 to 5 times in a row and use an 18/6 or 16/8 for a few days before going back to the 20/4 fast. It allowed me to reach my goal of 220 lbs in about 4 months. I was so excited that I set a new goal for 200 lbs figuring if I can get there I will be able to easily using the fasting to maintain the weight which is what I weighed when I got out of the Navy. I'm now struggling a little and bouncing up and down around 211 lbs. I'm pretty sure it's related to my choice of eating bad foods/snacks in my windows of eating opportunity 🙂. So I'm planning to introduce some low carb high fat into my eating habits to hopefully get to my new goal.

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Thanks for mentioning the Zero app, @johnbishop. I find it really helpful too because I like to track my progress and then see how it correlates to how I'm feeling, how I'm sleeping and my weight. It can be really tempting sometimes to grab a snack that would break my fast…not necessarily bad food, but something that would raise my blood sugar and insulin levels, and therefore would hinder progress toward my goals. You're doing great with the intermittent fasting; I think you'll do even better with low carb.

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@LeeAase

Thanks for mentioning the Zero app, @johnbishop. I find it really helpful too because I like to track my progress and then see how it correlates to how I'm feeling, how I'm sleeping and my weight. It can be really tempting sometimes to grab a snack that would break my fast…not necessarily bad food, but something that would raise my blood sugar and insulin levels, and therefore would hinder progress toward my goals. You're doing great with the intermittent fasting; I think you'll do even better with low carb.

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Thanks @LeeAase! I downloaded the Cronometer app mentioned by @rjwilliams in the LCHF discussion ( https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/low-carb-healthy-fat-living-intermittent-fasting-whats-your-why/) and haven't quite got started with figuring out how to lower the carbs or what target I should be using for the daily amount of carbs. I happened to have a really good day yesterday and a new weight low this morning of 209.2. I had my Mayo Clinic overnight refrigerator oatmeal tweaked a little by using 1/2 of one of my homemade yogurts (your recipe!), 2 tbsp of unsweetened applesauce, 1/2 cup rolled oats, about 4 oz of 2% milk and topped with a handful of fresh blueberries and a few strawberries. Then when I put the recipe into the chronometer app it told me it was 26 carbs. That was breakfast then I had 1/2 cup of riced broccoli, an egg salad sandwich and 4 sausage links for my last meal. Then I had one of my wife's homemade bars with more calories than I want to count. I normally only plan my breakfast since my wife is already at work when I eat. The intermittent fasting has gotten me here but it really slowed down when I set my new goal of 200 lbs. I do think lowering the carbs and eating more fat is the answer. I just need to figure out what daily carb amount works best and plan my meals a little better.

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@johnbishop @LeeAase I just downloaded the Zero App and the Cronometer App based on your recommendations. I'm technologically challenged, so I really on advice from folks like you. Since both of you have been so successful, it gives me inspiration. Thanks. Lee – it was really interesting to read about the fasting journey you and your wife have been on. I've been having no trouble fasting 20 hours and eating during the four hour eating window the past week. Sometimes I'm not even hungry after 20 hours. I think the Pique Fasting Teas really suppress my appetite and give me more energy, which is pretty amazing. Dr Fung has held 2 Q&A zoom talks with my Pique Tea IF group, and my thinking that longer fasts were dangerous has totally changed. Knowledge is power! Thus, next week I'll add in a longer fast to break things up and try the Zero App. Dr.Will Cole, a leading functional medical practitioner, talked to us too. He just released a new book called Intuitive Fasting. I think I'm going to like it and signed up for a four week IF fasting program with people who had bought his book. Totally changing eating habits of 74 years is difficult, so it is great to join a group to interact with and learn from. Both of these groups have a facebook group, so I had to join facebook, sigh, and figure out how to post. I should be able to loose weight in six weeks of being in supportive IF groups and really get a handle on how to join IF with keto. Luckily keto has a calculator to figure out how many carbs, fat and protein grams I should eat, but I sympathize with John's question of how many carbs he sound be eating. Having these apps will help me figure how many of each I've eaten, which will be a big help. My carbohydrate target is 20 grams a day, which isn't many. I just noticed there is another thread about IF and HFLC and will start following that too. Happy almost spring! Nancy

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