Falling after recovery from stroke

Posted by couldusehelp @couldusehelp, Sat, May 11 11:55am

I am curious to know if others have experienced unexplained falls after a good recovery from a stroke in a 70 year old.

@brightwings

Hmmm, I had not thought of falling as a result of stroke…..yet I did have a a couple of falls earlier this year.
I had a small TIA somewhere the being of May. I also had a full on stroke in Nov of 2017. I have completely recovered, except for missing brain cells.
I have multiple sclerosis for the last 35 plus years. So the falls may be because of that….
Bright Wings

Jump to this post

@brightwings….very common after a cerebellar stroke, which as we know, is area that controls balance. It's all about losing the natural born balace/recovery ability after a misstep. Probably not an issue after a different type stroke, but almost a given after a significant cerebellar stroke. Maybe one of the worst effects. Our natural reflex to correct ourselves, thus preventing a fall, is damaged, or like me, not quite, but almost, completely gone. I trip, I go down. For me it's not about dizzy. Simply about balance. Falling is very much a concern. I'm strong, muscle-wise, so it's not weakness. Looks like clumsiness….but it's damage from stroke. Yeah. Sucks. But at least I can walk!😊

Edit: darn! Thought this was in the subject of cerebellar stroke. Yep, sure haven't a clue about strokes in other areas of brain. Ignore me. Carry on! Lol!

REPLY
@lisalucier

Wanted to check in with those in this discussion where @couldusehelp was talking about unexplained falls after a good recovery from a stroke.

@couldusehelp – how is your gait lately? What did your doctor say about the falling?

@bille – have you had any more experiences like you mentioned when you fell on the driveway? How are you doing?

I also wanted you to meet @hopeful33250 and @brightwings. brightwings – have you experienced any falls after going through recovery from your stroke?

Jump to this post

@lisalucier….after cerebellar stroke falls are pretty much to be expected. I made a great recovery after a large cerebellar stroke. The one thing I did not improve so much in is recovery after a slip or stumble. The reflex to correct we all have, is gone, at least for me, so my falls are easily explained. But, even if a person did not have a large amount of damage, seems there would still issues with trip/slip and correction. If I'm wrong here, I don't mind being corrected.

Oh! Just realized! This post is not in the cerebellar stroke subject. Darn. I guess I don't know what I'm talking about, lol!

REPLY

I also have multiple sclerosis. I have had many falls related to MS. That's why I replied with my first word with Hmmmm, cuz it made me think.
I live successfully with my MS which I finally acknowledged at age 35. I am almost 69 now.
AND the falls I experienced earlier in the year were different from MS falls…
The cool thing I noticed with these 2 falls were I was able to complete a judo roll instead of a fall.
My husband completed 2 black belts during our marriage. I went with him 3 times a week for so many years to judo, socializing with the other judo widows…
But I must have learned how to do a judo roll cuz I completed 2 of them this winter!
.
After those 2 falls which WERE different, I noticed how many things I use in my normal path thru the house to maneuver thru the house. The arm rest of the couch I use as I get up and I continue to hold the wood until I take that first step and the lamp stand and my sewing table and the edge of the wall entering the kitchen, etc.
I live a very successful life this way…and its OK!
Bright Wings

Liked by jmjlove

REPLY
@jmjlove

@brightwings….very common after a cerebellar stroke, which as we know, is area that controls balance. It's all about losing the natural born balace/recovery ability after a misstep. Probably not an issue after a different type stroke, but almost a given after a significant cerebellar stroke. Maybe one of the worst effects. Our natural reflex to correct ourselves, thus preventing a fall, is damaged, or like me, not quite, but almost, completely gone. I trip, I go down. For me it's not about dizzy. Simply about balance. Falling is very much a concern. I'm strong, muscle-wise, so it's not weakness. Looks like clumsiness….but it's damage from stroke. Yeah. Sucks. But at least I can walk!😊

Edit: darn! Thought this was in the subject of cerebellar stroke. Yep, sure haven't a clue about strokes in other areas of brain. Ignore me. Carry on! Lol!

Jump to this post

It's all good, @jmjlove. The original post in this discussion didn't specify a stroke type. The information and experiences you shared on balance and cerebellar stroke are helpful.

Liked by jmjlove

REPLY

Several of you have talked about falling and balance issues following a stroke. Wanted to check in with you and see how you are doing lately. I think that others in the discussion will be interested in and benefit from your responses.

@bille – how have things been with the dizzy spells you talked about?

@brightwings – have you experienced any falls lately?

@jmjlove – have you had any recent balance/tripping situations?

REPLY

Bright Wings checking in.
No falls, my balance can go off as I am walking but use ballerina like moves to counteract my being off balance. I go up on my big toe instead of swinging my foot forward. I will poss there as a ballerina as long as I need to. It saves me so many times. I realized I have been developing this for years.
I also throw my arms out to give me more stability as needed.
It takes practice. Keep going.

Now, please excuse me, this is no joke. I am going to go join the circus.
The fire Circus. I have acting in my blood.
I will share the gift of laughter, and also sneak some healing in.
It’s who I am.
Bright Wings
Loving life

REPLY
@brightwings

Bright Wings checking in.
No falls, my balance can go off as I am walking but use ballerina like moves to counteract my being off balance. I go up on my big toe instead of swinging my foot forward. I will poss there as a ballerina as long as I need to. It saves me so many times. I realized I have been developing this for years.
I also throw my arms out to give me more stability as needed.
It takes practice. Keep going.

Now, please excuse me, this is no joke. I am going to go join the circus.
The fire Circus. I have acting in my blood.
I will share the gift of laughter, and also sneak some healing in.
It’s who I am.
Bright Wings
Loving life

Jump to this post

The circus! What fun, @brightwings! I hope you keep us in the loop with this new fun activity. Maybe post some pictures?
By the way, I'm really interested in learning more about the ballet and going up on your toes to keep your balance. Do you do this all the time or just when you feel off-balance? Swinging the arms is a great idea. (I've never had a stroke but have a Parkinson's type disorder that results in balance problems)

REPLY

@hopeful33250
Laughing out loud! My ballerina moves are so I don’t fall down, never thought anyone would like to hear about it.

I do not feel the bottom of my feet. I can only feel the rim of my feet. If I am going to go off balance, it is from either shoulder. Meaning that is the way I will pitch to either side.
Ok, so do this exercise with me. Stand up and take a small step, you will notice you still have both feet flat on the ground Now with your back foot, allow you heel to raise and leave your big toe mashed down.
So now you are standing flat with one foot and balancing on the big toe of the second foot.
If I am feeling stable, I lift my toe and allow the second foot to naturally move forward. If I feel any thing off balance I simply pause with that very important back toe keeping me balanced. Sometimes the toe is mashed with my heel raised, oftentimes I only notice I am off balance as I have only the tip of the big toe touching the ground. So I simply pause, often with only the tip of my toe touching.
Remember the hesitation step some folks use to walk down the isle of the church at a wedding??
So it’s like that, take a step and hesitate before you lift your second foot.
Any more signs of imbalance, I start to move my arms out from my sides. This gives me added balance.

I think I have been developing this for years. I hope this works for you. It certainly works for me. Bright Wings

If you go to Facebook, search for Cirque Du Flame. This is my circus.
The ringmaster is Phillip Swafford.
Message me, I will share my name so you can find me on FB. I have tried to post pics here but couldn’t do it.
Smiling so big.
The ringmaster told me, he would love me to join the Circus. I will bring the gift of laughter to the stage!! That’s who I am also. You guys just don’t get to see it. Cuz this is where I am serious!!
Sometimes, Grin.
Bright Wings

REPLY
@lisalucier

Several of you have talked about falling and balance issues following a stroke. Wanted to check in with you and see how you are doing lately. I think that others in the discussion will be interested in and benefit from your responses.

@bille – how have things been with the dizzy spells you talked about?

@brightwings – have you experienced any falls lately?

@jmjlove – have you had any recent balance/tripping situations?

Jump to this post

No falls recently. My progress has been good. I have learned that some movements will get me dizzy. One such movement is looking down while I get up from a chair. This always makes me dizzy for some reason. It lasts only seconds so I hold till it is over then continue.

I also still am very careful on stairs. I do not feel totally confident going down them. So I use handrails and take my time. Someone here said their body had forgotten how to counteract a misstep. I think that sums it up well for me. I think this is one area that is improving but it is slow to retrain the brain.

One outcome from all the testing that was done on me after the stroke was discovered was a diagnosis of depression. I started taking Wellbutrin XL for this a couple of months ago and I can see a real difference in my outlook. I have started to pick up projects that I just didn't have the energy to do before. My Doctor is working with me to ascertain the appropriate dose.

I don't think the depression was from the stroke. I can look back and see this has been going on for a long time. However, I think the stroke worsened it. I talked to my doctor about it months before I knew I had the stroke.

So my bottom line is I see great progress. It is going slow, but that is partly me. I want to tackle one thing at a time.

REPLY

Billie, Good for you.
No one ever wants to have a stroke, I see you trying to take your life back, just like I am.
Bright Wings

REPLY
@brightwings

@hopeful33250
Laughing out loud! My ballerina moves are so I don’t fall down, never thought anyone would like to hear about it.

I do not feel the bottom of my feet. I can only feel the rim of my feet. If I am going to go off balance, it is from either shoulder. Meaning that is the way I will pitch to either side.
Ok, so do this exercise with me. Stand up and take a small step, you will notice you still have both feet flat on the ground Now with your back foot, allow you heel to raise and leave your big toe mashed down.
So now you are standing flat with one foot and balancing on the big toe of the second foot.
If I am feeling stable, I lift my toe and allow the second foot to naturally move forward. If I feel any thing off balance I simply pause with that very important back toe keeping me balanced. Sometimes the toe is mashed with my heel raised, oftentimes I only notice I am off balance as I have only the tip of the big toe touching the ground. So I simply pause, often with only the tip of my toe touching.
Remember the hesitation step some folks use to walk down the isle of the church at a wedding??
So it’s like that, take a step and hesitate before you lift your second foot.
Any more signs of imbalance, I start to move my arms out from my sides. This gives me added balance.

I think I have been developing this for years. I hope this works for you. It certainly works for me. Bright Wings

If you go to Facebook, search for Cirque Du Flame. This is my circus.
The ringmaster is Phillip Swafford.
Message me, I will share my name so you can find me on FB. I have tried to post pics here but couldn’t do it.
Smiling so big.
The ringmaster told me, he would love me to join the Circus. I will bring the gift of laughter to the stage!! That’s who I am also. You guys just don’t get to see it. Cuz this is where I am serious!!
Sometimes, Grin.
Bright Wings

Jump to this post

Thanks for the FB page for your new circus, @brightwings! How delightful. I'm sure you will have a great time and bring joy and brightness to others!

REPLY
Please login or register to post a reply.