Failed ablation

Posted by mjq @mjq, Aug 4 8:34am

I have had several cardio conversions. Doctor suggested an ablation would help stabilize the rhythm. Went through many tests in preparation for the ablation to pinpoint the exact area in the heart. Ablation failed within one day and I was back in a fib. Anyone have suggestions on what to do next?

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Your experience is exactly why I do not go to docs. I could write a book on the experiences I had from the very FEW times I went to a doctor since I was 20 yrs old and now next month 77. My best friend in Florida was trying to prove to her family that she was healthy enough to live by herself. She took no drugs and had energy at 82. One number was a LITTLE high so the doc put her on a med. The med caused a problem, so another med. In very few months she had to have one of those daily plastic things to keep track of a handful of pills. She got symptom after symptom and ALL were due to the drugs, In six months, her last symptom was depression. The drugs took away her will to live and she shut her eyes on purpose and stopped eating and died. The doctors orders killed her.

You do not have to take any more poison, the decision is yours. I have read the side effects of Eliquis before and no way would I swallow one. I am not encouraging you to do anything as the doctor trusting people whomp on me. I am saying, I do not believe in doing what others do. I research and decide for myself. I have watched 34 people die who were younger than me, and all went to docs and obeyed whatever they said and did not change their diet one bit and I believe every one of them was younger than me, some as much as 20 yrs younger. I walk up and down steep hills to town every day and eat mostly natural foods. Clean my house and take care of myself. I could write a book, but not room here.

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Oh, my goodness! You were exactly what I needed to hear this morning! A person after my own heart! I absoluely agree with almost everything you said! And once the docs lay a diagnosis on you, it never goes away! I am a retired nurse and I know how to read, research, discern and make a reasonable decision for myself. I know how to ask questions and advocate for myself; this is something that most lay persons don't know how to do or are afraid to do. My husband is a case in point! I have to give him a list of questions that are reasonable to ask when he goes to the doctor and even then, the one doctor said to him "why don't you just bring your wife next time!" So insulting! I am 79 and I can out-exercise a lot of people 1/2 my age. I will not take this A-fib as an excuse to be medicated to death. I decided to take what I am comfortable with and see what happens. I have made life-style changes that I can live with--1/2 caf coffee, no alcohol, lost weight, exercise every day faithfully, eat right and make certain I get decent sleep at night. My B/P is fine all the time--except when I go into see the doc when I get white coat syndrome from being ticked off and then he can't understand what is wrong with me! Anyway, I loved what you said; wish we were neighbors!

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Zebre,
Hello. I have known about my AFib since 2003. There are 4 kinds: you have the same kind as I do with low heart beats. I usually cannot tell when having an AFib session and that can be a higher risk per my cardiologist.
Recommend you read "The AFIB Cure" by Drs. Day and Bunch. Both are cardiologists and EPs. An excellent resource providing guidance, hope and a 5 step plan how to improve your quality of life and put AFib in remission.
All the best...

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Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE DeviceMayo ConnectHello. Is there a way to paste in a typical reply to AFib comments made on Mayo Connect? I see many comments and want to send a similar reply to them. It would be changed a bit for each situation.Thank you.Mike CollinsOUMike@att.net

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Hi, before you proceed with more ablation you should ask for a cardio DNA KIT for heart arrhythmias, for you especially the ones that cause afib. Ablation is not the appropriate treatment if it is a genetic disorder. If it is genetic you can seek out a cardio genetic doctor who can direct you to the proper treatment. My family suffered for years with wrong treatment for what turned out to be a genetic heart problem. Thankfully I never accepted ablation or meds from cardiologist who wouldn’t listen to me. I now have a double lead defibrillator that is right for my condition, no meds. Also, sticking to a low carb anti inflammatory diet helped tremendously for me, many foods that caused inflammation were triggers for my arrhythmia.

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Profile picture for sjm46 @sjm46

Oh, my goodness! You were exactly what I needed to hear this morning! A person after my own heart! I absoluely agree with almost everything you said! And once the docs lay a diagnosis on you, it never goes away! I am a retired nurse and I know how to read, research, discern and make a reasonable decision for myself. I know how to ask questions and advocate for myself; this is something that most lay persons don't know how to do or are afraid to do. My husband is a case in point! I have to give him a list of questions that are reasonable to ask when he goes to the doctor and even then, the one doctor said to him "why don't you just bring your wife next time!" So insulting! I am 79 and I can out-exercise a lot of people 1/2 my age. I will not take this A-fib as an excuse to be medicated to death. I decided to take what I am comfortable with and see what happens. I have made life-style changes that I can live with--1/2 caf coffee, no alcohol, lost weight, exercise every day faithfully, eat right and make certain I get decent sleep at night. My B/P is fine all the time--except when I go into see the doc when I get white coat syndrome from being ticked off and then he can't understand what is wrong with me! Anyway, I loved what you said; wish we were neighbors!

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I live in Costa Rica small mountainous city with temperature average 72 degrees year around. If you were here, we could yackety yack about our experiences.

Have a great day.

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Profile picture for lindy9 @lindy9

I live in Costa Rica small mountainous city with temperature average 72 degrees year around. If you were here, we could yackety yack about our experiences.

Have a great day.

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You lucky thing! How lovely to be in such a peaceful place. Except for the hurricane dangers, it sounds delightful. Yes, we could certainly talk! LOL

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I live in the mountains not on the coast. No hurricanes.

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I really don't know what to tell you. I have had 2 cardioversions and 2 ablations but I still have AF so it is very disappointing of going through so much for nothing.

No wonder my Cardiologists told me to continue to take Eliquis twice a day (5mg morning and 5mg evening). I have a Kardia mobile apparatus in which I monitor my EKG about 3 times a week and all it tells me that I have possible AF which means I do have AF because I can feel it during the day and at night.

I also had a Cardiac Catheterization this past July 15th and the Cardiologist found 20 to 30 percent blockages which he stated it was not of significance, but I do have severe pulmonary hypertension which affects my breathing and shortness of breath. He wants to increase my dosage of the diuretic meds I am taking daily but it does affect my kidneys, so I don't think I am going to take the double dosage unless my Kidney Specialist tells me it would be okay to take them.

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I really don't know what to tell you. I have had 2 cardioversions and 2 ablations but I still have AF so it is very disappointing of going through so much for nothing.

No wonder my Cardiologists told me to continue to take Eliquis twice a day (5mg morning and 5mg evening). I have a Kardia mobile apparatus in which I monitor my EKG about 3 times a week and all it tells me that I have possible AF which means I do have AF because I can feel it during the day and at night.

I also had a Cardiac Catheterization this past July 15th and the Cardiologist found 20 to 30 percent blockages which he stated it was not of significance, but I do have severe pulmonary hypertension which affects my breathing and shortness of breath. He wants to increase my dosage of the diuretic meds I am taking daily but it does affect my kidneys, so I don't think I am going to take the double dosage unless my Kidney Specialist tells me it would be okay to take them.

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How frustrating for you! I have Kardia mobile and it states possible afib when I’m in afib. I don’t think it ever states just afib. The word possible is probably legal protection for them. Good luck going forward. Since your second ablation was recent hopefully your afib will still improve.

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How frustrating for you! I have Kardia mobile and it states possible afib when I’m in afib. I don’t think it ever states just afib. The word possible is probably legal protection for them. Good luck going forward. Since your second ablation was recent hopefully your afib will still improve.

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Thanks for you for your comments and I shall see what happens down the road. But you are correct when you stated that the word "possible" is for their legal protection. I never thought of it that way.

Well take care.

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I really don't know what to tell you. I have had 2 cardioversions and 2 ablations but I still have AF so it is very disappointing of going through so much for nothing.

No wonder my Cardiologists told me to continue to take Eliquis twice a day (5mg morning and 5mg evening). I have a Kardia mobile apparatus in which I monitor my EKG about 3 times a week and all it tells me that I have possible AF which means I do have AF because I can feel it during the day and at night.

I also had a Cardiac Catheterization this past July 15th and the Cardiologist found 20 to 30 percent blockages which he stated it was not of significance, but I do have severe pulmonary hypertension which affects my breathing and shortness of breath. He wants to increase my dosage of the diuretic meds I am taking daily but it does affect my kidneys, so I don't think I am going to take the double dosage unless my Kidney Specialist tells me it would be okay to take them.

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I have a brother who had 2 ablations that didn't work. On the third, they did a two step process (can't remember the term, but gloaming had it a few days ago), ....they went in from the outside, then after that healed, the went back inside the heart to complete the procedure. It did the trick! He has been afib free. ...so don't lose hope. Until his third ablation, he had no energy and was constantly out of breath. His only heart med is no 5mg Eliquis morning and night.

My experience was a cryo-ablation by one of the best electrophysiologist in the country (U.S.), and then a mitral valve repair to be now afib free.

Wishing you all the best!

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