Depression, fibromyalgia and spinal degeneration

Posted by virtuous69 @virtuous69, Jul 20, 2017

Hello. I have Fibro and moderate to severe spinal degeneration, age 69 and husband 78. I’ve had to let our once per month housecleaner and once per month gardener go due to loss of income. We live in Silicon Valley way beyond our income and due to my illness, can’t keep house up.Its trashed. Husband works 3 days per week. End of month is scary financially and husband gets very depressed, sarcastic and a real worry wort. His depression sinks me down like I’m drowning. His company took all medical and vacation/sick time away from grandfathered in employees. I can’t take walks due to degenerative back, we have our Christian faith, but I honestly need to get away from my husband sometimes. My best friend and other confidents have died or moved away. Both of us need to have some fun. Our beautiful church and home group of 15 years has disbanded….they were like family. No money, no health…struggling to keep a cheerful and grateful attitude. Our PC doc gives me a mild anti -depression med. Husband is losing his hearing and that causes all kinds of arguments.But doc doesn’t give him anything to keep him calm.. There is no free counseling or housekeeping help available to us. I take Advil and Norco for my pain. It’s like just waiting for the grave. —Virtuous69

@virtuous Hi Dori, I agree with what Kanaaz said with regards to the ‘big picture’. It is easy to get overwhelmed when things have gotten away from you. I break my tasks down into small ones. I find that if I compartmentalize each thing or area, I do better. For example, when deciding what to tackle in your home: you could say to yourself, ‘Just for today, all I have to do is Scrub the toilet. That’s it. Next say, “all I have to do is , scrub the bathroom sink. Then, the next day give yourself a small task. Then, everyday give yourself a small task. Delegate to your husband too. You said his back hurts, let him fold laundry on the sofa. A little bit here and a little bit there gets the job done. One feels better when they are busy. That is my take anyway. Hugs, Terri

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@IndianaScott

Hello @virtuous69 Nice to e-meet you here even under your difficult conditions. I am Scott and while my wife battled brain cancer for 14+ years I was her primary caregiver. Lost my job for the last five of it and was just caregiving.

It is good to know you are both at least of age to be covered under Medicare! My wife and I were too young for it and that added a whole different level of stress. Caregiving and chronic conditions are taxing for anyone, especially when it involves our loved ones. I am not a medical care professional at all, so I only speak from my personal experiences.

My wife and I had to give up all of our help during her illness as well. It was always a house of cards, where the smallest change or expense would add stress and cause the house to shudder, shake, fall apart a bit, but thankfully we were able to keep going. Maintenance went on full-time delay 🙂 Not only for our house, but also for me. Do you know if your area has any nonprofits that offer hearing aid assistance? That might help. I know from my own hearing loss it can be quite exasperating and frustrating for both sides of a conversation and cause even more feelings of isolation.

I had to totem everything we did based on my wife’s needs. For a variety of reasons most of our friends and family departed from our lives and our community is one of mostly second homes so the local support was nonexistent. We worked hard on maintaining just a few, cherished friendships, mostly long distance, as best we could. We ended up with one each, but they were lifesavers to each of us at different times.

Quality, private time is a hard thing to come by when you have a loved one dependent on you, that is for sure. I never figured that one out, except I took to getting up at 2 am so I had a couple of solitary hours to myself before my wife’s next medicines, etc. Clearly not a viable option for all, but it worked for me and now I find I am actually a morning person (for the first time in my life) and I like it.

I wish there was a magic button or potion, perhaps a genie in a lamp to help in these situations. Moving can sometimes be an option, but in our case the market for homes in our area was not able to afford us that as an option.

Have you contacted your local Office on Aging? Are you or your husband a veteran? The VA has some good resources too.

Peace & Strength

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Oh Scott : I just wrote you a long reply on a berry was getting to the end when all of a sudden my post went into the Twilight Zone. This is the second time this has happened to me. I cried when I read your last sentence that said other posters were proud of me. Right now I’m at my rope’s end and as I wrote before it’s a money issue it is Labor Day weekend it’s also a heatwave here in California of 108 213 and we stayed indoors all day sitting in our lockers with the air conditioning on which is going to blow our monthly space rent way past what we can afford to pay. I mentioned that we had our car troubles and was able to get them out of the shop after we paid off our cars. We were so proud thinking we’d have a little extra money and then Bingo both cars acted up and we spent much money all trying to get the cars out of the shop so our kids are off camping having a blast even though it’s hot they’re always out camping doing something fun and my husband and I just sit here because all we do is pay bills. I had to laugh at your face Chief cook and bottle washer that’s exactly what I am at the first thing I think of when my back starts hurting stops hurting as I got to get up and do dishes and then I have to feed my husband. I do try to plan to get something done each day but I’ve got new developments I’ve discovered that after 2 years of no dental care and no dental insurance not only do I have a massive cavity on the bottom that I have to leave alone and we have no insurance that I have a huge abscess that I can feel on the outside of my face even between two teeth and a failed root canal. So my husband took out dental insurance but it will not cover any Majors like root canals extractions or anything for one full year so I’m taking a highly powerful antibiotic that I have to separate from my other meds and sitting around Labor Day weekend all day all three days and I mobile home is just been depressing as all get-out it was even too hot to try to go to a local park 113° I just want some fun in my life and I know I must be a burden on my husband. He loves me dearly but I’m waiting for the heating pad and the pain meds to kick in before I can get out of bed. I love your idea about skating the kitchen floor I think my stepmother and I did that once on hardwood floors for waxing but I have filthy bathroom floors that get dirty so fast from tracking in Tire dust we live in a Vortex of trains planes and semis going up the hill all belching out diesel fluid or dust if you will. I can’t take it anymore I’m even beginning to think a little bit about ending at all even though I don’t think about being of the real things like taking extra pills or cutting myself or anything that you have to report to social workers it’s just I don’t want to do it anymore I just want the Lord to send me a little bit of joy in my life just a little. And I can imagine how you’re feeling about your wife. A good friend of ours passed away at 870 all they lived in I believe Tennessee and her husband is so lonely at all of us miss her terribly she was the light of our life a good Mentor to me when they lived in California and there’s just a big vacant hole. So my heart aches for you. But right now I can’t stand the three it is no such thing as dust bunnies where we live because it’s a whole house is carpeted except for kitchen we used to have this bunnies when we lived back East where everything was hard wood floors. Right now it’s just dirty crumbs all over the floors Grime ground into the bathroom floors and once in awhile I just get disgusted and make an attempt to do something the other reason I’m depressed is it’s been between 108 and 113 here and we’re sweating buckets and it’s too hot to go outside and everything needs to be watered and trimmed and bushes are dying. in times past we would go to the park and just sit and watch the geese but it’s too hard to hot rather to go out to these parks. It’s cooler today my son is coming back from his camping trip and all they do is party and barbecue and it makes us feel so old and decrepit. I’m 69 and I just feel like life is passing me by with so many hurts. I have a thankful attitude and most of the time I can get myself out of this funk and get going. I think the depression is compounded by this very strong antibiotic and my poor husband I’m probably depressing the stars out of him and we don’t know what to do for recreation because there’s hardly any money to go out and get a cup of coffee because we just signed up for a new dental program and that will not take care of my necessary redo of a root canal or a tooth extraction for one solid year so there there’s my pity pity party sorry to rant on and on but so grateful to be able to tell somebody at hearted I’m bored out of my wits and I want a little bit more fun than watching dr. Oz during the day cuz I’m really not a TV Watcher in the daytime but then I’m going to go out and cook up some lunch slash breakfast and like you said she’s cooking bottle-washer that’s all I do is cook do laundry and clean the occasional toilet and go outside and water after the temperature has dropped. Feeling sorry for myself here virtuous 69 knowing that God loves me but I sure could use just a little tad of joy in my life.

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@IndianaScott

Hello @virtuous69 Nice to e-meet you here even under your difficult conditions. I am Scott and while my wife battled brain cancer for 14+ years I was her primary caregiver. Lost my job for the last five of it and was just caregiving.

It is good to know you are both at least of age to be covered under Medicare! My wife and I were too young for it and that added a whole different level of stress. Caregiving and chronic conditions are taxing for anyone, especially when it involves our loved ones. I am not a medical care professional at all, so I only speak from my personal experiences.

My wife and I had to give up all of our help during her illness as well. It was always a house of cards, where the smallest change or expense would add stress and cause the house to shudder, shake, fall apart a bit, but thankfully we were able to keep going. Maintenance went on full-time delay 🙂 Not only for our house, but also for me. Do you know if your area has any nonprofits that offer hearing aid assistance? That might help. I know from my own hearing loss it can be quite exasperating and frustrating for both sides of a conversation and cause even more feelings of isolation.

I had to totem everything we did based on my wife’s needs. For a variety of reasons most of our friends and family departed from our lives and our community is one of mostly second homes so the local support was nonexistent. We worked hard on maintaining just a few, cherished friendships, mostly long distance, as best we could. We ended up with one each, but they were lifesavers to each of us at different times.

Quality, private time is a hard thing to come by when you have a loved one dependent on you, that is for sure. I never figured that one out, except I took to getting up at 2 am so I had a couple of solitary hours to myself before my wife’s next medicines, etc. Clearly not a viable option for all, but it worked for me and now I find I am actually a morning person (for the first time in my life) and I like it.

I wish there was a magic button or potion, perhaps a genie in a lamp to help in these situations. Moving can sometimes be an option, but in our case the market for homes in our area was not able to afford us that as an option.

Have you contacted your local Office on Aging? Are you or your husband a veteran? The VA has some good resources too.

Peace & Strength

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Scott, I sent this post with out correcting mistakes because I had almost finished his post and then my smart phone lost it. So I had to retype it all over again and send before my smart phone went and sent it into the Twilight Zone again. Now on my computer I know that unfinished emails Etc get put into my draft folder but when it comes to my smartphone I have no idea where unfinished posts go they seem to go into the Twilight Zone. so please try to read between the lines and ignore the crazy mistakes okay thanks.. so part of my depression is that this abscess between two teeth is gone clear up near my sinus cavities and once the medication is over with I still don’t have the money to go get a redo root canal or tooth extraction as they want the money up front. so thank you for letting me rant and if any of you out there are in the same situation or have an encouraging word I ‘d sure love to hear from you. I don’t know what up what I would do without Scott’s posts. have a safe Labor Day weekend and lifting up all of you in prayer who’ve been hit by the Texas hurricanes and floods moving up into different states.may God bless you, encourage you ,and help you meet all of your needs. love virtuous 69 Dori

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@windwalker

@virtuous Hi Dori, I agree with what Kanaaz said with regards to the ‘big picture’. It is easy to get overwhelmed when things have gotten away from you. I break my tasks down into small ones. I find that if I compartmentalize each thing or area, I do better. For example, when deciding what to tackle in your home: you could say to yourself, ‘Just for today, all I have to do is Scrub the toilet. That’s it. Next say, “all I have to do is , scrub the bathroom sink. Then, the next day give yourself a small task. Then, everyday give yourself a small task. Delegate to your husband too. You said his back hurts, let him fold laundry on the sofa. A little bit here and a little bit there gets the job done. One feels better when they are busy. That is my take anyway. Hugs, Terri

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Windwalker. I agree with all of you. But forget about delegating anything to my husband. He loves me, prays for me and won’t lift a finger. Period. I’ll do it later, and 3 weeks go by.Original Archie Bunker. But I’m no Edith. He does what little he wants WHeN he wants.He has become sloppy and contributes to our mess. That,s why I joined the depression Discussion Group. I need to vent! Now I have a painful dental abscess ,on powerful antibiodic, and need immediate root canal or teeth extraction. Husband just took out dental insurance which Will not cover these majors for one year. After back and rotator cuff pain subsides I usually fix a meal run Laundry, and water outside. Heat wave CA has been thru Labor Day weekend has been unbearable. I do better when my husband is at work for 3 days. He brings great depression into our house. He relies on me to.be his social calendar. Nothing on the radar without pocket change…have paid up .most of our monthly bills. Will get up now and fix us a meal. Stand ding on God,s promises and asking Him for motivation to get going. Nice to hear from you. Dori.

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@windwalker

@virtuous Hi Dori, I agree with what Kanaaz said with regards to the ‘big picture’. It is easy to get overwhelmed when things have gotten away from you. I break my tasks down into small ones. I find that if I compartmentalize each thing or area, I do better. For example, when deciding what to tackle in your home: you could say to yourself, ‘Just for today, all I have to do is Scrub the toilet. That’s it. Next say, “all I have to do is , scrub the bathroom sink. Then, the next day give yourself a small task. Then, everyday give yourself a small task. Delegate to your husband too. You said his back hurts, let him fold laundry on the sofa. A little bit here and a little bit there gets the job done. One feels better when they are busy. That is my take anyway. Hugs, Terri

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@virtuous – How long have you been married? I am at an Emerald “Double Nickels” 55 & counting… Is your husband a “Slow Learner?” What does he not understand about the “Do” in “I Do?” Inform him that @catgic Sez the utterance of the “Until Death ‘Do’ Us Part…I Do” on your Wedding Day means he signed up for “HONEY DO DUTY FOR LIFE.” Just saying… B|

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@IndianaScott

Hello @virtuous69 Nice to e-meet you here even under your difficult conditions. I am Scott and while my wife battled brain cancer for 14+ years I was her primary caregiver. Lost my job for the last five of it and was just caregiving.

It is good to know you are both at least of age to be covered under Medicare! My wife and I were too young for it and that added a whole different level of stress. Caregiving and chronic conditions are taxing for anyone, especially when it involves our loved ones. I am not a medical care professional at all, so I only speak from my personal experiences.

My wife and I had to give up all of our help during her illness as well. It was always a house of cards, where the smallest change or expense would add stress and cause the house to shudder, shake, fall apart a bit, but thankfully we were able to keep going. Maintenance went on full-time delay 🙂 Not only for our house, but also for me. Do you know if your area has any nonprofits that offer hearing aid assistance? That might help. I know from my own hearing loss it can be quite exasperating and frustrating for both sides of a conversation and cause even more feelings of isolation.

I had to totem everything we did based on my wife’s needs. For a variety of reasons most of our friends and family departed from our lives and our community is one of mostly second homes so the local support was nonexistent. We worked hard on maintaining just a few, cherished friendships, mostly long distance, as best we could. We ended up with one each, but they were lifesavers to each of us at different times.

Quality, private time is a hard thing to come by when you have a loved one dependent on you, that is for sure. I never figured that one out, except I took to getting up at 2 am so I had a couple of solitary hours to myself before my wife’s next medicines, etc. Clearly not a viable option for all, but it worked for me and now I find I am actually a morning person (for the first time in my life) and I like it.

I wish there was a magic button or potion, perhaps a genie in a lamp to help in these situations. Moving can sometimes be an option, but in our case the market for homes in our area was not able to afford us that as an option.

Have you contacted your local Office on Aging? Are you or your husband a veteran? The VA has some good resources too.

Peace & Strength

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Good morning @virtuous Good to hear from you, but sorry to hear your challenges continue. I have been reading about what I consider incredible heat out in California. Dry heat, or damp heat, at 100+ I see it as just plain hot, but I don’t need to tell you that! Also please never apologize for errors in an email! Makes no difference to me as I know time is always of the essence!

Funny you should talk about dental problems. I have a few, which have been part of my ‘deferred maintenance program’ from being a caregiver for so long and then not being able to confront having to be a ‘patient’ myself right now! My last dentist was incredibly expensive and not willing to accept payments over time, so I shopped around and found one that has a lower overall price for the work I need and is willing to take 1/2 down and the rest in payments. I have my first appointment with her next week and am dreading it already. I wish you well with your dental issues and really, truly hope you can get that abscess taken care of. I know they can be incredibly painful and tough to corral.

In my case, recreation also took a backseat in my life. We never begrudged our kids their time off as we saw our medical issue/caregiving demands as our own and were happy to just hear about the adventures they had without us. I quit the newspaper to save some money and took our neighbor’s paper each afternoon when they were done with it. Saved some money and the only drawback was for about 10 years I always ended up working on crossword puzzled that already had been partially completed! Yes, I still have a large nut to payoff on our medical bills. It is rotten for sure! I’ve adjusted to cheap coffee (can’t start my day out without a cup or two), cheap beer (I miss my old favorite Rolling Rock), and luckily I love nothing better than a peanut butter and jelly sandwich with a slice of Swiss cheese. I hope you don’t think that too odd! When I was a kid my favorite sandwich was peanut butter, jelly, braunschweiger, Swiss cheese, sweet pickles, and mustard! YUM! That was some good eats, but my cholesterol won’t tolerate braunschweiger any longer! Grossed out my wife’s 100% Italian family though!

I do miss my wife all the time and still struggle with this new life style. Someone told me the other day ‘now that it has been so long you must be OK now, right?’ I simply smiled at them and said “when she’s been gone 41 years like we were married, you can come ask that again.” They responded with an epitaph and I just said “let us each grieve in our own way”.

I, like you, cannot imagine what those folks are going through in Houston! Talk about feeling overwhelmed — having that kind of loss must be so very difficult and clean up a true nightmare. I have had a flooded basement a couple times in my life and cleaning that small mess up was challenging. I cannot imagine it with the kind of water and sludge they are having, not to mention the chemical stews from all the chemical plants in that city. Yikes!

I will try and send our weather your way — we are at 51 here this morning and forecast for a high of 61. A few of the leaves are beginning to turn color, and Mother Nature is telling me autumn is on the way. I went out to a local lake last evening to do a little communing with nature and was treated to a nice sunset. I hope you find some momentary peace in the photos here!

Take good care and hopefully these pictures will give you what I call ‘a minute vacation’!

Continued strength, courage, and peace!

LaborDaySunset

LaborDayLeaves

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@IndianaScott

Hello @virtuous69 Nice to e-meet you here even under your difficult conditions. I am Scott and while my wife battled brain cancer for 14+ years I was her primary caregiver. Lost my job for the last five of it and was just caregiving.

It is good to know you are both at least of age to be covered under Medicare! My wife and I were too young for it and that added a whole different level of stress. Caregiving and chronic conditions are taxing for anyone, especially when it involves our loved ones. I am not a medical care professional at all, so I only speak from my personal experiences.

My wife and I had to give up all of our help during her illness as well. It was always a house of cards, where the smallest change or expense would add stress and cause the house to shudder, shake, fall apart a bit, but thankfully we were able to keep going. Maintenance went on full-time delay 🙂 Not only for our house, but also for me. Do you know if your area has any nonprofits that offer hearing aid assistance? That might help. I know from my own hearing loss it can be quite exasperating and frustrating for both sides of a conversation and cause even more feelings of isolation.

I had to totem everything we did based on my wife’s needs. For a variety of reasons most of our friends and family departed from our lives and our community is one of mostly second homes so the local support was nonexistent. We worked hard on maintaining just a few, cherished friendships, mostly long distance, as best we could. We ended up with one each, but they were lifesavers to each of us at different times.

Quality, private time is a hard thing to come by when you have a loved one dependent on you, that is for sure. I never figured that one out, except I took to getting up at 2 am so I had a couple of solitary hours to myself before my wife’s next medicines, etc. Clearly not a viable option for all, but it worked for me and now I find I am actually a morning person (for the first time in my life) and I like it.

I wish there was a magic button or potion, perhaps a genie in a lamp to help in these situations. Moving can sometimes be an option, but in our case the market for homes in our area was not able to afford us that as an option.

Have you contacted your local Office on Aging? Are you or your husband a veteran? The VA has some good resources too.

Peace & Strength

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@indiannascott. Vituous69 here. Somehow another account got created as just virtuous. That really made another poster extremely mad becauseI’m just now getting the mac Mai post s again after I did all the things that Justin McClelland had taught me how to do so I got Biggie Biggie trouble and someone is really upset with me for my complaints and tells me I better stay in the Mac RI group to see what they really go through .
Thank you for your patience with me I enjoy your posts they give me a little humor and there’s a little fun things that I would like to share with you so it means a lot to hear from you now and then again.
okay God bless and give you a beautiful day today I’m going to write to you again when I get home.Dori

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@windwalker

@virtuous Hi Dori, I agree with what Kanaaz said with regards to the ‘big picture’. It is easy to get overwhelmed when things have gotten away from you. I break my tasks down into small ones. I find that if I compartmentalize each thing or area, I do better. For example, when deciding what to tackle in your home: you could say to yourself, ‘Just for today, all I have to do is Scrub the toilet. That’s it. Next say, “all I have to do is , scrub the bathroom sink. Then, the next day give yourself a small task. Then, everyday give yourself a small task. Delegate to your husband too. You said his back hurts, let him fold laundry on the sofa. A little bit here and a little bit there gets the job done. One feels better when they are busy. That is my take anyway. Hugs, Terri

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@ catgig. Enjoyed the humor in your post. First of all I need to tell you that I accidentally created this secondary account of virtuous. My main account is virtuous69 and my name is Dori.
My husband is 79 a really good man but he’s Swedish and like his father and older generation, was just as stubborn wouldn’t lift a finger around the house. The women did the housework and the cooking and the men did the yard. Well my husband has no visual concept of of what makes a beautiful yard except to plant straight bushes , with no sense of dynamic or coordination, you know that type of thing. So he will work outside once in a while and hedge the bushes on his day off but we’ve had an agreement of what kind of household chores we would take and that he’s to give me half an hour a day. That hardly ever happens he’s lost most of his hearing so that causes a lot of arguments and sometimes I just wish I could bang him over the head with it iron skillet. But he’s a wonderful Christian man, he loves me deeply and tells me everyday how much he loves me. He’s actually working at his age while he’s hurting also, to keep me alive.We,re in a high cost of living area (Silicon Valley) in a nice senior mobile home park, but the space and mortgage payments outstrip our income.Afterrhe lost his job hours and I had to go on disability. So it’s really kind of funny because he’s such a Charming Man and a good man but
won’t lift a finger to help me when he sees how much pain I’m in.I want to scream. And posting this type of thing really seems to make some of your co -posters very angry like I’m a some sort of them prima Donna.ps We have been married 47 years. I am 69 with health issues, the total spinal package, Fibromygia and the kitchen sink.I just want to have a little fun…won’t bore you with details of why we don’t walk or swim, and how we’ve become arm chair potatoes. That is why I started a post for depression. Having had a little spending money before my husband,s company fired it’s famous Fortune 500 company CEO and took away all our benefits, we managed and a wonderful group of church friends. That is why I enjoy hearing from some of you. My best friend and confident passes away. My normally sane and wonderful husband can get very nervous when it’s time to pay the rent. He literally becomes Henny Penny and runs around in circles. We’ve had so much marrital counseling that he would never keep up with. My being in pain, in bed 1/2 the day certainly doesn’t help matters at all with his depression and my guilt.. You all have such horrific issues you face daily that I can’t begin to walk a mile in your shoes. I beileve God allows each of us different trials. But depression is very real. Crazy, but having a little money to live and some to share is a great blessing.Thank you folks for being “real” and be willing to share your humor and vulnerabilities.

Blessings, Dori

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Correction: My post should have been directed to@catgic.

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@virtuous Dori – Fortunately, the “Helper Gremlins” of MayoConnect delivered your typo’ed @ catgig to @catgic, me. Thank you for the “Blessings.” Clearly, you all have had, and are having a tough medical and financial row to hoe. It appears that you have the yin and yang of your marital relationship with your husband worked out to your mutual satisfaction…this is good.

FYI: In both my professional Warfighting Navy life and Techno-Geek life, I have lived and worked in Silicon Valley…Moffett-Sunnyvale, Mountain View, and Palo Alto, and the contiguous area, thereto. So my bride of 55 Blissful Emerald “Double Nickels” years and I are quite familiar with the Silicon Valley & San Francisco Peninsula area, culture, and cost of living. We also had occasion to have resided for a couple years, 90-miles down the PCH in Monterey-Carmel.

In the highest traditions of 1960’s Hippy Dippy Culture let me encourage you to Keep On Keeping’ On facing your challenges. We shall put you all in our prayers.

As I write this note to you, Big Bad & Über Blustery CAT 5+ Hurricane Irma has the State of Florida in her cross-hairs. Irma is still many days away from wherever she may be headed, but it has not stopped CNN, FoxNEWS, the local media, the public leadership from stirring the up the Florida citizenry into an anticipatory frenzy of fear. Back in the simpler, innocent “Good Old Small Government” times, folks were told buy some candles, to fill their bath tubs up to the top with water, and hunker down to ride out The Big Blow. For the record, my wife and I are not one of those “Citizen Chickens Running Around With Our Heads Cut Off.” We have been there and done that before.

Let me share a personal hurricane-related anecdote. Back in September 1960, a month after I first met my Teen Queen Goddess Wife, I was a 19-years old teenaged @catgic sailor who was baptized into Florida Hurricane living with a heavy-weather Hurricane “Donna” drenching down on Boca Chica Key in the Florida Keys. Donna blew through the Florida Key, and in the process, blew out the main water line supplying the Florida Keys with water from up Miami way. Without plentiful running fresh water available, I had to wash my person and sweat-soaked Navy Dungarees in the ocean surf of the Florida Straits off Key West using special “Navy Issue Salt Water Soap.” This salt-water washing ritually completed my King Neptune Baptism to make me a lifelong favored Shellback’ed acolyte of King Neptune and the Weather Gods from then on. Bottom-Line…@catgic Knowz Hurricanes (Earth Quakes & Other Random Acts Of God & Man), and never has, and does not, live in fear of any of them.

Anyhoo, I remain the “Honey Do Love Slave For Life” to my “Honey, When You Have Time…Can You…???” Goddess Wife, and all is right in the world.

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@catgic

@virtuous Dori – Fortunately, the “Helper Gremlins” of MayoConnect delivered your typo’ed @ catgig to @catgic, me. Thank you for the “Blessings.” Clearly, you all have had, and are having a tough medical and financial row to hoe. It appears that you have the yin and yang of your marital relationship with your husband worked out to your mutual satisfaction…this is good.

FYI: In both my professional Warfighting Navy life and Techno-Geek life, I have lived and worked in Silicon Valley…Moffett-Sunnyvale, Mountain View, and Palo Alto, and the contiguous area, thereto. So my bride of 55 Blissful Emerald “Double Nickels” years and I are quite familiar with the Silicon Valley & San Francisco Peninsula area, culture, and cost of living. We also had occasion to have resided for a couple years, 90-miles down the PCH in Monterey-Carmel.

In the highest traditions of 1960’s Hippy Dippy Culture let me encourage you to Keep On Keeping’ On facing your challenges. We shall put you all in our prayers.

As I write this note to you, Big Bad & Über Blustery CAT 5+ Hurricane Irma has the State of Florida in her cross-hairs. Irma is still many days away from wherever she may be headed, but it has not stopped CNN, FoxNEWS, the local media, the public leadership from stirring the up the Florida citizenry into an anticipatory frenzy of fear. Back in the simpler, innocent “Good Old Small Government” times, folks were told buy some candles, to fill their bath tubs up to the top with water, and hunker down to ride out The Big Blow. For the record, my wife and I are not one of those “Citizen Chickens Running Around With Our Heads Cut Off.” We have been there and done that before.

Let me share a personal hurricane-related anecdote. Back in September 1960, a month after I first met my Teen Queen Goddess Wife, I was a 19-years old teenaged @catgic sailor who was baptized into Florida Hurricane living with a heavy-weather Hurricane “Donna” drenching down on Boca Chica Key in the Florida Keys. Donna blew through the Florida Key, and in the process, blew out the main water line supplying the Florida Keys with water from up Miami way. Without plentiful running fresh water available, I had to wash my person and sweat-soaked Navy Dungarees in the ocean surf of the Florida Straits off Key West using special “Navy Issue Salt Water Soap.” This salt-water washing ritually completed my King Neptune Baptism to make me a lifelong favored Shellback’ed acolyte of King Neptune and the Weather Gods from then on. Bottom-Line…@catgic Knowz Hurricanes (Earth Quakes & Other Random Acts Of God & Man), and never has, and does not, live in fear of any of them.

Anyhoo, I remain the “Honey Do Love Slave For Life” to my “Honey, When You Have Time…Can You…???” Goddess Wife, and all is right in the world.

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Hi @catgic I would only say this about Hurricane Irma. Our son, daughter-in-law and two grandsons live in the path. The island of Barbuda was reported to have been ‘90% destroyed’, Houston is still reeling from their destruction, and since our son is responsible for several hundred employees he has been very thankful for the increased awareness and advance directives from the government. They are not whipping everyone into a frenzy they are providing much needed and hopefully heeded warnings. In ‘the old days’ we did not have the tracking and science to back up the storm awareness we do now. Preparedness is an important aspect to governing and has been going on for a long, long time. Many lives undoubtedly were saved due to preparedness with Harvey I am sure.

I am glad you have such a good experience with Donna, but many do not have such luck with storms, etc.

Just my two cents, plain.

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@virtuous Dori – Fortunately, the “Helper Gremlins” of MayoConnect delivered your typo’ed @ catgig to @catgic, me. Thank you for the “Blessings.” Clearly, you all have had, and are having a tough medical and financial row to hoe. It appears that you have the yin and yang of your marital relationship with your husband worked out to your mutual satisfaction…this is good.

FYI: In both my professional Warfighting Navy life and Techno-Geek life, I have lived and worked in Silicon Valley…Moffett-Sunnyvale, Mountain View, and Palo Alto, and the contiguous area, thereto. So my bride of 55 Blissful Emerald “Double Nickels” years and I are quite familiar with the Silicon Valley & San Francisco Peninsula area, culture, and cost of living. We also had occasion to have resided for a couple years, 90-miles down the PCH in Monterey-Carmel.

In the highest traditions of 1960’s Hippy Dippy Culture let me encourage you to Keep On Keeping’ On facing your challenges. We shall put you all in our prayers.

As I write this note to you, Big Bad & Über Blustery CAT 5+ Hurricane Irma has the State of Florida in her cross-hairs. Irma is still many days away from wherever she may be headed, but it has not stopped CNN, FoxNEWS, the local media, the public leadership from stirring the up the Florida citizenry into an anticipatory frenzy of fear. Back in the simpler, innocent “Good Old Small Government” times, folks were told buy some candles, to fill their bath tubs up to the top with water, and hunker down to ride out The Big Blow. For the record, my wife and I are not one of those “Citizen Chickens Running Around With Our Heads Cut Off.” We have been there and done that before.

Let me share a personal hurricane-related anecdote. Back in September 1960, a month after I first met my Teen Queen Goddess Wife, I was a 19-years old teenaged @catgic sailor who was baptized into Florida Hurricane living with a heavy-weather Hurricane “Donna” drenching down on Boca Chica Key in the Florida Keys. Donna blew through the Florida Key, and in the process, blew out the main water line supplying the Florida Keys with water from up Miami way. Without plentiful running fresh water available, I had to wash my person and sweat-soaked Navy Dungarees in the ocean surf of the Florida Straits off Key West using special “Navy Issue Salt Water Soap.” This salt-water washing ritually completed my King Neptune Baptism to make me a lifelong favored Shellback’ed acolyte of King Neptune and the Weather Gods from then on. Bottom-Line…@catgic Knowz Hurricanes (Earth Quakes & Other Random Acts Of God & Man), and never has, and does not, live in fear of any of them.

Anyhoo, I remain the “Honey Do Love Slave For Life” to my “Honey, When You Have Time…Can You…???” Goddess Wife, and all is right in the world.

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Hi folks,
Let’s bring this conversation back to its original topic of supporting @virtuous.

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Hello, Virtuous69 here. Re: straightening out my two accts that really surprised me that @virtuous got created…….Did all on my smart phone. Going to my laptop now to look for Colleen Young,’s reply/advise to merge my two accts to Virtuous69. My smart phone sometimes flips around. BTW. Since I’ve started a depression discussion, for those of you who have difficult daily protocols like Mac/Mai, have amazing health issues, but do not suffer depression, I’ll.want to say Depression is very real and always seems to go hand in hand with Fibromygia. Have really appreciated your entire “connect”community.
bye for now…. Virtuous69.

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Hello, Virtuous69 here. Re: straightening out my two accts that really surprised me that @virtuous got created…….Did all on my smart phone. Going to my laptop now to look for Colleen Young,’s reply/advise to merge my two accts to Virtuous69. My smart phone sometimes flips around. BTW. Since I’ve started a depression discussion, for those of you who have difficult daily protocols like Mac/Mai, have amazing health issues, but do not suffer depression, I’ll.want to say Depression is very real and always seems to go hand in hand with Fibromygia. Have really appreciated your entire “connect”community.
bye for now…. Virtuous69.

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Hi Virtuous, I will work with you on this by private message.
Colleen

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@virtuous Dori – Fortunately, the “Helper Gremlins” of MayoConnect delivered your typo’ed @ catgig to @catgic, me. Thank you for the “Blessings.” Clearly, you all have had, and are having a tough medical and financial row to hoe. It appears that you have the yin and yang of your marital relationship with your husband worked out to your mutual satisfaction…this is good.

FYI: In both my professional Warfighting Navy life and Techno-Geek life, I have lived and worked in Silicon Valley…Moffett-Sunnyvale, Mountain View, and Palo Alto, and the contiguous area, thereto. So my bride of 55 Blissful Emerald “Double Nickels” years and I are quite familiar with the Silicon Valley & San Francisco Peninsula area, culture, and cost of living. We also had occasion to have resided for a couple years, 90-miles down the PCH in Monterey-Carmel.

In the highest traditions of 1960’s Hippy Dippy Culture let me encourage you to Keep On Keeping’ On facing your challenges. We shall put you all in our prayers.

As I write this note to you, Big Bad & Über Blustery CAT 5+ Hurricane Irma has the State of Florida in her cross-hairs. Irma is still many days away from wherever she may be headed, but it has not stopped CNN, FoxNEWS, the local media, the public leadership from stirring the up the Florida citizenry into an anticipatory frenzy of fear. Back in the simpler, innocent “Good Old Small Government” times, folks were told buy some candles, to fill their bath tubs up to the top with water, and hunker down to ride out The Big Blow. For the record, my wife and I are not one of those “Citizen Chickens Running Around With Our Heads Cut Off.” We have been there and done that before.

Let me share a personal hurricane-related anecdote. Back in September 1960, a month after I first met my Teen Queen Goddess Wife, I was a 19-years old teenaged @catgic sailor who was baptized into Florida Hurricane living with a heavy-weather Hurricane “Donna” drenching down on Boca Chica Key in the Florida Keys. Donna blew through the Florida Key, and in the process, blew out the main water line supplying the Florida Keys with water from up Miami way. Without plentiful running fresh water available, I had to wash my person and sweat-soaked Navy Dungarees in the ocean surf of the Florida Straits off Key West using special “Navy Issue Salt Water Soap.” This salt-water washing ritually completed my King Neptune Baptism to make me a lifelong favored Shellback’ed acolyte of King Neptune and the Weather Gods from then on. Bottom-Line…@catgic Knowz Hurricanes (Earth Quakes & Other Random Acts Of God & Man), and never has, and does not, live in fear of any of them.

Anyhoo, I remain the “Honey Do Love Slave For Life” to my “Honey, When You Have Time…Can You…???” Goddess Wife, and all is right in the world.

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@IndianaScott 10:15pm. Scott have you heard from your kids down in the Florida area? Talking to a phone tech today said Indiana wild fires were causing bad air. Post when you can.
Will be praying Dori Virtuous69

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