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Chronic Pain, alternative Treatment

Posted by CiPaul @cipaul, Jul 11, 2017

I have had chronic pain for 17 years. I know what I'm going to say will be met with doubt, but please try what I say, even though it is not completely backed up by sceince. I was on heavy doses of OPIOIDS for 16 years with no help, relieveing my pain, then I started to take Kratom, for the last year I have been Pain Free!!! If you try it , you will have to try different strains, to find out what works best for you

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Texas Freedom | @oregongirl | Sep 7, 2018
In reply to @jfsherley "Ok thanks Gail I wasn’t planning on ordering the kratom but since it was something I’d..." + (show)
@jfsherley

Ok thanks Gail I wasn’t planning on ordering the kratom but since it was something I’d never heard of I was curious about it , that is good that we can be tested by our dna what kind of Dr does that ? I know by experience that I can’t take some of those opioids they either make me sick or make me feel weird. Chiropractor doesn’t help much and the shots didn’t help , I do take antidepressants, I think it helps me in some way , my back needs rods but at my age I don’t want to do it , I wear a brace that helps a lot and stretch and tramadol gabapentin muscle relaxants so If I don’t overdo it I can live with this . Thanks for the recommendations

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Kratom is NOT an opiod outright. If it was the Govt would class it. They tried and the lie got them nowhere. I believe if you took over what you should it will pick up a small AMT called orpiod.I have seen Mayo write that and it is not true. Neither is hemp oil. Hemp is legal. Read Genisis. All Herbs were for for our use as food and phrmacy. Of course there are limits. Common sense. And it will NOT gateway you to other drugs. Sorry drug companies. Marijuana which is not legal in Texas had reported skin cancer healings. 100 yes from now if we are still here all these things will be used istead of counter drugs. One of my drugs is just under 200.00 a month. It's tiny and should be outlawed

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Texas Freedom | @oregongirl | Sep 7, 2018
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@gailb

@jfsherley

I strongly recommend that you not take any other drug (OTC or prescription) or supplement with your current medications unless you discuss it with your pharmacist and get their OK first. That includes CBD, THC, as well as Kratom. Since Kratom is thought to be opioid like in its addiction properties, I won't try it myself until it has been studied more and we are sure of its safety. I recommend that you not take it at this point either.

I know the information about Marijuana was all bad at first, but over the years it became widely used by so many people that the fear tactics were disproved. I know that Kratom is compounded in other countries so we don't know what else is in the dose or what level of dose you are taking. I think there is no "magic" pill that will relieve all our pain. A combination of exercise if possible, manipulation, massage, heat, ice, topical salves, meditation, acupuncture, etc. along with pain and antidepressant medications are the best ways to relieve pain. Now,due to medical advances we can be DNA tested to find the best medicine for our gene type and metabolism. This is truly remarkable to me, and I will be requesting this test at my next doctor's appointment this month.

Your willingness to try new things is commendable, just proceed cautiously please. Hoping for effective, safe pain relief for you.

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Gail I agree. I just wrote a long report on Kratom and Hemp. My doctor knows I use these items. He also knowd as soon as the Senate in Texas opens their eyes maijuana will be approved. I love our governir. But I think a lot of Republicans will vote Democrat to get the conservative off their butts. These prescriptions are deadly. In the 30 and 40 people did not the junk they are pushing into our bodies. Tell your doctor what you are going to try. It was my primary Dr in Oregon who approved my medical Marijuana.

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Texas Freedom | @oregongirl | Sep 7, 2018
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@mrhappy

No natural or herbal substances should ever be taken in conjunction with prescription medication unless okay’d by your doctor.

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I agree. They will approve it or ask you to have your primary approve it. Most people opposed to these herbs are people who were fed all the lies. Trying to overcome the miss information is difficult. If it we're dangerous do you really think all the doctors in Oregon would not be shouting from rooftips to stop the sales? But they are not. And it's in my records. Only bad thing is it not covered by insurance yet. Ins companies won't step on their pharmacy friends toes tell your dovtor

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GailBL, Alumni Mentor | @gailb | Sep 7, 2018
In reply to @oregongirl "Gail I agree. I just wrote a long report on Kratom and Hemp. My doctor knows..." + (show)
@oregongirl

Gail I agree. I just wrote a long report on Kratom and Hemp. My doctor knows I use these items. He also knowd as soon as the Senate in Texas opens their eyes maijuana will be approved. I love our governir. But I think a lot of Republicans will vote Democrat to get the conservative off their butts. These prescriptions are deadly. In the 30 and 40 people did not the junk they are pushing into our bodies. Tell your doctor what you are going to try. It was my primary Dr in Oregon who approved my medical Marijuana.

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@oregongirl

I use medical Marijuana, but I'm skeptical about Kratom since Ives read such different information about it. I'm happy to wait until they learn more about it. But, my pain level is down at this time, so I can afford to wait. Thanks Oregon Girl.

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Texas Freedom | @oregongirl | Sep 8, 2018

Oh how I miss Oregon. Clinics on every corner and doctors who approve of its use.

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GailBL, Alumni Mentor | @gailb | Sep 9, 2018

I just read an article on NPR about a chronic pain researcher who is experimenting with an entirely new approach to treating chronic pain. She has chronic pain herself and is also telling doctors they need to listen to their pain patients to better understand the real deep pains they experience. I have copied her article link here:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/09/05/636860122/inspired-by-her-own-pain-a-researcher-explores-alternatives-to-opioid-treatments

Let's hope a solution is on the future horizon.

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lioness | @lioness | Sep 9, 2018
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@gailb

I just read an article on NPR about a chronic pain researcher who is experimenting with an entirely new approach to treating chronic pain. She has chronic pain herself and is also telling doctors they need to listen to their pain patients to better understand the real deep pains they experience. I have copied her article link here:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/09/05/636860122/inspired-by-her-own-pain-a-researcher-explores-alternatives-to-opioid-treatments

Let's hope a solution is on the future horizon.

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Gailb good article in meantime ginger-Tumeric tea

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Ginger, Volunteer Mentor | @gingerw | Sep 9, 2018
In reply to @gailb "I just read an article on NPR about a chronic pain researcher who is experimenting with..." + (show)
@gailb

I just read an article on NPR about a chronic pain researcher who is experimenting with an entirely new approach to treating chronic pain. She has chronic pain herself and is also telling doctors they need to listen to their pain patients to better understand the real deep pains they experience. I have copied her article link here:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/09/05/636860122/inspired-by-her-own-pain-a-researcher-explores-alternatives-to-opioid-treatments

Let's hope a solution is on the future horizon.

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@gailb I would happily volunteer to be part of a study on this! Great article. I use mindfulness, and my crafting to deal with the pain and discomfort, as there is so much medication I am not able to take due to bad kidneys.
Ginger

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Mamacita, Alumna Mentor | @mamacita | Oct 18, 2018
In reply to @mamacita "Hi, @oregongirl and @lioness. I am sorry that you both are experiencing so much pain. I..." + (show)
@mamacita

Hi, @oregongirl and @lioness. I am sorry that you both are experiencing so much pain.
I totally get it. This year it almost seems like the more medicine I take, the worse pain I experience. I just spent two days with my young friend at the UAB Hospital Medical Center for a gazillion doctor's appointments.

I found myself taking much less medicine for my Fibromyalgia, Spinal Stenosis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Arthritis, Plantars Fasciitis, Carpal Tunnel, and Muscle Spasms. And more supplements, such as Magnesium and Turmeric. I did not wear my brace, neither did I use my cane. Going from appointment to appointment, I had to pack really light. In order to accommodate for Water, Phone, and other necessary items one would need throughout the day.

Except for not having the option of lying down during the middle of the day, I did better using less meds and more supplements. The walking helped strengthen my back, I believe. Plus the endorphins, helped my mood.
This may not be for everyone, but for me personally, my doctors give me the leeway to take a minimum dosage and a maximum dosage. I freely take advantage of this. Plus, I am going to enforce much stricter rules about exercise. I have known all along that it is helpful in reducing pain levels, But isn't it so hard at times to force ourselves to exercise when pain is intolerable? Such is life, they say.

"Talk" to you dear people later!

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Hi there, @caityduck ,I appreciate your "liking" what I posted on Connect. Since that posting, I have had foot surgery, which as you can imagine, has taken almost a month to heal from. I still have to wear a boot and not stand, walk, or get my foot wet.

So we haven't made it to the gym, yet. But the hubby has started back walking around the neighborhood. I hope to join him soon!

I hope you are doing well, and have found some answers. We all must be good consumers in order to take good care of ourselves. We can help each other here by sharing our experiences.

I hope to hear back from you sometime! Btw, I love your name on here !

MamacitaJane

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lioness | @lioness | Oct 18, 2018
In reply to @mamacita "Hi, @oregongirl and @lioness. I am sorry that you both are experiencing so much pain. I..." + (show)
@mamacita

Hi, @oregongirl and @lioness. I am sorry that you both are experiencing so much pain.
I totally get it. This year it almost seems like the more medicine I take, the worse pain I experience. I just spent two days with my young friend at the UAB Hospital Medical Center for a gazillion doctor's appointments.

I found myself taking much less medicine for my Fibromyalgia, Spinal Stenosis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Arthritis, Plantars Fasciitis, Carpal Tunnel, and Muscle Spasms. And more supplements, such as Magnesium and Turmeric. I did not wear my brace, neither did I use my cane. Going from appointment to appointment, I had to pack really light. In order to accommodate for Water, Phone, and other necessary items one would need throughout the day.

Except for not having the option of lying down during the middle of the day, I did better using less meds and more supplements. The walking helped strengthen my back, I believe. Plus the endorphins, helped my mood.
This may not be for everyone, but for me personally, my doctors give me the leeway to take a minimum dosage and a maximum dosage. I freely take advantage of this. Plus, I am going to enforce much stricter rules about exercise. I have known all along that it is helpful in reducing pain levels, But isn't it so hard at times to force ourselves to exercise when pain is intolerable? Such is life, they say.

"Talk" to you dear people later!

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@mamacita. The exercise I do is chair exercises and water aerobics its easier on our joints the chair exercises are from Betty Swietke we do warm ups then more vigorous ,yoir sweating time your done.Its a DVD if interested

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