Chronic Pain, alternative Treatment

Posted by CiPaul @cipaul, Jul 11, 2017

I have had chronic pain for 17 years. I know what I'm going to say will be met with doubt, but please try what I say, even though it is not completely backed up by sceince. I was on heavy doses of OPIOIDS for 16 years with no help, relieveing my pain, then I started to take Kratom, for the last year I have been Pain Free!!! If you try it , you will have to try different strains, to find out what works best for you

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@allisonsnow Hello there. You are not alone in the mood arena. Non-stop pain is something that can bring on the not-so-happy face. I have ceased posting as often because of my dour mood. Understand about the grand kids too. I have tried to remain upbeat too. When the guilty cause as much harm as they have and do...How the heck do these people get drugs and only want them to get high. Excuse me as well. Where to go from here?

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Allison, I don't know where they get the drugs. I just want Marijuana. I prefer not to have the hard drugs. I truly believe that doctors are getting kick backs on the drugs they order. They are afraid to loose this extra money.

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I know when we have to jump thru so many hoops to get anything from marijuana to our prescribed opiods how do they get it with a text to the neighborhood dealer. I personally have had only bad results trying a form of marijuana but on minimal opiods I can maintain. But when a situation arises I need more pain control I do not appreciate being treated like a criminal because I temporarily need a higher dose. My Dr. knows my history and should prescribe with more compassion. I have never gotten this "high" people talk about what I want to be able to do is move....play...walk ...dress...garden...have sex...without debilitating pain. I want to smile because I am happy not as a cover to make others feel better. I want to once again shout from the roof tops..."I am blessed" God has given me comfort and joy with this extended life I have received...but pain can block that from our minds...I do not want....to be drugged to oblivion...to lose control of my thoughts and actions ...I want quality and control and laughter and friends. I could go on for ever but the most irritating thing right now?? I created myself…."I am fine" I say and they so want to believe that they ask no other questions. I go for my 3 month scans this week so I am sure that has made me more introspective than usual. But I question who I will even tell if the results are more negative than I would want. Every time the scans have shown growth since we halted chemo in Jan. ...I had growth while doing chemo and sideeffects were getting more severe.What I am going to ask him is "if the growth was enough to warrant chemo and it has done nothing but grow since then...why is current philosophy watch and wait? He has as much said he doesn't know what to try next. Sorry got away from pain topic !!! husband will be home soon and he gets tired of seeing me online

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Hello cpaul:. I'm Victorios 69. Read your post re:. Kratom. What exactly is that? How did you discover it? Does it work topically or like an opiod
Taken by mouth, block the pain signals to the brain?

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@kanaazpereira, thank you for the research and the information. Personally I do not intend to try kratom except as a last resort. But with fewer and fewer doctors prescribing pain relievers due to "fear of addiction", it may become necessary. I have found that extreme pain episodes can make me think strange thoughts like, "regardless of the legality, who can I call to get relief?" I believe that more and more people who are denied prescribed and supervised pain relievers will eventually seek relief wherever they can get it. I also believe that the use of unsupervised pain relievers is a huge factor in death by overdose. But that's just my opinion. @cognac

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Isn't it nice to have to have a place to come and just be ourselves? To just say all the things that no one else wants to hear, or pretend we're "fine" when we feel like screaming? I have a wicked disease on top of AA called subarachnoiditis (affects everything from the top of my head down), which I can find NOTHING to read about it, sorta like AA was 45 years ago, which causes all sorts of bizarre effects that I can't even describe oy vey, what madness we live with! You with whatever you're being given chemo for that even your doctor doesn't understand, me with a handful of incurable diseases that have NEVER been cared for by anyone in the medical profession(?). I think if it weren't for my Buddhist practice I'd of offed myself decades ago.But that and my insatiable interest in many, many things (plus love) saved me.

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@geezappeal1, if you don't mind, would you please tell me what is the AA to which you refer? Thank you. @cognac

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Adhesive Arachnoiditis. I'm in the other A.A. too.

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Nah...You don't need a 'Smiley Face' for me. Have you ever noticed how much time we women spend apologizing for our nasty
moods? Our cluttered houses (if they are cluttered!)? Ad nauseum-you get the idea. I often think if I didn't spend so much time apolgizing for things (no one else cares about), I'd make a pretty good cloistered nun, of any faith. Ever hear a man apologize because the sink was full of dishes?

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This morning I read an important article in the New York Times about some procedures that are being used for Chronic Pain now that opioids are being limited or eliminated for patients. This article contains warnings about one procedure, Depo Medro, that the manufacturer, Pfizer, requested the FDA to ban 5 years ago. The FDA never followed through, so it has remained on the market. It is being used increasingly now due to the opioid limits. You will want to read the article which also discusses use of epidural steroid shots. Here's the link :
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/31/health/opioids-spinal-injections.html

Have a good day everyone,
Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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Hi All!
I know it has been a while since I've shared.
Lots of stuff going on that I will discuss at another time.
I am posting this link to an article I received.
It is very interesting for those of us suffering from mental or physical pain.
This hit home because many years ago, when I was mentally going through a very bad time and my body pains were getting to me, my daughter brought over her 2 puppies.
Both puppies climbed up on me kissing me and cuddling me.
It was like they knew something was wrong.
Considering how dogs are used to help people with all sorts of issues, I believe they knew my pain.
Anyway, please take a look.....

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/consumer-health/in-depth/pet-therapy/art-20046342/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=housecall

Here's to a pain free (or controlled day)!
Ronnie (GRANDMAr)

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