I have BMS 3 years now. Has anyone had pain, and inflammation relief from GABA capsules, or liquid ? Vitiman B12 ?
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I have never had my mouth sores given a name but mouth sores. I went to both my dentist snd my pcp and had bloodwork drawn by pcp. Nothing showed up but my mouth was so painful for months. I finally tried sensitive toothpaste a couple of weeks ago and it really made a difference. My sores are healed at the moment. I know this is something very simple but maybe it will help someone get a little relief.
Please tell us what helped you. I have the same problem. My mouth burns, my tongue feels weird, and my palate feels numb.
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I had a feeling of irritation/inflammation/dryness, and certain weeks I had an unbearable burning sensation, as if my saliva was burning me. It turned out that I slowly developed a habit of pressing my tongue against my palate or front teeth, and after I tried relaxing my mouth and tongue, I felt tingling and realized that my mouth was numb, especially the tongue and palate. I also massaged the jaw muscles and stretched them by opening my mouth. The burning quickly went away (maybe a few hours to completely go away). As for the sensation of irritation and the tongue feeling weird, that is because of the numbness, and it takes a few weeks to go back to normal. Just don't forget to relax the tongue and mouth, until it gets natural again.
I may have had the same thing as you @willows, and I had no idea my palate was numb. I was feeling that my mouth was irritated/inflamed, and certain weeks I had an unbearable burning sensation and couldn't sleep or work. I went to the emergency at night once, I thought it was an infection, but no one was able to help. This lasted more than 6 months, I've seen almost 10 doctors and specialists, and some gave me a lot of Miconazole, Fluconazole, …, thinking it may be Candidiasis, even though my mouth looked normal.
Since no one could help me, I started doing a lot more research. I thought that it was my saliva burning my mouth because when I tried sugarless candies or chocolate, it got worse. I bought some PH paper tests to see if my saliva had an abnormal PH, but the PH was normal. On the Mayoclinic page about Burning Mouth Syndrome, I saw that one of the causes can be tongue thrusting. I almost ignored it, but then I thought maybe I'm doing it unconsciously, so I tried to relax my tongue and jaw, and that is when I realized that my tongue muscle was contracted! I started to feel tingling especially in the tip of my tongue, and the burning sensation stopped! Then I realized that my tongue and palate were numb, I had no idea before that.
I still had the irritation/inflamed feeling, but then I realized it's probably an illusion that the numbness tends to give us, or the poor blood circulation could have inflamed the areas too. So now it's been 2 weeks and the numbness is almost gone, and I'm completely healed and can live normally again.
The reason candies and chocolate, and acidic drinks were making the burning sensation worse, is because we use our tongue and mouth muscles even more to suck on the chocolate and candies. And acidic drinks tend to make our muscles contract, like lemon does.
Funny note: during my research I went on a gaming channel, a place where there was 20k random people, and I asked if anyone had a similar experience. Someone told me that he found out he was biting his cheeks during sleep. This is not the same as me, but when I read "Tongue thrusting" on Mayoclinic, I might have ignored it if it was not for that person's similar experience.
I think that the other causes of "secondary burning mouth syndrome" on Mayoclinic, like stress, anxiety, dry mouth, are just indirect causes. For example, stress or dry mouth tend to make us close our mouth and contract our muscles, but it could be that the real reason is the tongue and mouth muscles being contracted and preventing good blood circulation.
For everyone having BMS, try relaxing your tongue and muscles in your jaw. It worked for me.
I used to get some relief when I used certain mouth gels, but that was just because I was relaxing the mouth when using the gels, and it had nothing to do with the gels or medicines.
I hope it's the same for you, and simply relaxing the tongue/mouth will fix it. Also if it's something you do at night, try recording yourself in your sleep.
I have OPL and BMS syndrome is certainly part of that whole thing. Initially, I thought the burning tongue was yeast (thrush). I looked for a mouth wash specifically for yeast but no luck there. My mouth was so dry (exacerbated by meds?) the burn worst so I drank a lot of water and took Diflucan (rx) which is an oral yeast treatment – just one pill every so often. I think it helped some. When I had a lot of ulcers in my mouth I swished with hydrogen peroxide which made a HUGE difference in the rate at which the ulcers healed. If it was really bad, I drenched a piece of gauze with the hydrogen peroxide and kept it in my mouth (between my teeth and gums) intermittently throughout the day. No one told me to do this but it dramatically cuts the healing time. When really unbearable, I have used Kanka to numb it. I also moved away from mint toothpaste and went with non-floride version which has helped incredibly (get enough fluoride from drinking water). I am not a doctor but since there are no definitive answers out there I have done a lot of research and trial and error things. So helpful to hear your efforts to address this demon. Thank you.
Btw… Oral Lichen Planos ( the mother of BMS) can effect other parts of your body. If it is limited to your mouth consider yourself blessed… It can change your life in ways too great to enumerate here. 🙁 No help to be found as of yet here in the US, the UK and New Zealand seem to have the corner on the market at this time but I have not given up hope. I can't give up. I will keep studying and digging. I refuse to believe that someone out there has not discovered a way to address this successfully. Keep you posted….
Hello Nanette I am a sufferer of BMS and have been getting treatment at the Mayo, AZ. the doctors understands the syndrome, my pain has gone from extreme to moderate. There are many test to go through but this Dr. Yiannias is a miracle man. I have been trying several medicines, an nothing has cured it but it has taken the sting out of the mouth.
I have all the symptoms of BMS. Went to dermatologist and ENT and had all the test-blood work, mouth swab and even35 patches on my back to see if I am allergic to anything. I have had this BMS on and off for the past 2 years. It starts with my lips swelling up. It looks like I had a bad Botox job. Luckily that only lasted for 2 days but the tongue and roof of my mouth still feels like I scolded them and the lips remains sore. Is this the symptoms you had? Where is your doctor located?
Welcome, @njsouthern. You may also be interested in this related discussion:
– Burning Mouth Syndrome (BMS): Anyone found any relief? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/burning-mouth-syndrome-2/
From the conversations I read there seems to be very little that can be done for BMS. I also belong to a private group on Facebook where there are thousands of members that belong to it. I can tell you that there are many people out there who have this BMS for years and have had very little relief. The problem with the Mayo Clinic blog is the latest conversation is from 2021. What happen to these people ? Did they just give up 🤷♀️. Thanks
I’m on my 12th year. Got it under control with Xanax . Went many years with very little pain so decided to wean myself off. Got myself down to 1/4 mg. With no side effects and very little pain. Then stopped altogether for two weeks and it came back. Xanax was the only thing that worked . Back on it. For the duration. Being a controlled drug it’s hard to get doctors to prescribe. I tried everything, only Xanax worked. Miserable dam condition!
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Blue, wow, that is really interesting. Were you able to go back to 1/4 mg or did you have to titrate back up to get the pain under control?
Just started back on 1/4 (all doc would go for) and not helping much so far. I was on 1/2 when it was under control. I suspect I will have to get back on that first then wean down when I can . At my age docs don’t want to prescribe. Big mistake thinking I had it beat. Doc told me in 2011 it would last the duration. Taking some gaba when needed too. Thanks for your interest.
Good morning I am trying to figure out if I do have bms. My symptoms are nasty burning taste that goes all around my mouth and when I swallow it burns my throat. I hand fillings done and I have noticed I got this when I had them done. As this happen to anyone else please get in touch thankyou.
Welcome @wmichelle, I hate going to the dentist anyway and to have a nasty burning taste and burning when swallowing after having some fillings has to be just awful. I did find some information on the topic here:
"Can dental fillings cause burning mouth syndrome?
This study confirms the opinion that burning mouth is multicausal. Hypersensitive reaction to mercury was more frequent than expected, but replacement of amalgam fillings relieved burning mouth in only two of five such patients, and one of these two patients had hypersensitive reactions to both mercury and gold."
— Clinical study of patients with burning mouth – PubMed:
Have you discussed the symptoms with an ENT doctor or your dentist to see if they might have some suggestions?
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