Do other long haulers suffer with brain changes? Seen any improvement?

Posted by mindig @mindig, Oct 28, 2021

Hi there,
I am new to the site and have been recommended by my Dr to reach out. I had covid19 in November, I still struggle with fatigue, body aches, shortness of breath, racing heart and cognitive brain changes which have turned my world upside down. Does any one suffer with brain changes? and have you seen improvement over time?

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@lynnryan

Luckily through my job, i had short, then long term disability. They did have me apply for Social Security disability, but I was denied. They say everyone gets denied the first time. I have an attorney helping me appeal it. Also, when I was attending the Pain Rehab clinic at Mayo, the long term disability company called out of the blue and said they determined I’m not disabled anymore and quit paying me that day. My family did research on the company, Unum, and they are notorious for declining people with valid claims. There is a class action law suit against them, so now I have a different attorney helping me there. They make you feel like a deadbeat trying to work the system, when I would love nothing more than to feel better and be able to go back to work. This certainly is not a life anyone would pick.

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This was as my daughter's experience with Unum too, both after Covid in March 2020 and after a serious injury in May. They changed their minds and paid her when she promised to retain an attorney. She has now healed to the point that she is working again, though at a less stressful nursing job than her previous metro Trauma Center.
For what it's worth, she was a triage nurse in a busy emergency room, had been in emergency situations for 20 years, but the constant multitasking and pace were too much after long Covid's effects. She is doing very well in the more structured environment of the OR, even successfully managing an emergency there last week.
Sue

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Any treatments out there for long haul covid? I have good days and bad days. Really need help! Anxiety, shaking can barely do my job, flu like symptoms, weak legs brain fog and I overthink everything. I’m on 30mg Prozac for 1.5 months now that’s it. I’m going crazy.

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@rinadbq

I have a lot of cognitive issues. I had a 4 hr. evaluation with a Neuro-Physch Dr which pin pointed where my issues are--delayed word finding, memory, recall, sequencing. I am working with a speech therapist which really helps. I keep a notebook log...on one page I write down what I am doing, hour by hour, and on the facing page what kind of symptoms/issues I have through the day like memory, spelling, sleep problems, extreme lethargy, terrible headaches, getting lost while driving a familiar route, hot & cold flashes. staying on task, word finding, body/head pain, dizziness, balance, shortness of breath at rest and/or with exertion, fast heart rate & what that rate is, emotional swings-anger, fear, depression, isolation, feeling overwhelmed. I limit my thinking work (planning my day, balancing check book, making appointments) to 2 hours a day and my physical work (doing housework, walking, garden, cooking) to 2 hours a day. This has been a tremendous step in warding off days of incapacitating exhaustion where I 'crash' and am basically MIA in my own life. I too became ill in November. I am (was) a frontline working-ER Nurse and got sick at work. I lost my job and work comp withdrew their coverage.

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I have been suffering these symptoms for a year now. They tell me I just need to see a therapist. Basically it’s anxiety and depression. That I need to be seen by a psychiatrist to put me on the right depression meds. See a physical therapist and have then start weight training. This was at the clinic at university of Michigan. Last week was the second time to travel there. Very discouraged.

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Hello, l am new to this site. Fair warning this is a long post. I’m scared, frustrated, anxiety ridden & trying to hang on. I tested positive Nov 6th, 2020. I had done everything possible to avoid this disease. My husband is a 23 yr transplant survivor & didn’t want him to get sick. I worked in the title business, we saw people coming in to sell/buy property, a lot of people, it was an office of 15 people. I asked to work from home & was discouraged from that. “Too much of a risk for the company”. Out of the 15 of us all but 3 got covid. They still did not shut down the office, just adjusted the way they did business. I was sick, coughing, high fever, body pains worse than I had ever felt, headache, no smell, no taste or appetite. So weak I couldn’t do anything by myself, my husband always right by my side. Nov 12th was my worst day, 106 fever, blood oxygen 72. Called the hospital & “unless she is blue, we have no room.” So my husband watched & wanted me to go, I was not going to die on a gurney in the hall by myself!! I went to sleep & by morning the “me” that went to bed was not the “me” that woke up. I had NO memory, didn’t know who my husband was, didn’t know where I was, did know my name. After a difficult conversation I started to remember my husband the house the dogs. But I didn’t have the memory to use a toothbrush, I didn’t know how to put on makeup. I couldn’t tie my shoes. I also could barely walk with out falling down. I couldn’t carry on a conversation, I couldn’t get the correct words out or I just couldn’t focus. Needless to say I was scared. I saw my Dr & she said “hopefully things will right themselves”, 3 weeks went by without any progress. My work wanted me to return, couldn’t work from home. I tried for 2 days to go, I had to use my GPS to get to work & back home. I had no idea where anything was. Realized I shouldn’t be driving & took a leave of absence. I was referred to neurologist & went through every scan & test possible. On paper all tests came back normal. Saw a neuropsychologist and took a 4 hour test for cognitive skills. Test scores were not great, I cried through most of the test feeling like I was failing. I had 6 months of physical therapy to learn how to walk again, still have problems & still fall. Had the opportunity to continue PT, but just couldn’t afford to. By this time I had well over $30K in medical bills. I was put on short term disability, still no improvement. Neurologist stated that “ since all tests show normal I suggest you see a psychiatrist & get on with your life & quit wasting time!” I was then put on long term disability, Mutual of Omaha asked for updates etc, I gave them everything they asked for & they agreed with Drs that at the time I was still unable to work. Through my disability plan Mutual of Omaha contacted an attorney on my behalf for SS disability, I’m still that process of piles of paperwork. My check usually came on the 6th of the month, it was Dec 10th with no check. I called my rep, out of the blue he states “we have decided to deny anymore benefits for you. There is not enough medical documentation to continue.” He also states that “oh my bad, I should have contacted you before Thanksgiving! But I was going on vacation & didn’t get it done!” My husband had to take over the phone call, I was hysterical. When he asked the rep what documentation will be acceptable-they couldn’t actually say what they needed! So I have been referred to another neurologist-for more tests? That I am unable to pay for? I could have been working on getting “the medical documentation” almost a month ago! My husband & I had to sell our house & all of our belongings! We are not homeless just living different lifestyle.
So does anyone know what medical documentation an insurance company will accept for the inability to do math, spell, no longer have memory to do anything. I can’t follow a recipe, I can’t figure the check book. I will start something get sidetracked & forget what I was doing. I leave the water running in the sink & walk outside if it’s a nice day. I am unable to handle any stress or difficult situations, I completely come unglued & go into panic mode. As time goes on & going into my 2nd year I feel more of me is deteriorating. The joint pain has increased & I now need a brace to walk. Anxiety & depression are constant. Fatigue is still a killer, I’ve tried doing short walks or small tasks outdoors, but I am so tired for the next 2 days.
I welcome any thoughts or suggestions, please no negative comments.
Covid-19 destroys lives in so many ways. We all need to hang onto HOPE.
Thanks for reading & letting me share my story. Peace & Blessings to all.

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People are asking nearly every day if there is any guidance on dealing with the effects of long Covid. It's hard to believe, especially if you are suffering, that this phenomenon was only recognized about a year and a half ago. In terms of science, research and medicine, that is really the blink of an eye.

This article was in MedPage Today https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/96181. If you click on the blue links for fatigue, shortness of breath or cognitive symptoms within, you will find the discussions and guidance that is being issued by The American Academy of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation to fellow health care providers. When you get to the linked summary, there is a button at the bottom that opens the full PDF of the article.

I must say, there is a lot of heavy reading, but if you skim through you can find valuable information. If you are seeking your care from your primary practitioner, and they don't seem to have a lot of information, you could share the link or the articles with them. Remember, our health care workers are overwhelmed and running on empty, so may not have had the time to do as much reading/research as they would have in the past.

I hope this information is helpful to someone. I have been fortunate not to get Covid, but my daughter has been in "long Covid" since April 2020, and lived with us most of the past year, so I get what you are saying as we have watched her struggle and work hour by hour, day by day to regain all of her amazing capabilities.

You are all in my thoughts every day, and I will continue to share whatever information I find that seems helpful. Wishing you all healing and peace.
Sue

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@nancycook

Hello, l am new to this site. Fair warning this is a long post. I’m scared, frustrated, anxiety ridden & trying to hang on. I tested positive Nov 6th, 2020. I had done everything possible to avoid this disease. My husband is a 23 yr transplant survivor & didn’t want him to get sick. I worked in the title business, we saw people coming in to sell/buy property, a lot of people, it was an office of 15 people. I asked to work from home & was discouraged from that. “Too much of a risk for the company”. Out of the 15 of us all but 3 got covid. They still did not shut down the office, just adjusted the way they did business. I was sick, coughing, high fever, body pains worse than I had ever felt, headache, no smell, no taste or appetite. So weak I couldn’t do anything by myself, my husband always right by my side. Nov 12th was my worst day, 106 fever, blood oxygen 72. Called the hospital & “unless she is blue, we have no room.” So my husband watched & wanted me to go, I was not going to die on a gurney in the hall by myself!! I went to sleep & by morning the “me” that went to bed was not the “me” that woke up. I had NO memory, didn’t know who my husband was, didn’t know where I was, did know my name. After a difficult conversation I started to remember my husband the house the dogs. But I didn’t have the memory to use a toothbrush, I didn’t know how to put on makeup. I couldn’t tie my shoes. I also could barely walk with out falling down. I couldn’t carry on a conversation, I couldn’t get the correct words out or I just couldn’t focus. Needless to say I was scared. I saw my Dr & she said “hopefully things will right themselves”, 3 weeks went by without any progress. My work wanted me to return, couldn’t work from home. I tried for 2 days to go, I had to use my GPS to get to work & back home. I had no idea where anything was. Realized I shouldn’t be driving & took a leave of absence. I was referred to neurologist & went through every scan & test possible. On paper all tests came back normal. Saw a neuropsychologist and took a 4 hour test for cognitive skills. Test scores were not great, I cried through most of the test feeling like I was failing. I had 6 months of physical therapy to learn how to walk again, still have problems & still fall. Had the opportunity to continue PT, but just couldn’t afford to. By this time I had well over $30K in medical bills. I was put on short term disability, still no improvement. Neurologist stated that “ since all tests show normal I suggest you see a psychiatrist & get on with your life & quit wasting time!” I was then put on long term disability, Mutual of Omaha asked for updates etc, I gave them everything they asked for & they agreed with Drs that at the time I was still unable to work. Through my disability plan Mutual of Omaha contacted an attorney on my behalf for SS disability, I’m still that process of piles of paperwork. My check usually came on the 6th of the month, it was Dec 10th with no check. I called my rep, out of the blue he states “we have decided to deny anymore benefits for you. There is not enough medical documentation to continue.” He also states that “oh my bad, I should have contacted you before Thanksgiving! But I was going on vacation & didn’t get it done!” My husband had to take over the phone call, I was hysterical. When he asked the rep what documentation will be acceptable-they couldn’t actually say what they needed! So I have been referred to another neurologist-for more tests? That I am unable to pay for? I could have been working on getting “the medical documentation” almost a month ago! My husband & I had to sell our house & all of our belongings! We are not homeless just living different lifestyle.
So does anyone know what medical documentation an insurance company will accept for the inability to do math, spell, no longer have memory to do anything. I can’t follow a recipe, I can’t figure the check book. I will start something get sidetracked & forget what I was doing. I leave the water running in the sink & walk outside if it’s a nice day. I am unable to handle any stress or difficult situations, I completely come unglued & go into panic mode. As time goes on & going into my 2nd year I feel more of me is deteriorating. The joint pain has increased & I now need a brace to walk. Anxiety & depression are constant. Fatigue is still a killer, I’ve tried doing short walks or small tasks outdoors, but I am so tired for the next 2 days.
I welcome any thoughts or suggestions, please no negative comments.
Covid-19 destroys lives in so many ways. We all need to hang onto HOPE.
Thanks for reading & letting me share my story. Peace & Blessings to all.

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I fully understand where you are, as I’m in the same boat. Your story could be mine except some symptoms are different. I too am still waiting on SS disability. I had my first denial, and have an attorney appealing. Luckily they work on contingency if they win your case. I would make sure the Mutual of Omaha referred attorney is still working your case since the denied you. I was at a 3 wk pain rehabilitation when my companies long term disability company Unum called me and said they didn’t think I was disabled anymore, though they have medical records showing otherwise. From research my family did, many companies are notorious for denying valid claims. Mine has class action law suits against them. They try to wear people down to go away. I would look for a disability attorney right away. I’m not sure how long you have to file an appeal, but mine was 6 months. They also work on contingency. I just hired one myself. Just do a internet search. It’s horrible just being sick with long Covid, and then trying to survive when disability companies don’t do what they are supposed to do. I hope this helps. ❤️

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I got Covid in July 2021 and it's been a struggle with long haul issues since (both pulmonary and cognitive). The cognitive issues are so upsetting. I have been on STD since Oct because the stress of my job and the memory issues/stumbling over words/losing my train of thought in the middle of a sentence really impact me/my health to the point it impacted the ability to do my job. I used to be able to multi-task and solution tough problems with a snap but now, even just in mundane conversations where I am not doing anything else, I struggle to catch and remember the basic points.

At best, I will remain on STD through the end of January. I am not confident I will be ready to work after that but the whole idea of trying to tackle LTD is so daunting. On the flip side, I am worried that my issues will prevent me from doing my job if I return to work and result in me losing my job along with my LTD insurance.

I am grateful as I am working with the Mayo Clinic in FL to help with these Covid related issues but I won't be able to complete all of the testing and programs before my STD runs out at the end of Jan.

And of course, the stress of trying to determine the right course to take exasperates my issues too. Go figure lol

Has anyone here had any success with their LTD relating to long Covid?

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@lynnryan

I fully understand where you are, as I’m in the same boat. Your story could be mine except some symptoms are different. I too am still waiting on SS disability. I had my first denial, and have an attorney appealing. Luckily they work on contingency if they win your case. I would make sure the Mutual of Omaha referred attorney is still working your case since the denied you. I was at a 3 wk pain rehabilitation when my companies long term disability company Unum called me and said they didn’t think I was disabled anymore, though they have medical records showing otherwise. From research my family did, many companies are notorious for denying valid claims. Mine has class action law suits against them. They try to wear people down to go away. I would look for a disability attorney right away. I’m not sure how long you have to file an appeal, but mine was 6 months. They also work on contingency. I just hired one myself. Just do a internet search. It’s horrible just being sick with long Covid, and then trying to survive when disability companies don’t do what they are supposed to do. I hope this helps. ❤️

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Until Mayo Clinic’s article I didn’t realize what people were going through after Covid-19. I had a stroke in 2009 and it affected my cognitive function, finding words, remembering important things. I was a nurse and the fear of giving a patient the wrong medication just scared me to death. I had a knee replacement in December of 2020 , I was unconscious for two and a half days. I developed AFIB in surgery. In June I was still in AFIB so the Cardiologist did two ablations and then a month later I got a Watchman. My biggest problem was I was falling, even with my walker. When I went in for a TEE to check the Watchmen, I contracted Covid-19, I had all the vaccines. I got so bad mentally I requested my Family Doctor do an MRI of my brain. He usually calls me back fast. I didn’t hear from him until two weeks later and I was told my brain was shrinking and nothing could be done. I am 73 , that is not old. I had COVID-19 for two months. I did get an infusion but I feel it did not help me. It is sad when you feel like no knows anything about COVID-19. I have learned more from Mayo Clinic than anywhere. Thank you everyone for sharing about you having Covid-19. May God Bless You all.

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@nancycook

Hello, l am new to this site. Fair warning this is a long post. I’m scared, frustrated, anxiety ridden & trying to hang on. I tested positive Nov 6th, 2020. I had done everything possible to avoid this disease. My husband is a 23 yr transplant survivor & didn’t want him to get sick. I worked in the title business, we saw people coming in to sell/buy property, a lot of people, it was an office of 15 people. I asked to work from home & was discouraged from that. “Too much of a risk for the company”. Out of the 15 of us all but 3 got covid. They still did not shut down the office, just adjusted the way they did business. I was sick, coughing, high fever, body pains worse than I had ever felt, headache, no smell, no taste or appetite. So weak I couldn’t do anything by myself, my husband always right by my side. Nov 12th was my worst day, 106 fever, blood oxygen 72. Called the hospital & “unless she is blue, we have no room.” So my husband watched & wanted me to go, I was not going to die on a gurney in the hall by myself!! I went to sleep & by morning the “me” that went to bed was not the “me” that woke up. I had NO memory, didn’t know who my husband was, didn’t know where I was, did know my name. After a difficult conversation I started to remember my husband the house the dogs. But I didn’t have the memory to use a toothbrush, I didn’t know how to put on makeup. I couldn’t tie my shoes. I also could barely walk with out falling down. I couldn’t carry on a conversation, I couldn’t get the correct words out or I just couldn’t focus. Needless to say I was scared. I saw my Dr & she said “hopefully things will right themselves”, 3 weeks went by without any progress. My work wanted me to return, couldn’t work from home. I tried for 2 days to go, I had to use my GPS to get to work & back home. I had no idea where anything was. Realized I shouldn’t be driving & took a leave of absence. I was referred to neurologist & went through every scan & test possible. On paper all tests came back normal. Saw a neuropsychologist and took a 4 hour test for cognitive skills. Test scores were not great, I cried through most of the test feeling like I was failing. I had 6 months of physical therapy to learn how to walk again, still have problems & still fall. Had the opportunity to continue PT, but just couldn’t afford to. By this time I had well over $30K in medical bills. I was put on short term disability, still no improvement. Neurologist stated that “ since all tests show normal I suggest you see a psychiatrist & get on with your life & quit wasting time!” I was then put on long term disability, Mutual of Omaha asked for updates etc, I gave them everything they asked for & they agreed with Drs that at the time I was still unable to work. Through my disability plan Mutual of Omaha contacted an attorney on my behalf for SS disability, I’m still that process of piles of paperwork. My check usually came on the 6th of the month, it was Dec 10th with no check. I called my rep, out of the blue he states “we have decided to deny anymore benefits for you. There is not enough medical documentation to continue.” He also states that “oh my bad, I should have contacted you before Thanksgiving! But I was going on vacation & didn’t get it done!” My husband had to take over the phone call, I was hysterical. When he asked the rep what documentation will be acceptable-they couldn’t actually say what they needed! So I have been referred to another neurologist-for more tests? That I am unable to pay for? I could have been working on getting “the medical documentation” almost a month ago! My husband & I had to sell our house & all of our belongings! We are not homeless just living different lifestyle.
So does anyone know what medical documentation an insurance company will accept for the inability to do math, spell, no longer have memory to do anything. I can’t follow a recipe, I can’t figure the check book. I will start something get sidetracked & forget what I was doing. I leave the water running in the sink & walk outside if it’s a nice day. I am unable to handle any stress or difficult situations, I completely come unglued & go into panic mode. As time goes on & going into my 2nd year I feel more of me is deteriorating. The joint pain has increased & I now need a brace to walk. Anxiety & depression are constant. Fatigue is still a killer, I’ve tried doing short walks or small tasks outdoors, but I am so tired for the next 2 days.
I welcome any thoughts or suggestions, please no negative comments.
Covid-19 destroys lives in so many ways. We all need to hang onto HOPE.
Thanks for reading & letting me share my story. Peace & Blessings to all.

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Nancy, I'm just catching up with your post now. You're so right that COVID-19 destroys lives in many ways. Your story illustrates very clearly the health effects and beyond - loss of work, financial crisis, and the ripple effect of that.

I have no idea what documentation your insurance company would need. They should be obliged to outline that for you. With your health issues and cognitive complications, I wonder if you might be able to find someone who could advocate with you. Might it be possible to contact a social worker in your community? You may wish to use this search tool from FindHelp.org for find a social worker and other free or reduced-cost help. https://www.findhelp.org/

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@sueinmn

I believe there is litigation on the workers comp issue, especially for front-line medical workers who became ill before vaccines were available.
My daughter found herself in the same situation, but the fatigue has mostly lifted, and her words come more easily now, after 20 months. Her employer accommodated her with a 4 hour per day telehealth postiton, but even that was a big stretch some days. She has progressed and will be resuming OR duties, where the pace is more manageable the urban ER.
Sue

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Hi @sueinmn do you have more info on litigation with work comp? I am a front line worker who got COVID 04/2020 and still suffer many symptoms.

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