Biology question

Posted by wpshooter @wpshooter, Apr 18, 2017

Can anyone tell me if it is biologically possible for large amounts of acid to be excreted into the stomach by the stress caused by bad dreams during sleep ?

Has any research been done on this topic ? If so, can you point me to the research and its findings ?

Thanks.

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@wpshooter I’ve been mulling over your post and doing some research. It seems many doctors are dismissing your condition as GERD and treating it as such. Have they done any testing such as a CT scan with contrast? I had gastric bypass 10 years ago and suffer from GERD. One time I went to the ER with excruciating abdominal pain and nausea. They did a CT scan with contrast ( I kept turning, rolling so much I felt like a piece of mean being cooked on a rotissiere!) They found I had gallstones, confirmed GERD but no other issues. While I’m not a doctor, I don’t see how there is any difference in being awake or asleep would effect Acid reflux or Bile reflux, which you can read more about here: Bile Reflux http://mayocl.in/2pZRwdN
I would venture a guess that you may not notice reflux during the day from food or liquid in your stomach preventing the burning sensation.

As far as vivid dreams, I’ve been treated for them for about 15 years now. The link that @kanaazpereira gave for Sleep Health is very useful http://mayocl.in/2oVAlwA. I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist with sleep terrors and currently take Trazodone to ‘turn off’ the brain so I feel rested when I do sleep.

wpshooter, Have you seen a doctor for your sleep issues?

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@sandytoes14 Thanks Jen, lots of good ideas in your post. Teresa

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@sandytoes14

@wpshooter I’ve been mulling over your post and doing some research. It seems many doctors are dismissing your condition as GERD and treating it as such. Have they done any testing such as a CT scan with contrast? I had gastric bypass 10 years ago and suffer from GERD. One time I went to the ER with excruciating abdominal pain and nausea. They did a CT scan with contrast ( I kept turning, rolling so much I felt like a piece of mean being cooked on a rotissiere!) They found I had gallstones, confirmed GERD but no other issues. While I’m not a doctor, I don’t see how there is any difference in being awake or asleep would effect Acid reflux or Bile reflux, which you can read more about here: Bile Reflux http://mayocl.in/2pZRwdN
I would venture a guess that you may not notice reflux during the day from food or liquid in your stomach preventing the burning sensation.

As far as vivid dreams, I’ve been treated for them for about 15 years now. The link that @kanaazpereira gave for Sleep Health is very useful http://mayocl.in/2oVAlwA. I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist with sleep terrors and currently take Trazodone to ‘turn off’ the brain so I feel rested when I do sleep.

wpshooter, Have you seen a doctor for your sleep issues?

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Does this Trazodone stop the vivid dreams from occurring and are there any detrimental side effects to taking it ? Is it habit forming ?

It is my understanding that having dreams (but not vivid / stressful ones) are a beneficial and necessary part of sleeping.

P.S. – I have been taking Prilosec for a little over 2 weeks now and the stomach burning, dreams and waking up continues every night/sleep period just like before. Other doctors have tried this PPI (and most all of the other ones) before with basically no effect and some have actually seemed to make things worse.

Thanks.

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@wpshooter I know you are really heartened by all of the excellent support and suggestions you have received from Connect. I was wondering if you have tried a special diet. I am on a special diet for both Colitis and Interstitial Cystitis. This diet eliminates caffeine (coffee, tea and colas,) sugar, gluten, dairy, chocolate, artificial sweeteners, spicy foods, yeast, mushrooms, and acidic foods, (most fruits except for Fuji and Gala apples and blueberries.) I know it looks strict but I am having no problems staying on it. This is because it is really helping my problems as much as medication does. Another thing that helps me is Maalox. Your therapist may also want to use a therapy for phobias called exposure therapy. I was also thinking about a tape recording of soothing music while you sleep. I hope you soon find a solution to your problem because I know it has been difficult and painful for you. Stay strong.

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Hi @wpshooter,

Trazodone is an antidepressant, and is often prescribed in lower doses to ease insomnia and, as @sandytoes mentioned, because of it’s restful effect.
I take Trazodone at bedtime as well, and have not experienced any vivd dreams because of the drug. @blindeyepug @johnhans @ajgray @jay_baruch @lamerex4 @kyjeanne have written about Trazodone, and I wonder if they will join in to share their experiences while on this medication?

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@kanaazpereira

Hi @wpshooter,

Trazodone is an antidepressant, and is often prescribed in lower doses to ease insomnia and, as @sandytoes mentioned, because of it’s restful effect.
I take Trazodone at bedtime as well, and have not experienced any vivd dreams because of the drug. @blindeyepug @johnhans @ajgray @jay_baruch @lamerex4 @kyjeanne have written about Trazodone, and I wonder if they will join in to share their experiences while on this medication?

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I did have vivid dreams while on Trazadone but only when I was taking it in combination with Prednisone — to help ease my insomnia.

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@sandytoes14

@wpshooter I’ve been mulling over your post and doing some research. It seems many doctors are dismissing your condition as GERD and treating it as such. Have they done any testing such as a CT scan with contrast? I had gastric bypass 10 years ago and suffer from GERD. One time I went to the ER with excruciating abdominal pain and nausea. They did a CT scan with contrast ( I kept turning, rolling so much I felt like a piece of mean being cooked on a rotissiere!) They found I had gallstones, confirmed GERD but no other issues. While I’m not a doctor, I don’t see how there is any difference in being awake or asleep would effect Acid reflux or Bile reflux, which you can read more about here: Bile Reflux http://mayocl.in/2pZRwdN
I would venture a guess that you may not notice reflux during the day from food or liquid in your stomach preventing the burning sensation.

As far as vivid dreams, I’ve been treated for them for about 15 years now. The link that @kanaazpereira gave for Sleep Health is very useful http://mayocl.in/2oVAlwA. I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist with sleep terrors and currently take Trazodone to ‘turn off’ the brain so I feel rested when I do sleep.

wpshooter, Have you seen a doctor for your sleep issues?

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@wpshooter There is a difference in REM-rapid eye movement- sleep and having dreams that don’t produce a restful nights sleep. Here is a link about Trazodone.http://mayocl.in/2oE4EVp
There are also other medicines that have similar results. I noted this one because I am on it and you could use the information as a talking point with your doctor.
All the best to you.

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@hopeful33250

@sandytoes14 Thanks Jen, lots of good ideas in your post. Teresa

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@hopeful33250 Teresa, I’m glad you liked it. Connect is all about sharing and caring! Jen

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@kanaazpereira

Hi @wpshooter,

Trazodone is an antidepressant, and is often prescribed in lower doses to ease insomnia and, as @sandytoes mentioned, because of it’s restful effect.
I take Trazodone at bedtime as well, and have not experienced any vivd dreams because of the drug. @blindeyepug @johnhans @ajgray @jay_baruch @lamerex4 @kyjeanne have written about Trazodone, and I wonder if they will join in to share their experiences while on this medication?

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Are you saying that the Trazodone did not cause you to start having vivid dreams or are you saying that it stop you from having vivid dreams that you were having before taking it ? I am already having stressful dreams and I want to know if Trazodone will get rid of them. Thanks.

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@kanaazpereira

Hi @wpshooter,

Trazodone is an antidepressant, and is often prescribed in lower doses to ease insomnia and, as @sandytoes mentioned, because of it’s restful effect.
I take Trazodone at bedtime as well, and have not experienced any vivd dreams because of the drug. @blindeyepug @johnhans @ajgray @jay_baruch @lamerex4 @kyjeanne have written about Trazodone, and I wonder if they will join in to share their experiences while on this medication?

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When I was taking the Trazadone together with the Prednisone, that was causing my insomnia and the reason I was originally taking Trazadone, I had very vivid dreams. When I stopped taking the Prednisone but continued the Trazadone my vivid dreams stopped. I take Trazadone now without vivid dreams but I’m not taking Prednisone right now, either. I don’t know if the Trazadone will help arrest your vivid dreams but good luck!

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@kanaazpereira

Hi @wpshooter,

Trazodone is an antidepressant, and is often prescribed in lower doses to ease insomnia and, as @sandytoes mentioned, because of it’s restful effect.
I take Trazodone at bedtime as well, and have not experienced any vivd dreams because of the drug. @blindeyepug @johnhans @ajgray @jay_baruch @lamerex4 @kyjeanne have written about Trazodone, and I wonder if they will join in to share their experiences while on this medication?

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May I ask what was the purpose of your taking the Prednisone, what was it supposed to accomplish for you ? Did you stop taking it on the advise of your doctor or did you stop taking it on your own ? Thanks.

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@kanaazpereira

Hi @wpshooter,

Trazodone is an antidepressant, and is often prescribed in lower doses to ease insomnia and, as @sandytoes mentioned, because of it’s restful effect.
I take Trazodone at bedtime as well, and have not experienced any vivd dreams because of the drug. @blindeyepug @johnhans @ajgray @jay_baruch @lamerex4 @kyjeanne have written about Trazodone, and I wonder if they will join in to share their experiences while on this medication?

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I was taking Prednisone at the time for a severe flare of Crohn’s disease, as an anti-inflammatory. I tapered off of it eventually under my GI doctor’s supervision. Today I take Humira for my Crohn’s along with Apriso (Mesalamine) with good success.

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