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Atrial Flutter

Posted by dandl48 Dave @dandl48, Dec 30, 2024

Was diagnosed a month ago With Atrial Flutter and in meetings with my Cardio MD he suggested an ablation to stop the flutter, hopefully reducing the chance of a stroke in the future. Any input is welcomed.

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lindy9 | @lindy9 | 4 days ago
In reply to @dandl48 "From my research, Garligin is a supplement made from garlic and ginger. According to webmd, "Garlic..." + (show)
@dandl48

From my research, Garligin is a supplement made from garlic and ginger. According to webmd, "Garlic has been used for blood vessel disease (atherosclerosis) and high blood pressure (hypertension). Consult your doctor for more information if you have heart or blood vessel disease or high blood pressure. Some herbal/dietary supplement products have been found to contain possibly harmful impurities/additives. Check with your pharmacist for more details about the brand you use. The FDA has not reviewed this product for safety or effectiveness. I haven't read anywhere in a medical review of Garligin that it acts as a blood thinner. How do you know that it does work as one?

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The FDA never approves anything that does not make them tons of money.

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timheart1 | @timheart1 | 4 days ago
In reply to @dandl48 "I would love to find an alternative to Eliquis since it's sooo expensive, but I need..." + (show)
@dandl48

I would love to find an alternative to Eliquis since it's sooo expensive, but I need more than the word of the seller that it is an effective blood thinner. Each to his own I guess.

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Why don't you try it for an month, give yourself a small cut, see for yourself. I am not kidding, it works.

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lindy9 | @lindy9 | 4 days ago
In reply to @timheart1 "Hi Dave , I have had flutter 3x, I have had 12 hours worth of ablations..." + (show)
@timheart1

Hi Dave , I have had flutter 3x, I have had 12 hours worth of ablations (different times). I live in Panama and my cardioligst her, who I have seen for 10 years, and changed his opinion on getting an ablation for flutter. "Tim, I think these ablations are dangerous, You have someone poking a wire around your heart not knowing exactly what they are looking for and it didn't work for you. If you go to your NY doctor, he will tell you, you need an ablation." I still have flutter. So, I have been diagnosed w/ ventricular trachycardia and fibrillation. I take Concor as needed for rapid hear beat. But my doctors tells me unless it is interfering w/ the quality of life, to leave it alone and live w/ it. I am on blood thinner, Garligin, that works as well as Eliquis with no side effects and cost 1/7 of Eliquis. So I live with it and get along fine.

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TimHeart - I agree. I think most scary procedures are dangerous. If you are eating a diet not high in meat, cheese, etc. your blood pressure will go down.

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dandl48 Dave | @dandl48 | 4 days ago
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@timheart1

Why don't you try it for an month, give yourself a small cut, see for yourself. I am not kidding, it works.

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I can see talking to my Cardo DR. about Garligin as a substitute for Eliquis, but I will NEVER take a supplement as a replacement without his input. Without his input and OK I might as well go to a witch doctor for treatment. And your suggestion on cutting myself as a test is just totally off the charts.

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timheart1 | @timheart1 | 4 days ago
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@dandl48

I can see talking to my Cardo DR. about Garligin as a substitute for Eliquis, but I will NEVER take a supplement as a replacement without his input. Without his input and OK I might as well go to a witch doctor for treatment. And your suggestion on cutting myself as a test is just totally off the charts.

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Your cardo Dr will never recomend it, that's the problem. Actually it was my wife that insisted I start taking it. You might think a pin prick is a dump idea, but I don't know holw else to convince you. I am telling you it works great as a blood thinner.

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timheart1 | @timheart1 | 4 days ago
In reply to @dandl48 "I can see talking to my Cardo DR. about Garligin as a substitute for Eliquis, but..." + (show)
@dandl48

I can see talking to my Cardo DR. about Garligin as a substitute for Eliquis, but I will NEVER take a supplement as a replacement without his input. Without his input and OK I might as well go to a witch doctor for treatment. And your suggestion on cutting myself as a test is just totally off the charts.

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Stay w/ Eliquis, I could care less.

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dandl48 Dave | @dandl48 | 4 days ago

I just love it when people think they know better than their doctors. Serious question, why even go to them if you aren't going to listen to them? I believe in science and the medical profession, sure there are quacks out there but they are very rare. Best of luck controlling your heart problem with an unproven and untested supplement. For me, it's a non-starter.

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Justin McClanahan, Moderator | @JustinMcClanahan | 4 days ago

Hello,

I'd like to remind everyone of the Community Guidelines (https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/about-connect/tab/community-guidelines/), in particular:

1. Be careful about giving out medical advice
- Experiences and information shared by members on the Mayo Clinic Connect are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment.
- Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have read on the community. See the full Disclaimer.

As a few members have mentioned, it is always best practice to discuss supplements, herbs or alternative treatments with your provider or ask for second opinions if you feel your concerns are not being heard or understood.

@dandl48, how are you doing in your recovery from your longer than expected ablation?

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dandl48 Dave | @dandl48 | 4 days ago
In reply to @JustinMcClanahan "Hello, I'd like to remind everyone of the Community Guidelines (https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/about-connect/tab/community-guidelines/), in particular: 1. Be careful..." + (show)
@JustinMcClanahan

Hello,

I'd like to remind everyone of the Community Guidelines (https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/about-connect/tab/community-guidelines/), in particular:

1. Be careful about giving out medical advice
- Experiences and information shared by members on the Mayo Clinic Connect are not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment.
- Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have read on the community. See the full Disclaimer.

As a few members have mentioned, it is always best practice to discuss supplements, herbs or alternative treatments with your provider or ask for second opinions if you feel your concerns are not being heard or understood.

@dandl48, how are you doing in your recovery from your longer than expected ablation?

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@JustinMcClanahan Thanks for asking, still a little tired, generally OK. Have contacted my Cardio doc's since my Blood Pressure is still higher than b4 the procedure. Asked him if the problem is because he took me off of diltiazem right after the procedure.

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raleedy | @raleedy | 3 days ago
In reply to @dandl48 "I would love to find an alternative to Eliquis since it's sooo expensive, but I need..." + (show)
@dandl48

I would love to find an alternative to Eliquis since it's sooo expensive, but I need more than the word of the seller that it is an effective blood thinner. Each to his own I guess.

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Generic apixaban is available through mail-order pharmacies in Canada at significant savings (still not cheap). US doctors seem to be comfortable providing prescriptions for this, and US customs and USPS seem no longer to be aggressive in protecting Bristol Myers' monopoly profits, at least where individual consumers are concerned.

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