Adult Onset Atopic Dermatitis

Posted by sandrajune @sandrajune, Feb 10, 2020

I was diagnosed after 14 months of mystery rashes and itching. I have had to switch all personal products and many household products to avoid triggers. I am wondering if anyone has found a good body moisturizer that lasts more than two hours or facial products that have enough moisture and don’t block pores and cause breakouts.

Sandrajune, Please stop using Palmolive Pure and Clear today. There is a class action lawsuit against it presently because they are falsely identifying this product as pure and clear. The EWG rates it at F. Just because it is marketed as pure and clear doesn't mean it is. It contains the villainous methylisothiazolinone/methylchloroisothiazolineone, MI/MCI, these are potent cheap preservatives banned in many European countries and many companies like Cottenelle are removing from their products. MI/MCI was one of the causes of my hand eczema as it is in Dawn dish soap and Palmolive which I used. Do you need a bottle of dish soap to stay good for 100 years? NO you don't but the manufacturers save money by having products with a longer shelf life. It is a common allergy.
Allergy safe dish soaps which clean well are hard to find and I have tried many. The best product I have found that works fine is ecover zero, I buy a case at Amazon. It does contain SLS a foaming agent which is also in common commercial products like Palmolive Pure and Clear. SLS is an allergen for some, but so far I am not allergic to it. Fragrance is also in the Palmolive but ecover is fragrance free. I no longer need to wear protective gloves washing dishes. No more hand eczema.
I also read that article about how common adult atopic dermatitis is becoming and I am certain my allergies developed because of exposure to chemicals and elements which were never added to earlier generations products. Good article. So far I don't have atopic and I dread it very much. That is really a mysterious form of eczema to me which much less understanding of the triggers.
Excellent advice to impatient suggesting she find a new dermatologist. Over the years I have seen many and except for my first derms which were worthless, only treating the rash with prescribed steroids and not educating me about diet and avoidance or offering any testing, I have learned a great deal from other derms. Not all derms are equal and we the patient need to understand we are not being disloyal searching for other opinions. It's our duty to ourselves to keep searching for help. We owe it to ourselves and and family.

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@sandrajune

Dear Impatient,

You story sounds a lot like mine. I went through nearly two years of mystery rashes culminating in macerated weeping patches under my arms. I went to multiple practitioners, including two dermatologists before getting the correct diagnosis and treatment. What I was told at Mayo was that I had become sensitive to products that I had been using for a long time. I changed by skin care to Vanicream products: soap, deodorant, moisturizer, skin screen. I had been using the same botanical/natural line for 18 years and discovered I had reactions to oils of many botanicals, shea butter, beeswax, which I hear is actually quite common. I switched to Tide Free & Clear. The changed their formulation recently and switched to All Free which has caused no problems. I found some face products after a bit of trial and error and I am still trying to find hair products that work for my curly, dry hair. I had a barrage of allergy tests that only showed a mild reaction to one ingredient used in suncreen. It is suggested that I have more test done; this time to fabrics. I also changed dish soap to Palmolive Pure & Clear.

I have seen an article recently published in the Next Avenue publication by NPT talking about how adult-onset atopic dermatitis is happening with more frequency. https://www.nextavenue.org/what-you-need-to-know-about-adult-eczema/?hide_newsletter=true&mc_cid=13b0c288bf&mc_eid=724dcaa435 It offers a good overview of the subject.

Find a new doctor. Get some Vanicream and move to non-allergenic products. See if that helps.

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I'm not suggesting you throw the Palmolive Pure and Clean away, just wear protective gloves like vinyl to block the toxins in it. Best vinyl gloves I have found for flexibility, comfort and quality are Clean Ones, pure Comfort Latex Free Gloves which are 100% vinyl. Amazon. I am not allergic to latex but another element in rubber, just because a glove says latex free doesn't mean it is free of rubber.

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@sandrajune

Dear Impatient,

You story sounds a lot like mine. I went through nearly two years of mystery rashes culminating in macerated weeping patches under my arms. I went to multiple practitioners, including two dermatologists before getting the correct diagnosis and treatment. What I was told at Mayo was that I had become sensitive to products that I had been using for a long time. I changed by skin care to Vanicream products: soap, deodorant, moisturizer, skin screen. I had been using the same botanical/natural line for 18 years and discovered I had reactions to oils of many botanicals, shea butter, beeswax, which I hear is actually quite common. I switched to Tide Free & Clear. The changed their formulation recently and switched to All Free which has caused no problems. I found some face products after a bit of trial and error and I am still trying to find hair products that work for my curly, dry hair. I had a barrage of allergy tests that only showed a mild reaction to one ingredient used in suncreen. It is suggested that I have more test done; this time to fabrics. I also changed dish soap to Palmolive Pure & Clear.

I have seen an article recently published in the Next Avenue publication by NPT talking about how adult-onset atopic dermatitis is happening with more frequency. https://www.nextavenue.org/what-you-need-to-know-about-adult-eczema/?hide_newsletter=true&mc_cid=13b0c288bf&mc_eid=724dcaa435 It offers a good overview of the subject.

Find a new doctor. Get some Vanicream and move to non-allergenic products. See if that helps.

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Thank you, @sandrajune! I'm already using non-allergenic laundry products but will try the Vanicream line and look forward to the article. Have your armpits gotten better?

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@gardeningjunkie

Sandrajune, Please stop using Palmolive Pure and Clear today. There is a class action lawsuit against it presently because they are falsely identifying this product as pure and clear. The EWG rates it at F. Just because it is marketed as pure and clear doesn't mean it is. It contains the villainous methylisothiazolinone/methylchloroisothiazolineone, MI/MCI, these are potent cheap preservatives banned in many European countries and many companies like Cottenelle are removing from their products. MI/MCI was one of the causes of my hand eczema as it is in Dawn dish soap and Palmolive which I used. Do you need a bottle of dish soap to stay good for 100 years? NO you don't but the manufacturers save money by having products with a longer shelf life. It is a common allergy.
Allergy safe dish soaps which clean well are hard to find and I have tried many. The best product I have found that works fine is ecover zero, I buy a case at Amazon. It does contain SLS a foaming agent which is also in common commercial products like Palmolive Pure and Clear. SLS is an allergen for some, but so far I am not allergic to it. Fragrance is also in the Palmolive but ecover is fragrance free. I no longer need to wear protective gloves washing dishes. No more hand eczema.
I also read that article about how common adult atopic dermatitis is becoming and I am certain my allergies developed because of exposure to chemicals and elements which were never added to earlier generations products. Good article. So far I don't have atopic and I dread it very much. That is really a mysterious form of eczema to me which much less understanding of the triggers.
Excellent advice to impatient suggesting she find a new dermatologist. Over the years I have seen many and except for my first derms which were worthless, only treating the rash with prescribed steroids and not educating me about diet and avoidance or offering any testing, I have learned a great deal from other derms. Not all derms are equal and we the patient need to understand we are not being disloyal searching for other opinions. It's our duty to ourselves to keep searching for help. We owe it to ourselves and and family.

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Wow – thanks for that. No idea about Dawn. I don't seem to have a sensitivity to it, but now I'll avoid it.

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@gardeningjunkie

I'm not suggesting you throw the Palmolive Pure and Clean away, just wear protective gloves like vinyl to block the toxins in it. Best vinyl gloves I have found for flexibility, comfort and quality are Clean Ones, pure Comfort Latex Free Gloves which are 100% vinyl. Amazon. I am not allergic to latex but another element in rubber, just because a glove says latex free doesn't mean it is free of rubber.

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I'm ready for more dish soap, so I will look for the Ecover Zero. Thanks for the suggestion. Didn't know about that dastardly preservative being in the Palmolive. It's ironic that even 7th Generation has it in their products, all the while advertising their products to be so E-friendly.

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@sandrajune

I'm ready for more dish soap, so I will look for the Ecover Zero. Thanks for the suggestion. Didn't know about that dastardly preservative being in the Palmolive. It's ironic that even 7th Generation has it in their products, all the while advertising their products to be so E-friendly.

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I agree. After I started getting eczema I shopped in the stores for products and bought both the Palmolive Free and Clear and 7th Generation products assuming they were safe for eczema. I could buy both of these products locally. After my patch test I started reading ingredients and learned most claims about products being safe, E friendly and natural meant nothing. I have accepted that. I can't imagine the challenge others faced years ago trying to find safe products before the internet.

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@babbs

Wow – thanks for that. No idea about Dawn. I don't seem to have a sensitivity to it, but now I'll avoid it.

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I still keep a bottle of Dawn for heavy duty de-greasing because it is simply the best degreasing dish soap. I just wear my gloves.

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