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Managing and Living With PACs and PVCs
Hello all. I have posted in this forum before and I thank you for your advice. I appreciate more support please.
I am about to turn 56 and I have dealt with PACs and PVCs for the past 20 years. The come and go and now they seem to be getting worse. My cardio, regular doc, and electrophysiologist all say that I am fine and that I have too much stress and anxiety (which I do..I suffer from GAD and depression.) They all say that PACs are benign and that most PVCs are benign.
I had an exercise stress echo in 2019 (all normal). Several EKGs this year...all normal. Another Zio Patch Heart Monitor that I wore for a week. Normal sinus rhythm with PACs. My PAC/PVC burden hovers between 1.5 to 1.8 percent. I have had a recent chest xray and plenty of blood work. All normal. I am borderline type 2 diabetic and my cholesterol and triglycerides are all normal. I do take blood pressure meds and it is well controlled. I try to be active almost every day and I do practice CBT for my anxiety. My resting heart rate is about 55 and my cardio says that is normal.
What else can I do to reduce the PACs and PVCs or manage them? Some days they are fast and furious and some days they simply come and ago. But they are ruining my daily life and causing more depression and fear. They are awful in the morning, reduce a bit in the afternoon, and reduce a bit more in the evening.
My cardio again states that they are fine and to not worry.
I have tried a beta blocker (made my heart rate too low and I was too tired) and a pill called Diltiazem. Really had no effect and made me too tired. I don't qualify for any procedure and the one pill they are still offering me is Flecianide but that one has WAY too many side effects and I have had at least two cardiologists warn me from taking it.
What are you experiences, advice, etc?
Thank you!
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Your welcome glad to help.
Yes I take Co-Q-10. My heart failure doctor and cardiologist recommended it to me because I take a statin which have been known to deplete co-q-10 and can make muscles ache. It also is touted to be an energy provider.
I take both Ubiquinol and Co-Q-10. Ubiquinol can be expensive so I take 100 mg of that and 300mg of high absorb Co-Q-10. I can tell the difference when I don't take it.
What brands of coq10 do you take? Do you take both forms? What dosage of each? Do you take both forms daily?
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What are the brands you take? Where do you get them? Do I have that correct you take both daily?
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1 ReactionI take what Costco sells locally, and that is Webber Naturals brand of ubiquinol. I only take one capsule of 100 mg per day, and I have done so while taking 40 mg daily of atorvastatin for two years now.
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I shop on line. I try to use coupons and specials. For 20 years I used to get all my products from PuritanPride. However lately they have a lot of items out of stock and has continued for some time now.
Vitacost is a huge company and you can find a lot of different companies products being sold there along with Vitacost products. NatureMade is a highy touted vitamin/supplement company. They have an excellent quality control reputation but are a little more expensive. Problem is Nature Made does not have all the supplements I take. Puritan Pride and Vitacost having a low purchase amount to get free shipping. Life Extensions is another company with a lot of products but seems to take a long time for shipments.
You can go on line and research quality vitamin and supplements companies and review any complaints made on them.
I do take both Ubiquinol and Co-Q-10. Ubiquinol is quite expensive. I take 100 mg of Ubiquinol and 300 (total) of high absorb Co-Q-10. I take Ubiquinol 1 time a day and Co-Q-10 3 times a day and use the 100 mg product of each.
My heart failure doctor wanted me to take at least 200 mg. of Co-Q-10. I had read that a larger amount is helpful he had no problem with me taking a larger dose. If Ubiquinol was not so expensive would just take it.
The taking of Co-Q-10 is quite common especially if you take a statin. I would check with your doctor on taking vitamins and supplements to ensure they are okay with them. Every time I have an appointment at Mayo, regardless of doctor, they go over my medications, vitamins and supplements with me.
When I had prostrate radiation they asked me to stop all my antioxidants. Reason, research states they (antioxidants) do protect cells but they also protect cancer cells. So radiologist/oncologist wanted not to be taking supplements that would help protect the cancer cells during radiation treatments.
Thank you again. One more question. Is coq10 and ubiquinol the same supplements?
They are basically the same. Ubiquinol is a enhancement and improved form of Co-Q-10. It is supposed to be stronger and easier absorbed by body.
If you shop on line bring up the two and read the products description and you will see the difference and benefits but see they are both considered Co-Q-10 just different forms of it.
You can also go on WEBMD and type in the information you want on a supplement or vitamin and get some really good feedback on it.
Take care!
Thanks for the info. Wishing you best of health in 2024
@713j , Same to you for 2024.
I just want to forget 2023. It was not a good year.
I was just reading that Ubiquinol is made in Japan. I guess that is why so expensive. I did find not so expensive ones at Life Extension. I also read that make sure it is Ubiquinol and not Ubiquinene (spell) which is the regular Co-Q-10.
I see some brands promoting quick absorb and claims like 3 times better absorption. Not sure of that claim but if same cost as regular co-q-10 will buy it.
Take care!
Yes I’m looking for ubiquinol that does contain sunflower oil
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