Anyone using Nicotine patches for Long Covid?

Posted by tgroff @tgroff, Apr 19, 2023

There is lots of discussion on Facebook Long Covid forums about nicotine patches helping with long covid symptoms after a few days of adjustment to the patches. Any thoughts on this?

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@christine99

Yes I tried nicotine patches and it helped me to ged rid of fatigue and exercise intolerance, which I had both for 1 year.

It was that study of Dr. Marco Leitzke (on you tube).

I did as he recommended, 2 days 3,5mg /24h patches, followed by 7 days 7mg/24h patches and 2 days of 3,5/24h patches.

I tolerated it well. Of course there was a strange feeling in my brain, like something is busy working. And I sweat. But it was just in the beginning.
I had my ups and downs (fatigue) during the patches, but all in all it was better with the patches. I had more energy.

The 3 first days after I stopped using the nicotine patches, I was like before or even worse.
Then, day by day it startet to get better. On day 22 (counted from the beginning when I startet with nicotine patches), I felt as I had no more fatigue, exercise intolerance, brain fog and difficulties to find words.

But I‘m still not that fit as I used to be. I am on day 26 today.
I have still often cold feeds, prone to catch colds, have to eat all 4 hours 400kcl.

But I have my energy back and can go out for 1 hour walks! I couldn’t do that for 1 year! Sometimes I couldn’t go out at all, just lying on the couch for weeks.

I can feel, it is getting better from week to week.

I am a 41 year old nurse, slim, no smoking and was sportive before I got LongCOVID.

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Congratulations! And thank you for sharing with us.

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@carlosmayo

Has anyone tried nicotine patches for their long covid? I would be interested to hear your experience - good, bad, whatever.

There is an article with a test on four people and positive results ... but who knows given the small sample size and lack of other literature confirming the efficacy.
https://bioelecmed.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s42234-023-00104-7

Thank you

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After a reaseaech pub was reported to me, i began patches in October 2023. The dose of 7 mg patch dis nothing. About 10 days in I added two four mg gums twice per day. I noted some slight improvement on Long Covid symptoms. My situation Is extreme. I have had covid and long covid 12 times. I increased nicotine by patch, gim, pouch over time to mid 45 mg per day. I began seeing nearly daiky improvement. After 30 days I was long covid free and ths bonus was the nicotine treatment also reduced my covid reactive arthritis from flares lasting 3 to 4 days (using many plant based anti-inflamatory products prenicotine to About 8 hours for moderate flare. I also use THC cream, abd codeine, the patch is aoplied on the flare site. (my wife'

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@dloos

Interested to know if anyone has had Stellate Ganglion Block or NAD/NADH therapy.
Let us know if it helped.

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I've had the ganglion block twice. No real change for the better or worse.

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This is extremely interesting, and something my girlfriend and I have joked about. She is a vaper... twice when I have visited with her, once in the USA and once in the UK, my symptoms subsided to nothing. When she leaves, they return eventually. I thought it was, perhaps, stress or coincidence, but perhaps there is something to the nicotine aspect of this. As I'm currently awaiting a SGB appointment, I may try following the study's recommendation.

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@carlosmayo

Yes, hearing whether the effects are permanent after treatment is complete would be super helpful. For something else I took an antibiotic and it almost made all my long covid symptoms go away. I thought maybe I was cured. But when I stopped the antibiotic all the LC symptoms came rushing back. I have heard this is not uncommon ... so the real test of the patches is do they have lasting benefits. Thank you!

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I had this experience with Doxy... I had a huge spike, followed by what was an almost complete remission. Then, a few days post-antibiotic, the symptoms came back.

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@stumpedandgrumped

I had this experience with Doxy... I had a huge spike, followed by what was an almost complete remission. Then, a few days post-antibiotic, the symptoms came back.

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I had the same experience with doxycycline ... not the spike, but huge decline in symptoms for the 14days I was taking it, and then the symptoms all came back when I stopped.

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@carlosmayo

I had the same experience with doxycycline ... not the spike, but huge decline in symptoms for the 14days I was taking it, and then the symptoms all came back when I stopped.

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Interesting! For me, it was a bit different. The first week or so of Doxy, my symptoms would spike, including symptoms that had mostly faded out. After what I called "spike day," the symptoms would vanish over 1-3 days, being entirely gone on the final day. After the cycle ended, though, I would find symptoms returning after a few days.

I've run through that cycle twice; my doctor is willing to experiment with me to try different things if I sell it well. Of note... my infectious disease specialist (I have been trying everything) did note that Doxy is also an anti-inflammatory, so that may be why it works.

Things that have not worked:
- Gabapentin
- Prednisone
- SSRIs (The dreaded "in your head" angle)
- LDN
- NSAIDS
- Stretching (No, really, I was told by my since-fired PCP to 'stretch' because diffuse nerve irritation was clearly curable by stretching...)
- Wrist braces ('it might just be inexplicably pulled tendons!)
- Summoning Cthulu (well, still awaiting results there)

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@cyclones30

I've had the ganglion block twice. No real change for the better or worse.

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I’m interested in hearing more about your SGB injection. I had my first SGB on January 22 and I’m having another one done February 2nd. I noticed a slight change on my tongue, I had more taste ability further down on my tongue and my throat than before. I also have a slightly better ability to smell certain scents than I could before. It is, however, very slight, but it’s an improvement over nothing at all.

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And the experiment with Nicotine patches begins. I'll keep y'all posted either way.

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@stumpedandgrumped

This is extremely interesting, and something my girlfriend and I have joked about. She is a vaper... twice when I have visited with her, once in the USA and once in the UK, my symptoms subsided to nothing. When she leaves, they return eventually. I thought it was, perhaps, stress or coincidence, but perhaps there is something to the nicotine aspect of this. As I'm currently awaiting a SGB appointment, I may try following the study's recommendation.

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This is not an accident or coincidence. I dipped snuff 39 years and had the flu only twice with no vaccines. No stomach or other viruses to speak of. My family, wife and kids, were typically sick from the exposure at the disease factory (schools).

In 2018 my insurance company made me quit. After some months I started experiencing the same sicknesses my family did.

Irony. No. Causation, loss of nicotine protection, anti-inflamatory effect, and loss of alkaloid impact on virus replication.

Each average dip of Copenhagen long cut (strongest) has about 12 to 13 mg nicotine.

It take three 4 mg gums to equal or two 7 mg patches or two Zyn (just short).

To further exemplify the impact, I would typically have 6 to 8 dips per day (16 to 17 hour work day).

Immunity.

The medical complex says nicotine is addictive. Really, I am not addicted to potato, tomato, tomatilla, peppers, or other nicotine producing species in the family Solanaceae (nightshade).

Tradh medicine. The additives in tobacco are the addictive components, not nicotine. Tobacco is in the same plant family (botanical) as tomato, pepper, potato, eggplant, and tomatilla and many other genera.

I wish I knew this about nicotine in 2020.

Remember when....
Eggs were bad
Coffee was bad (coffee is in bitter herb family and very good for your heart and brain)
Butter was bad
Margarine was good
Marbelled meat was bad
All oils were bad
All fats where bad...

Do you wonder why we have an epidemic of hip, knee, and shoulder replacements? Impact on hyuronic acid and senovial fluid.

Poor statistics and bad designs in the hands of those ignorant of populations studies, proper sample size, and design to test the hypothesis properly have made us all sick.

Study increase in allergic response to peanuts after doctors research directed the medical community to remove peanuts from the diet of pregnant and nursing women.

It went up drastically. Does this not seem counter intuitive to remove foods that pass through the embelycal cord?

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