Does surgery work for Laryngopharyngeal Reflux (LPR)?

Posted by Bpositive @bpositive, Jun 13, 2017

Since December 13, 2016. My symptoms started with a soar throat, soar inflamed taste buds on the tip of my tongue and inflamed salivary glands on my soft palate. My tongue, throat and soft palate had a painful burning sensation that was on and off. My General practitioner referred me to an Ear Nose throat specialist who referred me to an oral surgeon who referred me to an oral pathologist for burning mouth syndrome. After wasting 3 months of running around with these Dr's and being tested for oral thrush, hsv tests, vitamin deficiency tests, auto immune deficiency tests, cultural bacteria tests all which came back normal. I decided to go for a second opinion with another E.N.T. specialist who performed a camera scope and diagnosed me with acid in my throat. I was put on Dexilant and noticed the pain dissipate almost immediately only problem was I couldn't tolerate the medication. I was then put on Tecta and referred to a G. I. My general Practitioner did some blood work for h pylori and I tested positive. I started to develop tinitus in my left ear. I had a gastroscopy where they found a 2 cm Hiatel Hernial and my lower sphincter was weak. Thats when I was told I have a mild case of gerd, but I don't suffer from any heart burn. I was put on triple dose of antibiotics for h pylori and continued with the Tecta, domperadone and sucrolafate. I'm getting a little relief from the PPI and meds but I still suffer from bitter reflux taste and burning pain in my throat, soft Palate, the tip of my tongue and dry mouth that comes and goes. I'm in the process of having a 24 hr ph level test done. The G. I. I was seeing says my esophagus biopsy tested clean and he doesn't believe what is happening in my oral cavity is related to my gut. He stated in order for acid to travel to the throat it has to travel through the esophagus and the esophagus tested clean. Thus he can't help me anymore. I'm so confused my ENT says I have acid in my throat and the G.I. doesn't agree.

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Profile picture for kbro2010 @kbro2010

This sounds exactly like me. I had a panic attack because I was unable to breathe. I went to the ER. They told me I have acid reflux but after tests and no heartburn I have LPR. The GI doctor just wants to treat me with ppi meds. Have have been on 3 different ones because they do not work for me. Not sure what to do. Have you found any relief?

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This has been mentioned several times before, but check out The Chronic Cough Enigma by Dr. Jamie Koufmann. It’s an easy to understand explanation of LPR with suggestions on how to remedy the problem-or at least improve. Book is appropriate even if you don’t have a cough, just the sore throat.

Best wishes, Cindy

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Profile picture for cmdw2600 @cmdw2600

This has been mentioned several times before, but check out The Chronic Cough Enigma by Dr. Jamie Koufmann. It’s an easy to understand explanation of LPR with suggestions on how to remedy the problem-or at least improve. Book is appropriate even if you don’t have a cough, just the sore throat.

Best wishes, Cindy

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I have 2 of her books and watch her monthly q&a. It has been helpful. I have changed my diet but still have issues with congestion and the Globus sensation daily.

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Profile picture for sanchopanza @sanchopanza

Hi. My problem started about a month ago when I started chugging down a glass of water and suddenly I had a spasm in the area of my pharynx. It scared me, and took several minutes to abate, but no other symptoms. Soon, I found that I could no longer drink orange juice without the same problem, and then ice cream gave me very thick saliva that was difficult to spit out as well as the tightness in my throat. I had had problems with normal heartburn in the past, but a few days of ranitidine (Zantac) and I was OK. I think this was because of my taking ibuprofen on an empty stomach. If the Zantac didn't help, which was seldom, I took Prilosec for 3 days and it was gone. Now, after the spasms, I began burping and having hiccups frequently, which was new to me, so I started on Prilosec 20mg once a day. I also changed my diet to conform with the diet for GERD and I think I'm beginning to get better, but it's taken a lot out of me because I've been on the same diet for a long time and all of a sudden I'm missing crucial nutrients that I ordinarily get. By the way, I"m 69 and have been healthy and disease free for at least 20 years. I want to discontinue the Prilosec because I've only been taking it for a little more than two weeks. I'm wondering if I could switch back to the Zantac 150mg twice a day without experiencing rebound symptoms because I've been on the Prilosec for such a short time. I can see that there are many people here with digestive health problems and I'm hoping someone can steer me in the right direction. My doctor is very good at giving labs and writing prescriptions, but he doesn't seem to do much doctoring, but that was OK, because I haven't had any serious health issues. He just told me " You know you have to see a gastroenterologist". Because of the holiday I haven't been able to schedule an appt. yet and now, with some of the symptoms lessening, I'm hoping there's a chance that I can switch to Zantac, or preferably cimetidine (Tagament) which helped me greatly when I developed an ulcer many years ago, and solve this problem without any intervention. The reason I want to stop taking it is because of the side effects. I've had diarrhea a few times and lots of headaches.I"m also worried about the things that can happen when you have so little stomach acid. I"d appreciate any comments from people who have had experience weaning off Prilosec after short term use, or anyone who has suffered with LPR or laryngopharangeal reflux, or anyone at all. Thanks for listening!!

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I also have LPR. It started as regular reflux about 13 years ago when I was pregnant. Then it turned to silent reflux. I never get heartburn. I have seen 2 gi, 2 ent and an allergist. None have been very helpful. They prescribed Flonase for my congestion and Claritin-d. I have been on 3 different ppi meds that didn’t work along with Pepcid before bed. I use Gaviscon with some relief. I have an adjustable bed to sleep at an incline. I have had an EGD and colonoscopy, Ct scans, an esophagram. I have the EGD with Bravo scheduled in Jan. I have totally changed my diet and lost 23 lbs which was not needed. I’m 5’3” and now weigh 107 🙁 I have purchased the acid diet books and read a ton of things online. Not sure what to do next. Has anyone found something that actually works or a doctor that knows what they are talking about. That seems to be my problem. I know the congestion, ear pain and pressure, nose blockage and cycling, throat gurgling, Globus sensation, and acid taste are all connected.

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Profile picture for kbro2010 @kbro2010

This sounds exactly like me. I had a panic attack because I was unable to breathe. I went to the ER. They told me I have acid reflux but after tests and no heartburn I have LPR. The GI doctor just wants to treat me with ppi meds. Have have been on 3 different ones because they do not work for me. Not sure what to do. Have you found any relief?

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It was suggested that I go see an allergist who specializes in sinuses.He did allergy testing and said I am very allergic to dust mites. He is sending me in a perscription for a new nasal spray, as I told him I have an anxiety attack when I cannot breathe thru my nose!! And actually, as the weather has changed, the nose closing off is less than before. I am hoping the new spray will be my salvation.

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It was suggested that I go see an allergist who specializes in sinuses.He did allergy testing and said I am very allergic to dust mites. He is sending me in a perscription for a new nasal spray, as I told him I have an anxiety attack when I cannot breathe thru my nose!! And actually, as the weather has changed, the nose closing off is less than before. I am hoping the new spray will be my salvation.

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I too went to an allergist. I also have a dust mite allergy. She tested me for over 40 things. I was told to use Flonase. It did not help so I was switched to Nasonex. That also has not help at all. I have seen a different ENT and he said I have a deviated septum. But I don’t think that would be the cause of the ear plugging, ringing, and lightheadedness.

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Profile picture for rosemaryhow @rosemaryhow

It was suggested that I go see an allergist who specializes in sinuses.He did allergy testing and said I am very allergic to dust mites. He is sending me in a perscription for a new nasal spray, as I told him I have an anxiety attack when I cannot breathe thru my nose!! And actually, as the weather has changed, the nose closing off is less than before. I am hoping the new spray will be my salvation.

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Just saw a pulmonologist who noticed in my history that my eosinophils (in cbc blood test) are high when I’m experiencing this chronic cough/nasal congestion after eating and at night especially before I lay down . I’ve had the “smoker’s” cough off and on for years. Sometimes it disappears spontaneously. Hope the symbacort he prescribed helps! I’ll keep you posted

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Profile picture for kbro2010 @kbro2010

I also have LPR. It started as regular reflux about 13 years ago when I was pregnant. Then it turned to silent reflux. I never get heartburn. I have seen 2 gi, 2 ent and an allergist. None have been very helpful. They prescribed Flonase for my congestion and Claritin-d. I have been on 3 different ppi meds that didn’t work along with Pepcid before bed. I use Gaviscon with some relief. I have an adjustable bed to sleep at an incline. I have had an EGD and colonoscopy, Ct scans, an esophagram. I have the EGD with Bravo scheduled in Jan. I have totally changed my diet and lost 23 lbs which was not needed. I’m 5’3” and now weigh 107 🙁 I have purchased the acid diet books and read a ton of things online. Not sure what to do next. Has anyone found something that actually works or a doctor that knows what they are talking about. That seems to be my problem. I know the congestion, ear pain and pressure, nose blockage and cycling, throat gurgling, Globus sensation, and acid taste are all connected.

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Do you have a hiatal hernia? Avoid wearing tight clothes around abdomen area and chest. Have you tried a PPI?

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Do you have a hiatal hernia? Avoid wearing tight clothes around abdomen area and chest. Have you tried a PPI?

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No, I do not have a hiatal hernia. They would have found it during the esophagram or EDG. I am not currently taking ppis. I was on omeprazole twice a day for a month with no help. Then pantoprazole twice a day for two months with no help. The side effects were awful so I stop taking them. I’m not a fan of tight clothing. And with the weigh loss all of my clothes are huge.

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Profile picture for kbro2010 @kbro2010

No, I do not have a hiatal hernia. They would have found it during the esophagram or EDG. I am not currently taking ppis. I was on omeprazole twice a day for a month with no help. Then pantoprazole twice a day for two months with no help. The side effects were awful so I stop taking them. I’m not a fan of tight clothing. And with the weigh loss all of my clothes are huge.

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Are you avoiding trigger foods - coffee, chocolate, mint, thick red tomato sauce, wine. Sometimes a person needs to eat 5 small meals instead of 3. Chew slowly. Also it could take about a month to two before you see improvement. Hopefully the test in January will give doctor more info. Have you had a esophageal manometry test? I found out that I have that in addition to a HH. There's a new drug that was recently approved that's different than PPIs. It's originally from Japan. Vonoprazan is the name.

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Profile picture for jackielb @jackielb

Are you avoiding trigger foods - coffee, chocolate, mint, thick red tomato sauce, wine. Sometimes a person needs to eat 5 small meals instead of 3. Chew slowly. Also it could take about a month to two before you see improvement. Hopefully the test in January will give doctor more info. Have you had a esophageal manometry test? I found out that I have that in addition to a HH. There's a new drug that was recently approved that's different than PPIs. It's originally from Japan. Vonoprazan is the name.

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I have avoided trigger foods since August 3rd when I found I had LPR. Im not a drinker. I would have the occasional soda that’s all. I’m on a low fat, low acid diet. And I’ve lost 30lbs 🙁 I’m now 105. I have always been a slow eater. That eats small meals. I have recently started to had a small snack between lunch and supper. I eat supper before 5pm to give it time to digest before bed. I have not had the manometry test. That was one of the test my GI doctor suggested after the Bravo. Thank you for replying

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