Ascending Aortic Aneurysm and Exercise

Posted by bryanfox @bryanfox, Aug 31, 2019

New to this, nervous (like everyone). 44YO male, 5'10", 195 lb, diagnosed with 4.3cm ascending aortic aneurysm last month. Doctors put me on beta blockers, resting BP around 128/70 since I started with them (it was over 140 before, but only in the last year did I see abnormally high BP). I go to the gym 5 times a week. Cardiologist told me to continue exercising, but not to lift over 100lb (I use machines, not freeweights, so I'm not lifting over 100lb anyway). But I'm curious about cardio as well - I go 3-4 miles on the elliptical 3-4 times a week, and I sweat. I'm sure my BP is raised while doing that. Is this healthy?

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@debbieh5

This is my first time to post so I hope I am in the right thread. I was diagnosed with a 4.0 aneurysm two years ago and it has remained stable. My cardiologist suggested that I have a nuclear stress test which I had three years ago. My blood pressure has been steady around 130/85 and even though I take a beta blocker which was increased two years ago. The last time I took a nuclear stress test, my blood pressure went up pretty high. All of my other tests that I have had are normal except for my aneurysm. I’m nervous about taking it, but my doctor has said it is safe. I scheduled an appointment to talk to her about it, but wondered if anyone has gone through this test after being diagnosed. Thank you. I have learned so much from all of your posts which has helped me accept and move forward safely.

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I would strongly urge you not to have this stress test. You don't need to stress that aneurysm wall. What possible good is a stress test going to do? Does she have reasons for doing this? What are those reasons? Is this going to change something about your care?
Sometimes I wonder where our physicians come up with these ideas? (In my own life time I have avoided a lot of procedures and medical care simply by asking questions and saying no when it made no sense to me.)
Your resting blood pressure seems just a little high. You need to talk to a sub specialist cardiologist that has lots of experience with aneurysms.

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@upartist: I noticed your signature while trolling this thread. I follow the thread because I have a dilation of my ascending aorta. I wondered whether you are in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. If not, I ask because it's commonly called the UP. Also I live in the UP and know we have lots of artists! There are not that many of us here ... here together on the UP. 🙂

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@hsminc

I would strongly urge you not to have this stress test. You don't need to stress that aneurysm wall. What possible good is a stress test going to do? Does she have reasons for doing this? What are those reasons? Is this going to change something about your care?
Sometimes I wonder where our physicians come up with these ideas? (In my own life time I have avoided a lot of procedures and medical care simply by asking questions and saying no when it made no sense to me.)
Your resting blood pressure seems just a little high. You need to talk to a sub specialist cardiologist that has lots of experience with aneurysms.

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Thank you. Good advice.

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I have a 4.3 ascending one also and play pickleball, hip hop dance exercise, garden, walk, in general, live a normal life. I make sure I don’t do anything that gets me totally out of breath but I do push myself and enjoy life. Other than that, I’m healthy 69 yo that hopes to live s long time😀

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@bitsygirl

@upartist: I noticed your signature while trolling this thread. I follow the thread because I have a dilation of my ascending aorta. I wondered whether you are in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. If not, I ask because it's commonly called the UP. Also I live in the UP and know we have lots of artists! There are not that many of us here ... here together on the UP. 🙂

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Hi bitsygirl. No I am not in that area you mentioned, in Michigan. My signature has a different meaning. But thanks for asking. I hope you are doing ok with your dilated aorta.

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@upartist

Hi bitsygirl. No I am not in that area you mentioned, in Michigan. My signature has a different meaning. But thanks for asking. I hope you are doing ok with your dilated aorta.

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@upartist: Thanks for replying and the well wishes. Hope the visit with the aorta doctor was productive. Yours sounds like a complicated case. Hang in there,

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I am new to the thread and see the posts are a few years old, but my experience has been positive in terms of exercise.

I am 65 and take blood pressure meds which work well for me. My ascending aortic aneurism measures 4.3cm. I am an avid bikers and compete in various events. My heart rate will consistently climb into the 180’s during full exertion. My cardiologist is not concerned with my activities. We have been following the aneurism for two years without any changes. I also lift weights with no restriction and water and snow ski.

There is a study out of Harvard that has followed older elite endurance athletes with ascending aneurisms. It is too early to say but in the conclusion of the study there is a comment that these types of aneurysms could be an adaptation to endurance exercise. I contacted the lead author and he was quick to caution me that it is far too early to draw a conclusion. There is a similarity to increases ventricle size as an adaptation to endurance exercise. I would also suggest speaking with your cardiologist for guidance. I may be an outlier in terms of no exercise restrictions.

Here is the article citation from JAMA Cardiology February 26, 2020;

Association of Ascending Aortic Dilatation and Long-term
Endurance Exercise Among Older Masters-Level Athletes

TimothyW. Churchill, MD; Erich Groezinger, MS; Jonathan H. Kim, MD; Garrett Loomer, MS; J. Sawalla Guseh, MD; Meagan M.Wasfy, MD;
Eric M. Isselbacher,MD, MHCDS; Gregory D. Lewis, MD; Rory B.Weiner, MD; Christian Schmied, MD; Aaron L. Baggish, MD

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Hello fellow TAAA's. This is a general comment, in support of all of you who are are attempting to stay active. The ascending aortic diseases are extremely variable. Get with your treating physicians and their supporting clinicians to understand your specific contributing etiologies, before you initiate an activity program. Some of us may feel like we are not doing enough as we listen to the stories of the various athletes with aneurysms. Its very good for them, but not for everyone. Sometimes a little to just moderate is enough, sometimes its too much. There is a lot of research going on with familial aortic disease due to the occurrence of premature dissection. The take away is: follow your basic cardiovascular guidelines and really monitor your blood pressure. The blood pressure fluctuates with various activities from weights, to cardio, to daily activities, to body positions (like putting on socks), and to stress levels. So pat yourselves on the back for working towards staying active!!! Stay with your personalized treatment strategies for your particular aortic situation. And most of all, embrace happiness!!!
UPArtist

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@upartist

Hello fellow TAAA's. This is a general comment, in support of all of you who are are attempting to stay active. The ascending aortic diseases are extremely variable. Get with your treating physicians and their supporting clinicians to understand your specific contributing etiologies, before you initiate an activity program. Some of us may feel like we are not doing enough as we listen to the stories of the various athletes with aneurysms. Its very good for them, but not for everyone. Sometimes a little to just moderate is enough, sometimes its too much. There is a lot of research going on with familial aortic disease due to the occurrence of premature dissection. The take away is: follow your basic cardiovascular guidelines and really monitor your blood pressure. The blood pressure fluctuates with various activities from weights, to cardio, to daily activities, to body positions (like putting on socks), and to stress levels. So pat yourselves on the back for working towards staying active!!! Stay with your personalized treatment strategies for your particular aortic situation. And most of all, embrace happiness!!!
UPArtist

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Thank you UP Artist! Common sense for all of us.
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@bbarb

Thank you UP Artist! Common sense for all of us.
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I'd like to welcome @bbarb and @kj10 to the discussion.

@kj10, it sounds like you are extremely active and work closely with your provider to monitor the safety of your activities. Have you experienced any issues during your activities? It is wise guidance to share with other members that each person's experience may differ.

@bbarb, are you currently exercising and what sort of activities do you like to do?

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