Effexor Tapering Off and Side Effects

Posted by gaile12 @gaile12, Aug 22, 2022

I am tapering off Effexor after being on it for over a decade. I've noticed my stomach gets queasy & I have digestion issues. Has anybody else had this problem?

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Profile picture for redandwhite123 @redandwhite123

After the six/seven weeks of Sertraline, they switched me to 75mg Venlafaxine but increased that incrementally to 225mg within a week. I was on the 225mg dose for approximately 30 days.

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One tends to look for parallels to the dose /treatment you were given as a comparator. From the deluge of data I have accumulated, your prescribed accelerated rate of dose increase seems far too fast. Interestingly, FAR MORE females take AD's compared to men. Also, - See Documentary - Dr's seem all over the place with AD administration protocols. With me, they tried after 8 MONTHS on 75mg = (despite me crippled with most of the bad side-effects), to up dose to 150mg. As a immediate result, on Xmas day 2017, I was sat with sweat running through my hair & quite delerious !! I kid you not. I stopped 150mg after 3 pills & went back to 75mg. Breathing problems were the final straw , starting Sept 2018. Then began titration. TOO FAST @ first 75mg to 37.5 in a month then 0. Vertigo took 3 days to subside & felt terrible .Internet advice NO, do not stop so quick. Go back to 75mg & start again , very , very slowly. Titration took from Oct 2018 to Oct 2022. Still get most terrible side effect symptoms.

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In March I started on Zoloft/Sertraline to treat depression, and after noticing it wasn't helping, I was switched to Effexor/Venlafaxine 225mg. After another six weeks, I noticed the Effexor wasn't working, so I decided to go off it, tapering down over two weeks.

Once I was fully off the drug in mid July, I began having the brain zaps, nausea, and other symptoms, but it was all fairly tolerable. Two weeks later these symptoms began to subside just in time for my planned vacation in America. I live in Europe.

Throughout the whole 10-day vacation, I miraculously felt completely symptom-free, but began experiencing symptoms again the very day I returned to Europe (seven days ago).

I was initially hoping it was due to jet lag, but seven days seems quite long for that. I feel generally unwell and mildly nauseous much of the time, which leads to low moods. I'm also very fatigued and sleeping 9-10 hours a day. It seems to be good-quality, restful sleep. No more brain zaps though, but occasional headaches.

I'd really like to know whether these symptoms are more likely to be a continuation of Effexor withdrawal or some sort of (travel-induced) depression relapse. I don't understand how I could feel so well on vacation and then immediately feel bad again.

Thanks in advance for the input!

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I have seen that documentary. It was one of the reasons I decided to get off the medication.
Compared to the other posts here and on survivingantidepressants, my symptoms seem fairly mild. I don't want to restart any medication.
Fortunately, I don't have any pain, dizziness, anxiety, sleep, or cognitive problems. It's just a queasy feeling with a low mood.

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Profile picture for redandwhite123 @redandwhite123

In March I started on Zoloft/Sertraline to treat depression, and after noticing it wasn't helping, I was switched to Effexor/Venlafaxine 225mg. After another six weeks, I noticed the Effexor wasn't working, so I decided to go off it, tapering down over two weeks.

Once I was fully off the drug in mid July, I began having the brain zaps, nausea, and other symptoms, but it was all fairly tolerable. Two weeks later these symptoms began to subside just in time for my planned vacation in America. I live in Europe.

Throughout the whole 10-day vacation, I miraculously felt completely symptom-free, but began experiencing symptoms again the very day I returned to Europe (seven days ago).

I was initially hoping it was due to jet lag, but seven days seems quite long for that. I feel generally unwell and mildly nauseous much of the time, which leads to low moods. I'm also very fatigued and sleeping 9-10 hours a day. It seems to be good-quality, restful sleep. No more brain zaps though, but occasional headaches.

I'd really like to know whether these symptoms are more likely to be a continuation of Effexor withdrawal or some sort of (travel-induced) depression relapse. I don't understand how I could feel so well on vacation and then immediately feel bad again.

Thanks in advance for the input!

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I was put on 450mg of Venlafaxine/Effexor 15 years ago, when I went to a doctor for what I thought was depression. Now that I know what depression really is, I was sad and exhausted. He also put me 450mg of Wellbutrin and 900mg of Lithium all at once. Within a year I was thinking of suicide at least weekly.

Scroll forward ten years and I finally insisted on being taken off of the drugs he refused. No psychiatrist would touch me. The thought was that if I am on so much medication I must be really messed up. Never mind that I was very successful, married with four children and well off. I had zero reasons to be suicidal and every reason to rejoice.

I sold my companies and retired to be home with my children and give my wife a break. I decide to take myself off the meds, I cut all of them in half in two weeks. By this time every doctor that I had seen put me on addition meds. They never took any away. Dropping my meds so fast was a disaster. I had every side effect from the discontinuation of these drugs that you read in about, including brain Zaps every five to 10 minutes.

I have written before about how bad things got, my point is stopping without medical support is very difficult. Fortunately you have been on a low dose for a relatively short period of time. It should make its way out of your system probably taking the same length of time as your were on it.

You can speed that up by exercising as vigorously as you can. Sweat as much as possible. Clean up your diet so that whatever is in your system can be replaced by good health nutrients. I found that eliminating sugar wherever I can has made a big difference.

In June I had a shot gun in my hand ready to end my life and I thought "it would be stupid to blow my head off without trying to figure out what was going on". So I started to do something I know how to do; research.

Here is what I found: (as it applies to me)

No one really knows why these medications are effective at all. The know what they do but the why is squishy.

The possible effects on the human body (who was the idiot that thought they could treat the brain and not effect the body) are impossible to calculate.

Insurance companies like medication because it's quick, talk therapy takes a much longer time. So, they bifurcated mental health. Some people write prescriptions and some people counsel. Neither one has the full picture, a recipe for disaster.

How did this happen? Pharmaceutical companies spending billions developing a drug. Guess who pays for the drug trials? Yeah, you got it. Might there be a confirmation bias perhaps even a conflict of interest. Drug companies are for profit companies. Think about that. We are being sold drugs that have so many side effects they can't list them all. All psych meds have warnings regarding thoughts of suicide or suicidal actions as possible side effects; What!

Why were these drugs approve? Did the FDA (here in the States) take a look at them. Sure they did, using the drug companies data! The FDA does not pay for or run trials. "Well just put warnings and disclaimers on the drugs and let the consumer and his doctor figure it out." Who, what doctor? My PCP or the psych provider who put me on them. They have no idea what the other one is doing.

I concluded it was up to me to figure this out and make my case to my doctors. I spent a month researching every drug I was on, fourteen at the time and all their interactions and came to the conclusion that I should never have been put on antidepressants at age forty three to begin with. I needed rest possibly some time with a therapist and I needed to get more than five hours sleep a night. In other words lifestyle changes. It is the medication that was and is making me sick.

I presented my findings to my two providers and I am down to four psyche meds and two side effect meds. They believed my findings were rational and my plan for titrating off reasonable. I am down to 337 of Effexor in month. I have dropped Lithium to 750 some others are just gone. So far no discontinuation effects. What I didn't expect was fifteen years of feelings not felt, would come rushing back in. Maybe that's why it is so difficult to get off these drugs.

I have to stress I am doing this with medical support. My blood work is checked no less than monthly. My blood pressure will be daily as soon as my home monitor arrives. I exercise two hours a day six days a week and I try to eat a clean healthful diet. I am also staring a company to do my best to make sure others do not go through what I've gone through.

More detail than you probably wanted. All I really have to offer, is do your home work and take care of your body. I believe it can be done or at least I have hope. For me when the side effects became too much to take (let's kill the patient to save his life) I finally took action. I guess that's what it takes.

For all those with mental health conditions and every one trying to help we have been taken advantage of we are one big drug trial and this time we paid for it.

Be well!

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Profile picture for redandwhite123 @redandwhite123

In March I started on Zoloft/Sertraline to treat depression, and after noticing it wasn't helping, I was switched to Effexor/Venlafaxine 225mg. After another six weeks, I noticed the Effexor wasn't working, so I decided to go off it, tapering down over two weeks.

Once I was fully off the drug in mid July, I began having the brain zaps, nausea, and other symptoms, but it was all fairly tolerable. Two weeks later these symptoms began to subside just in time for my planned vacation in America. I live in Europe.

Throughout the whole 10-day vacation, I miraculously felt completely symptom-free, but began experiencing symptoms again the very day I returned to Europe (seven days ago).

I was initially hoping it was due to jet lag, but seven days seems quite long for that. I feel generally unwell and mildly nauseous much of the time, which leads to low moods. I'm also very fatigued and sleeping 9-10 hours a day. It seems to be good-quality, restful sleep. No more brain zaps though, but occasional headaches.

I'd really like to know whether these symptoms are more likely to be a continuation of Effexor withdrawal or some sort of (travel-induced) depression relapse. I don't understand how I could feel so well on vacation and then immediately feel bad again.

Thanks in advance for the input!

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Are you withdrawing from Effexor or Effexor XR (extended relief)? My experience going off of 37.5mg of Effexor was terrible. I had a much better experience titrating the XR. I am always depressed after vacation. My life at home is such drudgery. It could be a combination of withdrawal and vacation let down. I hope you feel better soon!

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I was put on 450mg of Venlafaxine/Effexor 15 years ago, when I went to a doctor for what I thought was depression. Now that I know what depression really is, I was sad and exhausted. He also put me 450mg of Wellbutrin and 900mg of Lithium all at once. Within a year I was thinking of suicide at least weekly.

Scroll forward ten years and I finally insisted on being taken off of the drugs he refused. No psychiatrist would touch me. The thought was that if I am on so much medication I must be really messed up. Never mind that I was very successful, married with four children and well off. I had zero reasons to be suicidal and every reason to rejoice.

I sold my companies and retired to be home with my children and give my wife a break. I decide to take myself off the meds, I cut all of them in half in two weeks. By this time every doctor that I had seen put me on addition meds. They never took any away. Dropping my meds so fast was a disaster. I had every side effect from the discontinuation of these drugs that you read in about, including brain Zaps every five to 10 minutes.

I have written before about how bad things got, my point is stopping without medical support is very difficult. Fortunately you have been on a low dose for a relatively short period of time. It should make its way out of your system probably taking the same length of time as your were on it.

You can speed that up by exercising as vigorously as you can. Sweat as much as possible. Clean up your diet so that whatever is in your system can be replaced by good health nutrients. I found that eliminating sugar wherever I can has made a big difference.

In June I had a shot gun in my hand ready to end my life and I thought "it would be stupid to blow my head off without trying to figure out what was going on". So I started to do something I know how to do; research.

Here is what I found: (as it applies to me)

No one really knows why these medications are effective at all. The know what they do but the why is squishy.

The possible effects on the human body (who was the idiot that thought they could treat the brain and not effect the body) are impossible to calculate.

Insurance companies like medication because it's quick, talk therapy takes a much longer time. So, they bifurcated mental health. Some people write prescriptions and some people counsel. Neither one has the full picture, a recipe for disaster.

How did this happen? Pharmaceutical companies spending billions developing a drug. Guess who pays for the drug trials? Yeah, you got it. Might there be a confirmation bias perhaps even a conflict of interest. Drug companies are for profit companies. Think about that. We are being sold drugs that have so many side effects they can't list them all. All psych meds have warnings regarding thoughts of suicide or suicidal actions as possible side effects; What!

Why were these drugs approve? Did the FDA (here in the States) take a look at them. Sure they did, using the drug companies data! The FDA does not pay for or run trials. "Well just put warnings and disclaimers on the drugs and let the consumer and his doctor figure it out." Who, what doctor? My PCP or the psych provider who put me on them. They have no idea what the other one is doing.

I concluded it was up to me to figure this out and make my case to my doctors. I spent a month researching every drug I was on, fourteen at the time and all their interactions and came to the conclusion that I should never have been put on antidepressants at age forty three to begin with. I needed rest possibly some time with a therapist and I needed to get more than five hours sleep a night. In other words lifestyle changes. It is the medication that was and is making me sick.

I presented my findings to my two providers and I am down to four psyche meds and two side effect meds. They believed my findings were rational and my plan for titrating off reasonable. I am down to 337 of Effexor in month. I have dropped Lithium to 750 some others are just gone. So far no discontinuation effects. What I didn't expect was fifteen years of feelings not felt, would come rushing back in. Maybe that's why it is so difficult to get off these drugs.

I have to stress I am doing this with medical support. My blood work is checked no less than monthly. My blood pressure will be daily as soon as my home monitor arrives. I exercise two hours a day six days a week and I try to eat a clean healthful diet. I am also staring a company to do my best to make sure others do not go through what I've gone through.

More detail than you probably wanted. All I really have to offer, is do your home work and take care of your body. I believe it can be done or at least I have hope. For me when the side effects became too much to take (let's kill the patient to save his life) I finally took action. I guess that's what it takes.

For all those with mental health conditions and every one trying to help we have been taken advantage of we are one big drug trial and this time we paid for it.

Be well!

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Thanks for your reply. Like you , notwithstanding I am allergic to ANY Anti - depressant. It later transpires mine was NOT a "mental health" problem, but an Adult Autistic Meltdown! (before AUTISM officially diagnosed. Dr's now say to NOT prescribe ANY A.D to "treat" meltdown's, but for them to recover, naturally , over time. So, the AD's have caused a whole host of NEW problems !! Autism is not a Mental health issue, but the anxiety & stress arising from it CAN cause "mental health". I am , it now transpires, a World rare Autistic SAVANT !

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Hello everyone, I have been in effexor for fifteen years been on 150 for seven. Finally found out a lot of my issues were do to ADHD so was on the wrong med. Finally think I found a good ADHD medsso been trying to lower my dose of effexor with psychatrist help. I went from 150 to 75. During the first few weeks felt vertigo and Shakey that went away. Then about four weeks into it felt body shocks. Now I feel like itchiness in scalp and tingling and brain zaps. Is this a normal side effects? Also thinking I jumped to big of a dose so thinking about going up 37.5 then taper off again from there. I do have a psych and he recommended that he is fantastic. It's been hard and stressful. But I am getting through it. Thank you for listening. Blessings.

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I am reducing my Effexor from 112 mg to 75 mg per day. I feel shaky and cold. Is that a normal withdrawal reaction?

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I am reducing my Effexor from 112 mg to 75 mg per day. I feel shaky and cold. Is that a normal withdrawal reaction?

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@dd1, welcome. You will find many tips and success stories in these related discussions:
- As promised, my successful tapering off Effexor (Venlafaxine) https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/as-promised-my-successful-tapering-off-effexor-venlafaxine/
— Tips on minimizing withdrawal symptoms from Effexor (aka Venlafaxine): https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/tips-on-minimising-withdrawal-symptoms-from-effexor-aka-venlafaxine/

The most commonly shared tip is "go slow". Fellow members like @grandmar @texasduchess @sheffieldsmith @jeffc16 @simon007 @intendtorecover @misterb3 and @jakedduck1 are sure to repeat that mantra. 🙂 And can hopefully also share further tips on how to manage the taper and side effects like shaking and feeling cold.

What dosage were you at when you started your taper? How long did you take 112 mg before moving to 75mg? And how long have you been on 75mg now?

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I am reducing my Effexor from 112 mg to 75 mg per day. I feel shaky and cold. Is that a normal withdrawal reaction?

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Hi there
For info I started when I was on 75mg per day and tapered down over 4 months following the tapering down advice provided.
I’m pleased to report I had zero side effects (which I’m sure we’re down to ‘taking it slowly’) and I’ve been Venlafaxine free now for several months.
A pill cutter is an absolute must in my view (picked mine up on Amazon) and a calendar to keep you on track (I used the calendar on my phone).
I’m quite sure I couldn’t have done it without following your advice in the post - it really does work.
Once again - a heartfelt thankyou!

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@dd1, welcome. You will find many tips and success stories in these related discussions:
- As promised, my successful tapering off Effexor (Venlafaxine) https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/as-promised-my-successful-tapering-off-effexor-venlafaxine/
— Tips on minimizing withdrawal symptoms from Effexor (aka Venlafaxine): https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/tips-on-minimising-withdrawal-symptoms-from-effexor-aka-venlafaxine/

The most commonly shared tip is "go slow". Fellow members like @grandmar @texasduchess @sheffieldsmith @jeffc16 @simon007 @intendtorecover @misterb3 and @jakedduck1 are sure to repeat that mantra. 🙂 And can hopefully also share further tips on how to manage the taper and side effects like shaking and feeling cold.

What dosage were you at when you started your taper? How long did you take 112 mg before moving to 75mg? And how long have you been on 75mg now?

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I have been on Effexor for about 10 years, 37.5, but I have been on some kind of antidepressant for about 35 years. My psychiatrist increased to 75, then 112 in the spring because my depression had gotten worse due to some things in my personal life. Things had gotten better, so he suggested that I titer down because people really were not supposed to stay on an antidepressant all their life, and my anxiety had gotten worse. I have been down to 75 for about a week and a half.

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Hello everyone, I have been in effexor for fifteen years been on 150 for seven. Finally found out a lot of my issues were do to ADHD so was on the wrong med. Finally think I found a good ADHD medsso been trying to lower my dose of effexor with psychatrist help. I went from 150 to 75. During the first few weeks felt vertigo and Shakey that went away. Then about four weeks into it felt body shocks. Now I feel like itchiness in scalp and tingling and brain zaps. Is this a normal side effects? Also thinking I jumped to big of a dose so thinking about going up 37.5 then taper off again from there. I do have a psych and he recommended that he is fantastic. It's been hard and stressful. But I am getting through it. Thank you for listening. Blessings.

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Has anyone experience, hyperactivity type symptoms, dyslexia, basic any type of concentrating due to the withdrawal of this horrible drug?

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