Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR): Meet others & Share Your Story

Welcome to the Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR) group on Mayo Clinic Connect.

Meet other members who are dealing with PMR. Let’s learn from each other and share stories about living well with PMR, coping with the challenges and offering tips.We look forward to welcoming you and introducing you to other members. Feel free to browse the topics or start a new one.

Grab a cup of coffee or beverage of choice and let’s chat. Why not start by introducing yourself? What's your experience with PMR? How are you doing today?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR) Support Group.

@nyxygirl

@dadcue Thank you for that as my doctors are at MGH!

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If you see Dr Stone tell him that someone in Iowa said thank-you.

The GiACTA study gave my rheumatologist the idea to try Actemra. It worked for me. After failing for 12 years to taper off prednisone, I was able to taper off in less than a year after Actemra was started.

I have been off prednisone for 2 years and counting. I have no side effects from Actemra that I'm aware of. My rheumatologist thinks Actemra is better than long term prednisone. I would agree but I would like to be off Actemra too.

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@bfh3

Hello! My rheumatologist recommended the increased/split dosage, after my 2nd 2-day stretch of over-the-top morning pain in 2 weeks. So I did ask, but it was really more "complaining" about the symptoms not getting better. Looking back, I was probably "too patient" before "raising the flag", thinking that, over time, the 15/day dosage could've made the symptoms gradually disappear even though the 20/day did not.

My PCP has not been involved since he referred me to the rheumatologist, although I've been keeping him in the loop on my progress.

To your earlier question, I asked my rheumatologist this morning when I should begin my taper. Since the new dosage (20+10), my symptoms have almost disappeared but not quite, so I asked if I need to wait until "all" symptoms disappear before the taper, or taper ASAP, since they've been almost negligible for 9 days now, but stable. My guess is that, if my shoulders have stayed about the same for 9 days, 2-3 more may not make a difference. I will keep you in the loop on how that goes.

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Made it through the weekend and still no recurrence of symptoms, going on almost 2 weeks with the 20 mg in the morning, 10 mg at night. My rheumatologist did recommend Friday that I stay on this dosage for 4 weeks total (~ 2 more weeks) before I try to taper. I think I actually did manage to side-sleep a couple of times this weekend, so I can't feel any better about the state of things now vs 2 weeks ago, when I needed help out of bed. I even pushed a little harder with the yardwork this past weekend and still have had no flare-ups. So fingers crossed that things stay this way for 2 more weeks!

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Thank you for sharing! Eleven years ago I woke to horrendous pain. Went to ER and my ESR &CRP were sky high. Put on 40mg prednisone and saw a rhyme dr the next day and up’d me to 60mg. Of course they tittered me down and added pain pills. Six months later U had to compression fractures back and pelvis. Three rhymes later I asked is it possible that I could have SERO NEGATINE RA? The dr says I was just going to talk with you about this, right!?! So now I’m on my 5th Rhuem and went on Remicade infusions. This worked well. Now I also had what was thought to be a bad case of Raynauds. Then the dr changed me to Rituxan Infusion as she thought I had CAD ( Cold agglutinate Disorder). Rituxan is the protocol for that. My research told me I don’t have all the factors for that. With my good insurance I was able to self refer to a Hematologist. After thousands of dollars & tons of tests, I now have type 1 Cryoglobulinemia. Treatment is the same- Rituxan.
What I have learned and My long point is….do your own research, question everything and be your own body’s own advocate!

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@slward1951

Thank you for sharing! Eleven years ago I woke to horrendous pain. Went to ER and my ESR &CRP were sky high. Put on 40mg prednisone and saw a rhyme dr the next day and up’d me to 60mg. Of course they tittered me down and added pain pills. Six months later U had to compression fractures back and pelvis. Three rhymes later I asked is it possible that I could have SERO NEGATINE RA? The dr says I was just going to talk with you about this, right!?! So now I’m on my 5th Rhuem and went on Remicade infusions. This worked well. Now I also had what was thought to be a bad case of Raynauds. Then the dr changed me to Rituxan Infusion as she thought I had CAD ( Cold agglutinate Disorder). Rituxan is the protocol for that. My research told me I don’t have all the factors for that. With my good insurance I was able to self refer to a Hematologist. After thousands of dollars & tons of tests, I now have type 1 Cryoglobulinemia. Treatment is the same- Rituxan.
What I have learned and My long point is….do your own research, question everything and be your own body’s own advocate!

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@slward1951 Your story is just amazing ! Jaw Dropping really - Every recent manuscript I have looked at alludes to this type of nagging issue ( in the PCP or Rhematologist's mind) is that the Dx of PMR is incorrect ! This was one of first papers i looked at and thought the name "familial Mediterranean fever" was very tantalizing !! I also like this Figure 2 because it presents PMR on a SPECTRUM from auto-inflammatory to the (true) autoimmune RDs, with a list of other ailments. There is another reference i have with a Table of PMR- Mimicking-diseases - i can add that later if anyone would like to see .
Floris a, Piga M, Cauli a, et al. Polymyalgia rheumatica: an autoinflammatory
disorder?. RMD Open 2018;4:e000694. doi:10.1136/ rmdopen-2018-000694
What insurance -may I ask ? I posted recently that the financial burden in USA of PMR can be upwards of $20,000.
Thank you for reminding us of the type of diligence to apply to your health!

BTW - for everyone , RITUXAN is a CD20-directed cytolytic antibody ( so against B cells)

Shared files

editorial 2018 e000694 (editorial-2018-e000694.full_-1.pdf)

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@bfh3

Made it through the weekend and still no recurrence of symptoms, going on almost 2 weeks with the 20 mg in the morning, 10 mg at night. My rheumatologist did recommend Friday that I stay on this dosage for 4 weeks total (~ 2 more weeks) before I try to taper. I think I actually did manage to side-sleep a couple of times this weekend, so I can't feel any better about the state of things now vs 2 weeks ago, when I needed help out of bed. I even pushed a little harder with the yardwork this past weekend and still have had no flare-ups. So fingers crossed that things stay this way for 2 more weeks!

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Hello @bfh3 -Aha ! you are being advised to do what seems to be described as a " slow "taper - 2.5mg /month ? And yes -my gardening work awaits me !
- Maybe @walkamok can plot our tapering side by side : ) - I have been advised to do the 2.5mg decrease for 30mg to 20mg in steps of 6-7 days - i will do that until i get back to 20 mg -- so by about June 22 when i have another appointment. My response to 30mg was quite remarkable - AND thanks to this forum the SPLIT DOSE WAS key - for my pain scoring at least ! Is there a clinician or SME that can comment on the origin of these two approaches ?? - Thank you !
P.S. Have you seen this :
Rheumatology 2020;59:1906–1915
Longitudinal clusters of pain and stiffness in
polymyalgia rheumatica: 2-year results from the
PMR Cohort Study
Sara Muller -1st author

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My name is Cynthia!
How's everyone doing this evening?
I was diagnosed with PMR September 2022.
My personal opinion after phfizer booster May 2022
in late July same year I developed PMR.
This pain and stiffness is something I wouldn't wish on anyway.
Your day to day living is disruptive, sleeping, outings, & etc.
I'm on Prednisone & every time it's reduce to 6mg pain comes back again.
Now my teeth are bothering me. This is new.

How do you all handle this?

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@juju1

My name is Cynthia!
How's everyone doing this evening?
I was diagnosed with PMR September 2022.
My personal opinion after phfizer booster May 2022
in late July same year I developed PMR.
This pain and stiffness is something I wouldn't wish on anyway.
Your day to day living is disruptive, sleeping, outings, & etc.
I'm on Prednisone & every time it's reduce to 6mg pain comes back again.
Now my teeth are bothering me. This is new.

How do you all handle this?

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Hi Cynthia @juju1, Welcome to Connect. You are not alone with not wishing PMR on anyone. You mentioned being diagnosed Sept 2022 and having pain coming back when you reduce to 6 mg prednisone. Depending on your starting dose, it may be that you are tapering too fast. I started at 20 mg prednisone and the first time it took me 3 and half years to taper off. The last 6 months going back and forth between 1 mg and 1/2 mg until I could finally stop taking prednisone and not have any pain in the morning. There is another discussion you might find helpful.

--- PMR Dosages and Managing Symptoms: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/pmr-dosages/.

Do you keep a daily log with your level of pain when you wake up and the dosage of prednisone for that day?

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@nyxygirl

@slward1951 Your story is just amazing ! Jaw Dropping really - Every recent manuscript I have looked at alludes to this type of nagging issue ( in the PCP or Rhematologist's mind) is that the Dx of PMR is incorrect ! This was one of first papers i looked at and thought the name "familial Mediterranean fever" was very tantalizing !! I also like this Figure 2 because it presents PMR on a SPECTRUM from auto-inflammatory to the (true) autoimmune RDs, with a list of other ailments. There is another reference i have with a Table of PMR- Mimicking-diseases - i can add that later if anyone would like to see .
Floris a, Piga M, Cauli a, et al. Polymyalgia rheumatica: an autoinflammatory
disorder?. RMD Open 2018;4:e000694. doi:10.1136/ rmdopen-2018-000694
What insurance -may I ask ? I posted recently that the financial burden in USA of PMR can be upwards of $20,000.
Thank you for reminding us of the type of diligence to apply to your health!

BTW - for everyone , RITUXAN is a CD20-directed cytolytic antibody ( so against B cells)

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my girl- thanks for your reply. I have excellent medical coverage with Regence ($221. month) and Medicare ($231 a month)with no out of pocket costs. COST OF RITUXAN each infusion $14,394. I get infusions every 6 months.
I am hoping with my newest Dx being Cryoglobulinemia & Rituxan being my hematologists go to that it will keep my type 1 ( multiple myeloma or lymphoma) at bay!!

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@juju1

My name is Cynthia!
How's everyone doing this evening?
I was diagnosed with PMR September 2022.
My personal opinion after phfizer booster May 2022
in late July same year I developed PMR.
This pain and stiffness is something I wouldn't wish on anyway.
Your day to day living is disruptive, sleeping, outings, & etc.
I'm on Prednisone & every time it's reduce to 6mg pain comes back again.
Now my teeth are bothering me. This is new.

How do you all handle this?

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Hello Cynthia! I'm sorry to read that your pain keeps coming back. I only recently was diagnosed with PMR about a month ago. Doctor started me on 20 mg/day for 1 week, then lowered to 15 mg/day for the next week. Pain came back even before I lowered to 15 mg, but I proceeded anyway, only to have the pain worsen to its highest levels (needed help out of bed). Doctor increased me to 20 mg in morning, 10 mg at night about 2 weeks ago, and I've felt almost 100% since then, although the prednisone does seem to wear me out a little. So from my very limited experience, my guess is that maybe your doctor tapered you too soon and/or started you with too low of a dosage. I'd advise your doctor of any flare-ups, so that he/she could determine if you should be restarted at a higher dosage.

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@bfh3

Hello Cynthia! I'm sorry to read that your pain keeps coming back. I only recently was diagnosed with PMR about a month ago. Doctor started me on 20 mg/day for 1 week, then lowered to 15 mg/day for the next week. Pain came back even before I lowered to 15 mg, but I proceeded anyway, only to have the pain worsen to its highest levels (needed help out of bed). Doctor increased me to 20 mg in morning, 10 mg at night about 2 weeks ago, and I've felt almost 100% since then, although the prednisone does seem to wear me out a little. So from my very limited experience, my guess is that maybe your doctor tapered you too soon and/or started you with too low of a dosage. I'd advise your doctor of any flare-ups, so that he/she could determine if you should be restarted at a higher dosage.

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I totally agree with you.
My doctor and I are scheduled for Telehealth visit tomorrow morning.
Thank you

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