Covid and AFib Connection?

Posted by cece55 @cece55, Oct 8, 2021

Hello Everyone,

I am curious and would like to ask this group a question. I have AFib but had not had an event for over a year except for last November. In early February of this year I took the Phizer Vaccine for Covid and had several Afib events with one lasting over a month even with cardioversion. I ended up having an ablation in May and the electrophysiologist found an enlarged and scarred atrium.

I have been doing well and am still on Flecainade, Metoporal and Eliquis. He is about to take the Flecainade away. It is time for my booster shot and I am scared that it will put me into Afib again. My Electrophysiologist and Cardiologist at Mayo said they don't feel that the vaccine had anything to do with my Afib events starting up again.

Has anyone here experienced this? I am debating whether or not to cancel my appointment next week or just take the shot. My doctors said it is better to take the booster than to get Covid.

Thoughts?

Thank You...Blessings to all of you during this trying time. CeCe55

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@tarmansbks

Oh that is no way to live, I am sorry to hear of your food intolerance plus the dread of afib episodes. M.E.

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On a positive note, thanks to Inspire.com (a forum much like this one), I connected with a variety of mastocytosis suffers--cutaneous, MCAS and the very serious systemic form (painful bone marrow biopsy, chance of escalating to leukemia).

One of the people posting on the MCAS forum learned about a helpful enzyme from his MD. Don't recall if the doctor was an allergist, gastroenterologist, homeopath. That enzyme? DAO! It actually breaks down/digests histamines! Antihistamines (histamine blockers) can do only so much when a case is severe.

That DAO enzyme was a game changer for months. Then, just as another mentioned, it ceased being as effective. However, I've had two or three normal days in a row now so I'm glad I didn't give up when I relapsed into "flares." The renewed efficacy of DAO? I'm on an even stricter diet now. Succeeded in adding 2/3 of an organic apple every day. Whoo HOO!

This may seem off topic in terms of A-fib but I can rightfully speculate that a dramatic, ongoing loss of electrolytes may be a major contributing factor to my A-fib.

FWIW (for what it's worth), people with IBS-D or another GI problem that causes diarrhea may want to look into this. Also, if you have a friend, family member, coworker with food allergies, they may want to try DAO enzyme for 60 days. Supposedly that's how long it takes to become effective/to build up in the digestive tract. Me? I enjoyed IMMEDIATE improvement! I've put it on a subscription/ auto-ship!

I. Will. Not. Give. Up!

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@frenchie333

I got the Prizer double jab. Until then, total heart health! Low blood pressure. Physically fit and very active since I was an industrial grunt (blue collar worker) in automotive for over two decades.

Now? A-fib and the attendant blood clots.

If I'd known then what I know now.

Oh, just as serious, my strictly cutaneous mastocytosis has escalated to GI MCAS (mast cell activation syndrome).

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Received 2 covid shots in September and October and wake up in Afib 1st week of November. Heart and lung problems now. Otherwise healthy before.

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@bettyann6

I’m very interested in replies to this because I had my first ever bout with a fib (except immediate post surgery) after my second Pfizer vaccine shot. After the first shot I got very sick with flu-like symptoms and had to go into the hospital two weeks after the second shot. I asked my dr and he said it was possible, but they don’t know because of not enough information or research.

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I agree with your doctor. They just don’t know. But my tachycardia and A fib began after 2nd Moderna and booster

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I am not going to get the second booster due to similar concerns (the possible link between the vaccine and my Afib).

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@nancymulloy

I agree with your doctor. They just don’t know. But my tachycardia and A fib began after 2nd Moderna and booster

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Same here!

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@auntcarol

Received 2 covid shots in September and October and wake up in Afib 1st week of November. Heart and lung problems now. Otherwise healthy before.

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Same

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@frenchie333

On a positive note, thanks to Inspire.com (a forum much like this one), I connected with a variety of mastocytosis suffers--cutaneous, MCAS and the very serious systemic form (painful bone marrow biopsy, chance of escalating to leukemia).

One of the people posting on the MCAS forum learned about a helpful enzyme from his MD. Don't recall if the doctor was an allergist, gastroenterologist, homeopath. That enzyme? DAO! It actually breaks down/digests histamines! Antihistamines (histamine blockers) can do only so much when a case is severe.

That DAO enzyme was a game changer for months. Then, just as another mentioned, it ceased being as effective. However, I've had two or three normal days in a row now so I'm glad I didn't give up when I relapsed into "flares." The renewed efficacy of DAO? I'm on an even stricter diet now. Succeeded in adding 2/3 of an organic apple every day. Whoo HOO!

This may seem off topic in terms of A-fib but I can rightfully speculate that a dramatic, ongoing loss of electrolytes may be a major contributing factor to my A-fib.

FWIW (for what it's worth), people with IBS-D or another GI problem that causes diarrhea may want to look into this. Also, if you have a friend, family member, coworker with food allergies, they may want to try DAO enzyme for 60 days. Supposedly that's how long it takes to become effective/to build up in the digestive tract. Me? I enjoyed IMMEDIATE improvement! I've put it on a subscription/ auto-ship!

I. Will. Not. Give. Up!

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I am going to look into this DAO enzyme - maybe it will help my diarrhea- every morning I cannot get to the washroom fast enough and most days it happens at keast 4-5 times and yet after these awful bouts it disappears for the rest of the day until next morning !

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@oma07

I am going to look into this DAO enzyme - maybe it will help my diarrhea- every morning I cannot get to the washroom fast enough and most days it happens at keast 4-5 times and yet after these awful bouts it disappears for the rest of the day until next morning !

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To the best of my knowledge, DAO cannot hurt, and it just may help. Do buy a two-month supply. Typical dosage is 2 capsules, 3 x per day, i.e., 2 capsules with each meal. If you don't eat three meals a day, still be certain to take a total of 6 capsules each day. If I eat a late-night snack, I take two more for a total of eight.

I am now on Day 4 of normal! I should check my food diary to identify what caused my recent relapse. Oh, forgot to weigh myself this morning after a NORMAL time on the commode. If I remember, I hope to post good news that I'm still at 117 or even up to 118! I was afraid to weigh myself five or six days ago, fearing I'd dropped down to 116.

To put it in perspective, when I was Case #138 ever diagnosed in America with cutaneous mastocytosis, my two biopsies at Vanderbilt University Medical Center showed I was born with 1,000 times the normal number of mast cells. So, with debilitating diarrhea up to nine times a day, I had to use a multi-pronged approach (an H1 Blocker--Claritin, and two H2 Blockers--Tagamet and Famotidine). And you know about my 6 - 8 capsules of DAO enzyme every day. Finally, that very restricted, low-histamine diet.

Bear in mind, until the Pfizer double jab I had ZERO food allergies, ZERO heart problems, ZERO diarrhea. In fact, my strictly cutaneous masto was 100% under control for decades with nothing but OTC Claritin. Tagamet was added when my leukocytes were slightly elevated. It's only out of desperation after the Pfizer double jab/diarrhea/A-fib that I added the Famotidine. I doubled my Claritin, doubled my Tagamet and took a double dose of Famotidine for months. ZERO improvement! None! Until DAO enzyme. I'm now down to one Claritin, one Tagamet and one Famotidine. The latter two are H2 Blockers that also reduce stomach acid; so, next month I will be the human guinea pig again and cease taking the Famotidine. I want normal stomach acid to benefit from my diet and supplements. I've never had acid reflux or GERD.

Wishing you the best!

Oh, very important and more pertinent to this thread. My A-fib is much milder, less frequent after four days of normal! I have also changed the form of magnesium in my supplement tins. I know I am low in magnesium but certainly don't need the forms that are known to have the most laxative effect! I'd have to dig through a huge tub of supplement bottles to find the magnesium I switched to; however, I do have a note in front of me from a fairly recent Internet search. The three least laxative forms of magnesium are: lactate, malate and orotate. You may not be deficient in magnesium; but, if you continue with frequent diarrhea, you know you will suffer a significant loss of many essentials. By all means, I encourage you to confirm, do your own research or consult your MD. Me? I no longer have a doctor--but those are other stories. I must be devoted to self-care!

Please keep me/us updated! Again, I wish you the best on this journey! We're on parallel paths. Let's meet on the mountaintop! Hugs? Hugs, indeed!

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@nancymulloy

I am not going to get the second booster due to similar concerns (the possible link between the vaccine and my Afib).

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I am not going to get any booster! Ever!

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I developed Afib after my booster shot. Never had it before. Coincidence?
As time has gone by (months) Afib seems to be waning.
Not planning on getting another booster.

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