Longtime caregiver looking for support and coping tips

Posted by tim1028 @tim1028, Mar 20, 2022

I've been a member of Mayo Clinic Connect for several years, but this is my first time at this group. Here's my situation: I have been a caregiver for my parents, 4 years for both and 7 years for my mom alone ( she died in December). I also have been a caregiver for my wife for the past two years because of incapacitating Chronic Fatigue Syndrome mixed in with Long Covid symptoms. It has been helpful to see a therapist weekly, but I feel emotionally exhausted and feel like I have little in reserve to give. I work hard to take care of myself as well, but this is easier said than done. My reason for posting here is for support and encouragement from others in the same situation. And,too, perhaps to pick up some useful tools to cope with the difficulties of caregiving.

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@sueinmn

Not Scott, but someone who has had both caregiver stress and stress from my own illness. Oh, I tried the pretending route, and you are so right that it is EXHAUSTING - as much as the work of being the caregiver. I found one friend in whom I could confide. Not who I expected, but a rather new friend who had been through some issues herself. She provided that sympathetic, nonjudgmental ear (and shoulder) I needed in the moment. It allowed me to feel enough relief that I then was comfortable being among others. Her best advice to me was "Don't pretend you are fine, your friends know that you are not. Simply say things are very tough right now, I am really struggling. I NEED this break to feel that there is still something good in life. Can we please talk about _______ or something pleasant. If anyone wants to hear my tale of woe, give me a call later."
Wow! two friends called later to express sympathy, and one became my lifeline.
Can you think of one friend or relative who might be your listening ear?
Sue

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Sue, Thanks for the language you posted
"Simply say things are very tough right now, I am really struggling. I NEED this break to feel that there is still something good in life. Can we please talk about _______ or something pleasant. If anyone wants to hear my tale of woe, give me a call later."
Very helpful. I'll try to remember this.
MTH

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I appreciate all the comments in this thread. I am a caregiver, and I tell other caregivers "take care of yourself" all the time. I'd never thought about how that could come across negatively, so I'll be careful in the future.
As a caregiver, what I have found helpful in taking care of myself is finding LITTLE ways to do it. I step out of the room for a moment, even if just to go to the bathroom. When I can, I take a 15 minute walk outside. Or I use quiet time in the car to replenish my energy -- keep the radio off so I have silence. Any time I can be away from caregiving, even if just for a few minutes, is helpful.
Still, after 2 years of pandemic and not going anywhere, I am getting very antsy to travel somewhere by myself. The logistics are daunting, but I'm hopeful I can get a few days away sometime this summer.
MTH

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I have discovered doctor time. Since both of my charges are in cancer treatments and see doctors that I don’t need to attend. Any time, I don’t need to be there for information, I sit in the car and knit or listen to my favorite music on my phone. I have even taken to bringing along a little snack of dried fruit or “mostly” healthy oatmeal cookies. I had forgotten about this precious time. When my husband was having his transplants at Mayo, the nurses would tell me “ he will be here for a few hours, he is in good hands, go do something you enjoy. What a blessing to remember. Does your charge have appointments you don’t need to attend?

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@naturalebyjas

Scott,

I admire your strength and positive attitude. I’m caregiver to my husband, who was diagnosed with bladder cancer in August 2021. Although it’s been only a few months since the diagnosis, I have been feeling so mentally and physically exhausted and overwhelmed. I’m hesitant to share my feelings with my close friends because I don’t believe anyone else needs this type of negativity. I pretend I’m fine if and when I have a chance to get together with them. But I’m really not okay.
My biggest issue was when he lashes out on me because of his stress and fear of cancer returning, as well as because he suffers from the side effects of treatments. I tried and tried not to take any of these personally, but it is very difficult at times simply because I did not do anything wrong and I have my own feelings too. I do put myself in his own shoes but I still find it hard to absorb at times.
How did you cope and overcome all of the above? I’m at a point where I don’t even want to socialize with my close circle of friends because I don’t want to pretend all is fine with me, yet I really don’t want to let my negative emotions out because I’m afraid my experience will not do them any good.

Thank you for listening.
JW

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Hello @naturalebyjas Sorry for the delay in responding, but our daughter had surgery and I was pulling caregiving duties and playing Mr. FixIt for things she needed to have done, but can't yet.

I, too, as learned to be very guarded with my feelings. I believe this is one of those negative aspects of caregiving that are simply part of the package. In my wife's and my case, my reluctance came from two places, which may or may not apply to anyone else's journey, but I share JIC it can help others or perhaps others can relate.

First, I found many folks, especially close family, were fast to criticize my caregiving decisions, even though they were made based on my wife's express desires. I would bristle when I'd get criticized and then not be told why or what they thought might actually be a better path! I even had one of my wife's siblings tell me I should have let my wife die during her time in a coma.

Second, I also was told, or overheard folks saying I was 'complaining' when they'd ask 'how are you' or 'how are things going' and I'd actually tell them it was tough! I came to learn all most folks want to hear is 'We're fine!" do they can feel better themselves -- without doing anything!

These facets of caregiving were what drew me to Connect and their Caregiving community since it was far more nonjudgmental than those folks around me. Plus the isolation was broken through Connect. My wife's disease caused to her have many emotional and mental issues and this scared away the vast majority of our long-time friends -- manyfor several decades. In the end, my wife had one friend who stuck with her and I had one. Both were geographically remote, but we're very supportive and both never judgemental. In that way were very lucky. During those years I often recalled my father-in-law's old adage "if you can count your friends on one hand, you are truly lucky."

I wish you continued Strength, Courage, & Peace -- and remember superheroes only exist in the comics -- not caregiving!

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@IndianaScott

Hello @naturalebyjas Sorry for the delay in responding, but our daughter had surgery and I was pulling caregiving duties and playing Mr. FixIt for things she needed to have done, but can't yet.

I, too, as learned to be very guarded with my feelings. I believe this is one of those negative aspects of caregiving that are simply part of the package. In my wife's and my case, my reluctance came from two places, which may or may not apply to anyone else's journey, but I share JIC it can help others or perhaps others can relate.

First, I found many folks, especially close family, were fast to criticize my caregiving decisions, even though they were made based on my wife's express desires. I would bristle when I'd get criticized and then not be told why or what they thought might actually be a better path! I even had one of my wife's siblings tell me I should have let my wife die during her time in a coma.

Second, I also was told, or overheard folks saying I was 'complaining' when they'd ask 'how are you' or 'how are things going' and I'd actually tell them it was tough! I came to learn all most folks want to hear is 'We're fine!" do they can feel better themselves -- without doing anything!

These facets of caregiving were what drew me to Connect and their Caregiving community since it was far more nonjudgmental than those folks around me. Plus the isolation was broken through Connect. My wife's disease caused to her have many emotional and mental issues and this scared away the vast majority of our long-time friends -- manyfor several decades. In the end, my wife had one friend who stuck with her and I had one. Both were geographically remote, but we're very supportive and both never judgemental. In that way were very lucky. During those years I often recalled my father-in-law's old adage "if you can count your friends on one hand, you are truly lucky."

I wish you continued Strength, Courage, & Peace -- and remember superheroes only exist in the comics -- not caregiving!

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Scott, thank you for sharing your experiences, I can totally relate to all of them. I’m glad I found Mayo Clinic Connect, where I can seek non judgmental advice from fellow caregivers.

I struggle everyday not only because of challenges in day-to-day caregiving, but also because of the fear of losing him , this fear paralyzes me mentally.

Reading comments from other caregivers somehow gives me a sense of relief, thank you to all!

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@naturalebyjas

Scott, thank you for sharing your experiences, I can totally relate to all of them. I’m glad I found Mayo Clinic Connect, where I can seek non judgmental advice from fellow caregivers.

I struggle everyday not only because of challenges in day-to-day caregiving, but also because of the fear of losing him , this fear paralyzes me mentally.

Reading comments from other caregivers somehow gives me a sense of relief, thank you to all!

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Good morning, @naturalebyjas You are spot on! Caregiving seems to present daily challenges of one kind or another, often without respite. I shared your feelings of not only being challenged by the chores of caregiving but also the constant and terrible thought of losing my wife. I always knew the worst day of caregiving was going to pale versus the days without her.

While I know hints and tips don't work for everyone, but one thing that helped me through these thoughts and fears was to focus on "one day at a time". I had to retrain myself. Having spent my life looking towards, and planning for, the future, I had to learn to just be focused and OK with the day at hand. If I had my wife that day, I had to learn to be happy and not worry about what tomorrow might bring.

Please remember, no caregiver is truly alone! There are millions of us out there who are, have been, or will be caregivers.

How are you doing today?

I wish you continued strength, courage, and peace

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@IndianaScott

Hello @naturalebyjas Sorry for the delay in responding, but our daughter had surgery and I was pulling caregiving duties and playing Mr. FixIt for things she needed to have done, but can't yet.

I, too, as learned to be very guarded with my feelings. I believe this is one of those negative aspects of caregiving that are simply part of the package. In my wife's and my case, my reluctance came from two places, which may or may not apply to anyone else's journey, but I share JIC it can help others or perhaps others can relate.

First, I found many folks, especially close family, were fast to criticize my caregiving decisions, even though they were made based on my wife's express desires. I would bristle when I'd get criticized and then not be told why or what they thought might actually be a better path! I even had one of my wife's siblings tell me I should have let my wife die during her time in a coma.

Second, I also was told, or overheard folks saying I was 'complaining' when they'd ask 'how are you' or 'how are things going' and I'd actually tell them it was tough! I came to learn all most folks want to hear is 'We're fine!" do they can feel better themselves -- without doing anything!

These facets of caregiving were what drew me to Connect and their Caregiving community since it was far more nonjudgmental than those folks around me. Plus the isolation was broken through Connect. My wife's disease caused to her have many emotional and mental issues and this scared away the vast majority of our long-time friends -- manyfor several decades. In the end, my wife had one friend who stuck with her and I had one. Both were geographically remote, but we're very supportive and both never judgemental. In that way were very lucky. During those years I often recalled my father-in-law's old adage "if you can count your friends on one hand, you are truly lucky."

I wish you continued Strength, Courage, & Peace -- and remember superheroes only exist in the comics -- not caregiving!

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Scott I find that those who understand no explanation is necessary and for those who don't no explanation will suffice. Thankfully those in support understand.
I understand.

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Reading this thread has been comforting to me in knowing others are in the same boat. And I have found some useful coping suggestions.

Part of the difficulty in caregiving for me is the changes that occur. Although it's the same in some ways, the varying demands and challenges can result in increased stress: physical, emotional and mental. It's kinda like taking a raft trip on the Colorado river through the Grand Canyon. The water can be smooth and peaceful in one stretch of the river, then change suddenly to turbulence when going thru rapids.

I've thought about the objection to the advice "Remember to take care of yourself" Perhaps a better way to address this would be to ask the person questions about how they are coping, what things they are doing to take care of themselves, rather than hand it out as a dismissive command, no matter how well-intended. Asking the person questions, gives them the opportunity to respond as they wish and personalizes the conversation by showing your genuine interest in their welfare.

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@tim1028

Reading this thread has been comforting to me in knowing others are in the same boat. And I have found some useful coping suggestions.

Part of the difficulty in caregiving for me is the changes that occur. Although it's the same in some ways, the varying demands and challenges can result in increased stress: physical, emotional and mental. It's kinda like taking a raft trip on the Colorado river through the Grand Canyon. The water can be smooth and peaceful in one stretch of the river, then change suddenly to turbulence when going thru rapids.

I've thought about the objection to the advice "Remember to take care of yourself" Perhaps a better way to address this would be to ask the person questions about how they are coping, what things they are doing to take care of themselves, rather than hand it out as a dismissive command, no matter how well-intended. Asking the person questions, gives them the opportunity to respond as they wish and personalizes the conversation by showing your genuine interest in their welfare.

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Good day, @tim1028 Your post, to me, is spot on! So much of 'talking' is listening and this is especially true for caregivers! So often I wished for someone to actually listen to me rather than zone out when I didn't respond with their desired answer of 'fine' when I would be asked 'how are you?'

I suspect many folks are afraid to actually listen to caregivers since they worry they won't know how to answer or be able to help, but for me often the help was just in being able to speak my concern out loud! I also believe this was why I was hardly ever asked how I was (as the caregiver) by the myriad of doctors who cared for my wife over the years.

I also loved your white water rafting allegory. The last rafting trip I took (on the Upper Gauley in West Virginia) I almost drown and had to be rescued along with another of our party. This after years of rafting and countless trips. I can't tell you how many times I felt like I was drowning as a caregiver!

Strength, Courage, & Peace

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@IndianaScott

Good day, @tim1028 Your post, to me, is spot on! So much of 'talking' is listening and this is especially true for caregivers! So often I wished for someone to actually listen to me rather than zone out when I didn't respond with their desired answer of 'fine' when I would be asked 'how are you?'

I suspect many folks are afraid to actually listen to caregivers since they worry they won't know how to answer or be able to help, but for me often the help was just in being able to speak my concern out loud! I also believe this was why I was hardly ever asked how I was (as the caregiver) by the myriad of doctors who cared for my wife over the years.

I also loved your white water rafting allegory. The last rafting trip I took (on the Upper Gauley in West Virginia) I almost drown and had to be rescued along with another of our party. This after years of rafting and countless trips. I can't tell you how many times I felt like I was drowning as a caregiver!

Strength, Courage, & Peace

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Scott--Thanks for your kind and useful comments. I strongly agree that caregivers want to be listened to--attentively not dismissively--and don't expect answers. Often, being listened to is exactly the answer the caregiver most needs.

Holy Mackerel! That picture of the overturning raft in the whitewater illustrates the caregiver's situation exactly.

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