(MAC/MAI) Mycobacterium Avium Complex Pulmonary Disease: Join us

Posted by Katherine, Alumni Mentor @katemn, Nov 21, 2011

I am new to Mayo online .. I was hoping to find others with .. MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) and/or BRONCHIECTASIS. I found only 1 thread on mycobacterium accidently under the catagory "Lungs". I'm hoping by starting a subject matter directly related to MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) I may find others out there!

I was diagnosed by a sputum culture August 2007 (but the culture result was accidentally misfiled until 2008!) with MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) and BRONCHIECTASIS. I am now on 5 antibiotics. Working with Dr. Timothy Aksamit at Rochester Mayo Clinic .. he is a saint to have put up with me this long! I was terrified of the treatment . started the first antibiotic September 3, 2011 ... am now on all 5 antibiotics for 18 mos to 2 years. Am delighted at the very bearable side effects!

I wrote on the 1 thread I found: If you google NON-TUBERCULOUS MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) you will learn a LOT about the disease. But PLEASE do NOT get scared about all the things you read .. that is what I did and nearly refused to do the treatment until after a 2nd Micomacterium was discovered! Educate yourself for "due diligence" .. but take it all with a grain of salt .. you are NOT necessarily going to have all the terrible side effects of the antibiotics! Good luck to you!

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January 2017 Update

One of our great Connect Members .. @Paula_MAC2007  .. had a wonderfully helpful idea that I wanted to share! Her idea .. as you read through the pages to gather information on our shared disease of MAC you can develop a personal "file cabinet" for future reference without the necessity of reading all the pages again!

If you have the "MS Word" program on your computer:
- Document Title Example:  Mayo Clinic Connect MAI/MAC Information
- Then develop different categories that make sense to you such as:  Heath Aids .. Videos .. Healthy Living .. Positive Thinking .. Baseline Testing and Regular Testing .. Antibiotics ..
Tips for
- As you read the pages .. copy/paste/save things of interest into that MS Word document under your preferred categories for future reference.

Then as you want to refer back to something in the future .. YEAH!  You have now created your own personal "file cabinet" on MAC/MAI!  Go to it!

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the MAC & Bronchiectasis Support Group.

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Hi cmi,
We have been studying bacteriophages as a potentially valuable therapeutic agent. Bacteriophages or phages - as they are commonly known - are not new. You can read about their history and current research in the attached papers.
The University of California San Diego's School of Medicine has a Center for Innovative Phage Applications and Therapeutics (https://medschool.ucsd.edu/som/medicine/divisions/idgph/research/center-innovative-phage-applications-and-therapeutics/Pages/default.aspx).
It is worth noting also that there is at least a pharmaceutical corporation (https://www.armatapharma.com/) actively developing products in this field. (I disclose that I don't have any connection with such company).
Regards,
Armando

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Armando...many many thanks. Good homework to plow through...which I will do.
Regina

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I just had my first appt at Mayo clinic in Jacksonville, FL with Dr Margaret Johnson this week. It went very well, and I was impressed with the entire visit. I questioned her on any new treatments on the horizon. She did not think inhaled Nitric Oxide would be an option but did go on to say Phage therapy was promising, and also mentioned Dipeptidyl Peptidase-4 inhibitors (DPPI) as a new treatment possibility for NTM infections and said there were some Phase 3 clinical studies that showed it to be a good possibility as a treatment. A google search could not find any info on DPPI use for NTM or MAC but did have strong possibilities for corona viruses. Hopefully this new info will become available soon.

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So happy for you...if they impressed you...that speaks volumes. I will take this with me on my next visit end of February with ID doc...ask him to look i to it also. We will all continue to collaborate 👍🏻
Regina

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Profile picture for poodledoc @poodledoc

I just had my first appt at Mayo clinic in Jacksonville, FL with Dr Margaret Johnson this week. It went very well, and I was impressed with the entire visit. I questioned her on any new treatments on the horizon. She did not think inhaled Nitric Oxide would be an option but did go on to say Phage therapy was promising, and also mentioned Dipeptidyl Peptidase-4 inhibitors (DPPI) as a new treatment possibility for NTM infections and said there were some Phase 3 clinical studies that showed it to be a good possibility as a treatment. A google search could not find any info on DPPI use for NTM or MAC but did have strong possibilities for corona viruses. Hopefully this new info will become available soon.

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@poodledoc This article might be of interest: "The emerging role of DPP-4 as a therapeutic target in lung disease": https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14728222.2020.1721468

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Profile picture for lorifilipek @lorifilipek

@poodledoc This article might be of interest: "The emerging role of DPP-4 as a therapeutic target in lung disease": https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14728222.2020.1721468

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@lorifilipek Very interesting article. Quite the heavy duty reading! We know that DPP-4 is a bad actor so inhibiting it could certainly be a good thing. I am glad there are some ongoing studies for use against NTM according to Mayo clinic.

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Hi anniepie, that is great that you have managed to get Arikayce into Australia, New Zealand does not have Arikayce since the trial and so it is not funded yet, Do you have to pay for it in Aussie. I would have to pay full price.

You only need 1 or even half a strepfen if you need it (husky voice or sore throat) mostly for the first few weeks and occasionally the first few months after the Arikayce nebulising. Also after nebulising rinse and gargle with water, that helps your throat also. I had Arikayce just before bed so I diddnt have to talk until the morning and strain my throat.

Sorry they interact with your other meds, I hope you can get it sorted out.

Any other Questions do not hesitate to ask.

Take care
Heather

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woops I forgot the @ in front of the anniepie. @anniepie on my post above, please see above for the heathert message to you..sorry about the confusion. Heather

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Profile picture for irene5 Irene Estes @irene5

@anniepie This is Irene - I do not use Strepfen only because I have been unable to get them. I use Riccola ( singing that now), and they have worked for my throat after Arikayce. Good luck to you.

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Thanks Irene.
Hugs, Annie

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Hi anniepie, that is great that you have managed to get Arikayce into Australia, New Zealand does not have Arikayce since the trial and so it is not funded yet, Do you have to pay for it in Aussie. I would have to pay full price.

You only need 1 or even half a strepfen if you need it (husky voice or sore throat) mostly for the first few weeks and occasionally the first few months after the Arikayce nebulising. Also after nebulising rinse and gargle with water, that helps your throat also. I had Arikayce just before bed so I diddnt have to talk until the morning and strain my throat.

Sorry they interact with your other meds, I hope you can get it sorted out.

Any other Questions do not hesitate to ask.

Take care
Heather

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Thanks @heathert -- very much.
Annie x

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Profile picture for heathert @heathert

Hi anniepie, that is great that you have managed to get Arikayce into Australia, New Zealand does not have Arikayce since the trial and so it is not funded yet, Do you have to pay for it in Aussie. I would have to pay full price.

You only need 1 or even half a strepfen if you need it (husky voice or sore throat) mostly for the first few weeks and occasionally the first few months after the Arikayce nebulising. Also after nebulising rinse and gargle with water, that helps your throat also. I had Arikayce just before bed so I diddnt have to talk until the morning and strain my throat.

Sorry they interact with your other meds, I hope you can get it sorted out.

Any other Questions do not hesitate to ask.

Take care
Heather

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Hi Heather @heathert thaks so much -- I do have some other Arikayce questions.

No I'm not able to get Aricayce in Australia -- it hasn't been approved here yet or in many other places either yet. But I've recently been approved to be part of the international Arikayce trial, which is continuing over a longer period of time.

(My lung specialist is a co-author on this international trial's published articles -- Prof Rachel Thomson. They've already published the main efficacy results I think. It seems that this current part of the trial is the broader NTM patient testing phase).

I have to wait for the drug and the inhaler system to arrive here from the USA -- I think it has to be a PARI system

I think you were part of an earlier phase of the trial -- possible the main efficacy testing part.

Question: Did the Arikayce trial people supply you with your PARI e-flow rapid inhaler machine, or did you buy it yourself ? (I'm wondering if the trial people use a slower PARI system than the e-flow rapid). Your rapid system sounds much better to use.

Thanks very much for all your help
Annie x

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Profile picture for anniepie @anniepie

Hi Heather @heathert thaks so much -- I do have some other Arikayce questions.

No I'm not able to get Aricayce in Australia -- it hasn't been approved here yet or in many other places either yet. But I've recently been approved to be part of the international Arikayce trial, which is continuing over a longer period of time.

(My lung specialist is a co-author on this international trial's published articles -- Prof Rachel Thomson. They've already published the main efficacy results I think. It seems that this current part of the trial is the broader NTM patient testing phase).

I have to wait for the drug and the inhaler system to arrive here from the USA -- I think it has to be a PARI system

I think you were part of an earlier phase of the trial -- possible the main efficacy testing part.

Question: Did the Arikayce trial people supply you with your PARI e-flow rapid inhaler machine, or did you buy it yourself ? (I'm wondering if the trial people use a slower PARI system than the e-flow rapid). Your rapid system sounds much better to use.

Thanks very much for all your help
Annie x

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@anniepie This is Irene. I am part of the Arikayce clinical trial in the US . I started on June 8, 2020. The Panther Pharmaceutical Company supplies everything. Yes, it is a Pari e flow. You are also provided with a virtual nurse for an intensive lesson/training. There is no cost to you except for buying distilled water for sterilization. The Arikayce support is genuine and will answer any and all questions that may arise. Every month when my Medicare print out arrives, and I see almost $11,000, I am grateful to be in this trial. Good luck to you. @irene5

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