Benzodiazepines

Posted by sears @sears, Sep 17, 2020

Does anyone know the CDC’s stance on benzodiazepines? For instance what they say about doctors refusing to refill prescriptions, tapering, doctors responsibilities to patients they have kept in Benzos long term?

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@sears, Here's what the CDC says...

"Jan 17, 2020 - Data from the. National Institute on Drug Abuse show that 11,537 overdose deaths involving benzodiazepines occurred in 2017. Approximately ..." from Physician Office Visits at Which Benzodiazepines Were Prescribed: Findings From 2014–2016 National Ambulatory Medical Care Survey: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr137-508.pdf

"Avoid concurrent opioid and benzodiazepine prescribing. Clinicians should avoid prescribing opioid pain medication and benzodiazepines concurrently ..."
Implementing the CDC Guideline for Prescribing Opioids for Chronic Pain: https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/pdf/prescribing/CDC-DUIP-QualityImprovementAndCareCoordination-508.pdf

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@johnbishop
Good morning well actually it’s not but hopefully it is for you,
How many of those 11,000+ deaths were due to patients abusing their medication? When doctors order medications the patient has a responsibility do know about that medication and if they choose to abuse it there may be severe consequences including death. I was taking the opioid fentanyl as well as the benzodiazepines Klonopin for seizures however I took my medication exactly as prescribed and had no issues. If people choose to take medication blindly that’s certainly their choice but they’re going to half to accept the responsibility of doing so. Clearly doctors aren’t perfect but people often use them as a scapegoat which personally I don’t believe is fair.
Jake

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@johnbishop
Good morning well actually it’s not but hopefully it is for you,
How many of those 11,000+ deaths were due to patients abusing their medication? When doctors order medications the patient has a responsibility do know about that medication and if they choose to abuse it there may be severe consequences including death. I was taking the opioid fentanyl as well as the benzodiazepines Klonopin for seizures however I took my medication exactly as prescribed and had no issues. If people choose to take medication blindly that’s certainly their choice but they’re going to half to accept the responsibility of doing so. Clearly doctors aren’t perfect but people often use them as a scapegoat which personally I don’t believe is fair.
Jake

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@jakedduck1 Good afternoon here in Southern Minnesota. I agree the doctors are trying to help but sometimes get blamed for patient actions beyond their control. Pain can cause people to make the wrong decision and cause themselves harm by not following directions for the medication.

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Thanks for the replies but I wasn’t referring to mixing Benzos with opioids.

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Back in 2018, I diagnosed with what doctors thought was CDiff and they put me on vancomycin and Reglan. I had a very bad reaction to the Reglan and suddenly started having anxiety. It came out of nowhere. I had been on Effexor for 16 years when that happened and it had been working fine for 16 years and never had any anxiety or depression. When the anxiety started the doctors didn’t know what was causing it so they took me off of the Effexor cold turkey. I basically went into psychosis. I was in and out of hospitals for months and months and months with them trying to help me and they finally put me on Klonopin. That was in 2019. By early 2021 I had already reached tolerance and decided I would start tapering off of the benzo. I did that for nine months and it kept getting worse and worse and someone suggested that I try brain restoration NAD. I did that for 10 days and they switched me over to Valium to complete my taper. It didn’t help. I honestly don’t think I can do this for another nine months to a year every day. I wake up wanting to just die from the symptoms. I don’t have anxiety in my brain, I just have all these physical symptoms. Today I finally had a complete meltdown and told my family that I couldn’t do this anymore. I used to be a very successful business woman in Atlanta and traveled the world and did mission trips to Third World countries and now I’m curled up on the sofa wishing I could just fall asleep and never wake up. I know if I go into a rehab program they are just going to do a fast taper and then I will be left dealing with withdrawal symptoms. Someone please give me a recommendation. I can’t live like this anymore.

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Back in 2018, I diagnosed with what doctors thought was CDiff and they put me on vancomycin and Reglan. I had a very bad reaction to the Reglan and suddenly started having anxiety. It came out of nowhere. I had been on Effexor for 16 years when that happened and it had been working fine for 16 years and never had any anxiety or depression. When the anxiety started the doctors didn’t know what was causing it so they took me off of the Effexor cold turkey. I basically went into psychosis. I was in and out of hospitals for months and months and months with them trying to help me and they finally put me on Klonopin. That was in 2019. By early 2021 I had already reached tolerance and decided I would start tapering off of the benzo. I did that for nine months and it kept getting worse and worse and someone suggested that I try brain restoration NAD. I did that for 10 days and they switched me over to Valium to complete my taper. It didn’t help. I honestly don’t think I can do this for another nine months to a year every day. I wake up wanting to just die from the symptoms. I don’t have anxiety in my brain, I just have all these physical symptoms. Today I finally had a complete meltdown and told my family that I couldn’t do this anymore. I used to be a very successful business woman in Atlanta and traveled the world and did mission trips to Third World countries and now I’m curled up on the sofa wishing I could just fall asleep and never wake up. I know if I go into a rehab program they are just going to do a fast taper and then I will be left dealing with withdrawal symptoms. Someone please give me a recommendation. I can’t live like this anymore.

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Let me also mention the the benzos are now making me feel like I’ve had 50 cups of coffee. There’s ZERO sedative effect.

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Profile picture for wmbcat @wmbcat

Back in 2018, I diagnosed with what doctors thought was CDiff and they put me on vancomycin and Reglan. I had a very bad reaction to the Reglan and suddenly started having anxiety. It came out of nowhere. I had been on Effexor for 16 years when that happened and it had been working fine for 16 years and never had any anxiety or depression. When the anxiety started the doctors didn’t know what was causing it so they took me off of the Effexor cold turkey. I basically went into psychosis. I was in and out of hospitals for months and months and months with them trying to help me and they finally put me on Klonopin. That was in 2019. By early 2021 I had already reached tolerance and decided I would start tapering off of the benzo. I did that for nine months and it kept getting worse and worse and someone suggested that I try brain restoration NAD. I did that for 10 days and they switched me over to Valium to complete my taper. It didn’t help. I honestly don’t think I can do this for another nine months to a year every day. I wake up wanting to just die from the symptoms. I don’t have anxiety in my brain, I just have all these physical symptoms. Today I finally had a complete meltdown and told my family that I couldn’t do this anymore. I used to be a very successful business woman in Atlanta and traveled the world and did mission trips to Third World countries and now I’m curled up on the sofa wishing I could just fall asleep and never wake up. I know if I go into a rehab program they are just going to do a fast taper and then I will be left dealing with withdrawal symptoms. Someone please give me a recommendation. I can’t live like this anymore.

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I am so sorry. I have no suggestions but one. Find a new & much better physician/psychiatrist. No one should suffer like you are.

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Profile picture for wmbcat @wmbcat

Back in 2018, I diagnosed with what doctors thought was CDiff and they put me on vancomycin and Reglan. I had a very bad reaction to the Reglan and suddenly started having anxiety. It came out of nowhere. I had been on Effexor for 16 years when that happened and it had been working fine for 16 years and never had any anxiety or depression. When the anxiety started the doctors didn’t know what was causing it so they took me off of the Effexor cold turkey. I basically went into psychosis. I was in and out of hospitals for months and months and months with them trying to help me and they finally put me on Klonopin. That was in 2019. By early 2021 I had already reached tolerance and decided I would start tapering off of the benzo. I did that for nine months and it kept getting worse and worse and someone suggested that I try brain restoration NAD. I did that for 10 days and they switched me over to Valium to complete my taper. It didn’t help. I honestly don’t think I can do this for another nine months to a year every day. I wake up wanting to just die from the symptoms. I don’t have anxiety in my brain, I just have all these physical symptoms. Today I finally had a complete meltdown and told my family that I couldn’t do this anymore. I used to be a very successful business woman in Atlanta and traveled the world and did mission trips to Third World countries and now I’m curled up on the sofa wishing I could just fall asleep and never wake up. I know if I go into a rehab program they are just going to do a fast taper and then I will be left dealing with withdrawal symptoms. Someone please give me a recommendation. I can’t live like this anymore.

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I would say it was the Effexor rather than the benzo. You were on Effexor a very long time. Stopping Effexor abruptly can cause withdrawal symptoms for a very long time. There is a whole group here on Connect that deals with Effexor and the damage it does. I suggest you find this group and start reading. Can a moderator direct this poor woman to the Effexor site?

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I would say it was the Effexor rather than the benzo. You were on Effexor a very long time. Stopping Effexor abruptly can cause withdrawal symptoms for a very long time. There is a whole group here on Connect that deals with Effexor and the damage it does. I suggest you find this group and start reading. Can a moderator direct this poor woman to the Effexor site?

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I’ve been off of the effexor 3 years now. I’ve been in discussions with my family for the past three hours and we’ve got no plan. I left my doctor a desperate message this morning and he never called back. Now I’m back in bed honestly wondering if I can just disappear somewhere in the night and never come back. I have such a loving family and this sickness is going to destroy everyone and everything. If I go away then it all stops.

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I’ve been off of the effexor 3 years now. I’ve been in discussions with my family for the past three hours and we’ve got no plan. I left my doctor a desperate message this morning and he never called back. Now I’m back in bed honestly wondering if I can just disappear somewhere in the night and never come back. I have such a loving family and this sickness is going to destroy everyone and everything. If I go away then it all stops.

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Hi @wmbcat
Here is the link to the Effexor discussion group that @sears mentioned.
- Tips on minimizing withdrawal symptoms from Effexor (aka Venlafaxine) https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/tips-on-minimising-withdrawal-symptoms-from-effexor-aka-venlafaxine/

It sounds like you need caring guidance from a physician or psychiatrist. I hope your current doctor can provide that for you since I know how hard it would be to find a new doctor under the circumstances. You need a plan.

Forgive if you explained this in your first post. I just want to be clear. Are you on any anti-depressant or anti-anxiety medication right now?

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