Living with Prostate Cancer: Meet others & introduce yourself

Welcome to the Prostate Cancer group on Mayo Clinic Connect.
This is a welcoming, safe place where you can meet others living with prostate cancer or caring for someone with prostate cancer. Let's learn from each other and share stories about living well with cancer, coping with the challenges and offering tips.

I'm Colleen, and I'm the moderator of this group, and Community Director of Connect. Chances are you'll to be greeted by fellow members and volunteer patient Mentors, when you post to this group. Learn more about Moderators and Mentors on Connect.

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Let's start with introductions. When were you diagnosed with prostate cancer? What treatments did you have? Tips to share?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Prostate Cancer Support Group.

@ch665296f

I'm 74 years old, and had a prostatectomy combined with the removal of a large diverticula over 4 years ago. I also had green light laser surgery around 10 years ago. I have experienced some incontinence prior to these procedures, and still do. Due to a recent back surgery, and heart failure I refuse to have any more invasive bladder related surgeries. I manage by wearing diapers. I'm wondering if anyone else operates as I do? Is this the wrong approach?

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Best wishes. I had a prostatectomy and radiation about 20 years ago. Incontinence has been with me since. A few years back my urologist implanted an artificial urinary sphincter which helped my urinary incontinence a lot. I just wear pads for the occasional accident. I’m not bothered by fecal incontinence. The surgery was in and out. Not too bad. A few weeks later I was good to go. Pun intended. Good luck.

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@waynen

Some people on this thread have asked questions about biopsys. This recent study might help in looking at the traditional 12 sample transrectal biopsy done by many urologists and the mMRI Targeted biopsys. It's clear from the research that, if you can get it, the mMRI is a better choice.

The authors of this multicenter, randomized, noninferiority trial compared magnetic resonance imaging (MRI)–targeted biopsy with the standard systematic 12-core transrectal ultrasonography (TRUS) biopsy procedure in men with clinical suspicion of prostate cancer. MRI-targeted biopsy in men with a PI-RADS score ≥3 was noninferior to standard TRUS biopsy, with the detection of clinically significant prostate cancer in 35% of patients undergoing MRI-targeted biopsy versus 30% with the TRUS biopsy. In addition, 37% of patients in the MRI-targeted group were able to avoid prostate biopsy due to low PI-RADS score.

These results indicate that MRI-targeted biopsy procedures may allow for fewer prostate biopsy procedures with similar rates of detection in men with clinical suspicion of prostate cancer.
– Emily Miller, MD

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Can you possibly post results of further studies into the pros and cons of each procedure. I am about to have transrectal 18 needle biopsy as the preference of my urologist. This even though I suggested MRI and targeted biopsy if anything suspicious was noted. PSA 8 now. Two years ago had MRI that scored 2 out of the 5 point rating for likelihood of cancer (ignorant of this except 1 is best for no cancer). At that time PSA was 6. Mine has always run high at 5+. Age 74

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Dear Ratchett, here are some references that you might want to check out. The first is more information on the study that I quoted in my post.
https://www.practiceupdate.com/content/systematic-trus-biopsy-vs-mmri-targeted-biopsy-for-biopsy-naive-men-at-risk-for-prostate-cancer/113309/62
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31897680/
https://www.practiceupdate.com/content/eau-2018-mri-of-the-prostate-reveals-more-clinically-significant-cancers-and-reduces-overdiagnosisnbspversus-standard-biopsy/65548/62
This study has some caveats on it's use but it's a little old. https://www.practiceupdate.com/content/comparison-of-mri-guided-prostate-biopsy-and-transrectal-ultrasound-guided-prostate-biopsy/11996/62

Here's a study comparing 2 different types of ultrasounds with TRUS.
https://www.practiceupdate.com/content/aua-2019-novel-high-resolution-ultrasound-better-than-conventional-ultrasound-for-prostate-cancer-detection/83324/62
I hope that helps.

I have a friend who had the MRI targeted biopsy and he said it took longer then the TRUS because they were very careful to get the samples from exactly the right spots. He was diagnosed with a Gleason score of 4+4.

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Hello: This is my first post. New diagnosis of prostate cancer 09/07/2021. gleason 8 on first pathology MRI report...upgraded to gleason 9 when evaluated by a second pathology report. Apparently high risk. Am trying to get pencil beam proton therapy ASAP. Checked with one well known center and there is a 6 month wait list...am in process of contacting two other proton providers to see when they could begin treatments for me. Bone scan was good. Hoping that it doesn't spread before I can begin treatments...there is extra cellular extension.
Any comments appreciated...

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@bowmed

Hello: This is my first post. New diagnosis of prostate cancer 09/07/2021. gleason 8 on first pathology MRI report...upgraded to gleason 9 when evaluated by a second pathology report. Apparently high risk. Am trying to get pencil beam proton therapy ASAP. Checked with one well known center and there is a 6 month wait list...am in process of contacting two other proton providers to see when they could begin treatments for me. Bone scan was good. Hoping that it doesn't spread before I can begin treatments...there is extra cellular extension.
Any comments appreciated...

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Hello @bowmed and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. I can understand with your gleason score why a 6-month wait list doesn't seem fitting and think it is great that you are reaching out to other centers that may be able to provide you care sooner.

That said, in the event you'd like to add another to your list to explore, I have added information on Mayo Clinic's proton beam program.

- Proton Beam Therapy Program:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/departments-centers/proton-beam-therapy-program/home/orc-20185488
Where have you tried to date? Perhaps other members can offer some suggestions as well.

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@bowmed

Hello: This is my first post. New diagnosis of prostate cancer 09/07/2021. gleason 8 on first pathology MRI report...upgraded to gleason 9 when evaluated by a second pathology report. Apparently high risk. Am trying to get pencil beam proton therapy ASAP. Checked with one well known center and there is a 6 month wait list...am in process of contacting two other proton providers to see when they could begin treatments for me. Bone scan was good. Hoping that it doesn't spread before I can begin treatments...there is extra cellular extension.
Any comments appreciated...

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Hi Bowmed, I can see your concern. A Gleason of 9 is serious. With the radiation treatment have they suggested Antigen Deprivation Therapy to slow the progress of the cancer and to shrink the prostrate? It takes 2 months after the ADT shot to start radiation. Three years ago when I was diagnosed with a Gleason score of 8, I was able to get into the Phoenix Mayo Clinic a week after they checked my diagnosis and started radiation 2 months later. Don't know if they are backed up now.

I believe that they also have Volumetric Modulated arc Radiation treatment. It's a photon radiation therapy but causes less damage then IRMT. My radiation oncologist at Mayo recommended it to a friend of mine with a Gleason score of 8.

Hope you are able to find a place to get in earlier. I am glad I got the proton beam therapy. There were a few bumps along the way but the results were good.

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Hello Bowmed,

I was diagnosed with a PSA of 7.9 and a Gleason of 4+3=7. I contacted the Mayo Clinic in Phoenix in July of this year, had a consultation with a radiation oncologist, had a bone scan (clear), minor surgery for Space OAR and prostate markers, and just started Pencil Beam Proton Therapy last week. I’ve had 2 sessions thus far of the Proton Therapy and will have my 3rd today. A total of 28 sessions have been scheduled out for me. I did a ton of research regarding how to proceed with treating my cancer and feel, so far, that I made a good choice. The daily Proton treatments are a piece of cake. The stress of getting to the point of starting treatment, on the other hand for me was quite unnerving. So, I would encourage you to keep trying to see if you can go the Proton route. Best of luck and hang in there….

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@kansascityhusker

Hello Bowmed,

I was diagnosed with a PSA of 7.9 and a Gleason of 4+3=7. I contacted the Mayo Clinic in Phoenix in July of this year, had a consultation with a radiation oncologist, had a bone scan (clear), minor surgery for Space OAR and prostate markers, and just started Pencil Beam Proton Therapy last week. I’ve had 2 sessions thus far of the Proton Therapy and will have my 3rd today. A total of 28 sessions have been scheduled out for me. I did a ton of research regarding how to proceed with treating my cancer and feel, so far, that I made a good choice. The daily Proton treatments are a piece of cake. The stress of getting to the point of starting treatment, on the other hand for me was quite unnerving. So, I would encourage you to keep trying to see if you can go the Proton route. Best of luck and hang in there….

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Hello kansascityhusker:
I am in contact with Mayo/ Phoenix and am sending chart notes for consideration. also in contact with California Proton in San Diego...So, you started in JULY and just had your first treatment LAST Week. Are you having ADT as well? Did you have to wait 2 months after ADT shot?

Thanks!
Bowmed

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@bowmed

Hello kansascityhusker:
I am in contact with Mayo/ Phoenix and am sending chart notes for consideration. also in contact with California Proton in San Diego...So, you started in JULY and just had your first treatment LAST Week. Are you having ADT as well? Did you have to wait 2 months after ADT shot?

Thanks!
Bowmed

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Hi Bowmed,

I opted to NOT do ADT. In speaking to Mayo, I was offered the opportunity, given my cancer being rated intermediate risk, to join a clinical trial at Mayo where they were studying outcomes of Proton with ADT vs Proton without ADT. This clinical study has been in process for several years and I am told is just now wrapping up. The “preliminary” results show that there is basically no difference in outcomes for those that took the Proton with ADT vs those that did Proton without ADT. So, I opted to not do ADT. In terms of the time element for starting the Proton sessions, they were delayed at my request as I was vacationing in Colorado. My urologist had told me that given my cancer status being evaluated as intermediate risk, that there was no need to start treatment immediately.

Hope the above is helpful….

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@amandajro

Hello @bowmed and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. I can understand with your gleason score why a 6-month wait list doesn't seem fitting and think it is great that you are reaching out to other centers that may be able to provide you care sooner.

That said, in the event you'd like to add another to your list to explore, I have added information on Mayo Clinic's proton beam program.

- Proton Beam Therapy Program:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/departments-centers/proton-beam-therapy-program/home/orc-20185488
Where have you tried to date? Perhaps other members can offer some suggestions as well.

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Hello Amanda:
MD Anderson advised me to get ADT ASAP but i have been unable to get an appointment with stanford until 10/12/21...trying to see if a local urologist will provide the ADT shot...might have to take a flight to houston just for the shot...i am also in contact with mayo phoenix...
i was told mayo jacksonville does NOT have proton therapy by a contact from phoenix but they sent me a package yesterday fed-ex!
am also in contact with california proton in san diego...got too much moving too slowl...

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